This may belong back in the Technical forum, but I felt I would have a larger audience here. Mods, feel free to move it if you wish.


So I have a Copper John Dead Nuts 2 Comp, and, well I have an issue. It seems that in our attempt to remove a pin (does anyone here know HOW to do this btw), that Rob and I stripped the threaded collars that go around the individual pins. We noticed that after we put it pack together (we had to take it apart to see how to remove the pins, but we ended up just cutting one of the pins, lol), that my micro adjust for the individual pins would not work. Spinning the knob just caused the entire threaded assembly to spin, but the pins didn't move. So I looked closer tonight, and looked at the pin we removed, and saw that the collar threads are obviously stripped, and thus the threaded rod is just spinning around on its on without moving the pins. My question to you, and I suppose I will call them tomorrow, is would I be better off with:

A. Keeping the sight as is and forget the micro-adjust (I can somewhat move the pins up the rod by hand)

B. Send the housing back and see if CJ and repair it

C. Replace the entire sight

I do like the sight, but it has its downfalls. I don't like the fact that you have to loosen set screws to micro-adjust (both gang, and individual pins are like this). I like the pin size, brightness, and overall sight construction, but I doubt I would want to go with option A and live without microadjust (heck, that was a major attraction of the sight to me in the first place). So, off the top of your head, does anyone know IF CJ will even take this as a repair, and if they do, would it be too costly in the end to warrant the fix or what? Kind of bummed, because I really don't know if I want to sink more money into a new sight if I don't have to.

Matt, forgot to ask you where and when you bought the sight when we spoke earlier.

Bought it off a guy on AT back in May/June sometime.

If it were me, I would do both b and c but not b until c. I would want to send it back. (Call first to see if its in the cards.) BUT, I wouldn't want to not be able to shoot, so I would replace it and then send it back. I plan to own more bows and more bows mean more sights so ya might have two for now but, think about when you get that new one in a year or two and you can put the repaired CJ on the Ross and the replacement on the new one. (bowtech)

Matt, I really like the sight, it's a shame it didn't work like it was suppose too. Thursday when Ben was up to cut some arrows and shoot he showed me how they micro adjusted, I was impressed. Yours didn't do it like his from the get go.

For now, since you can adjust them like the rest of us...LOL It's a good sight and once sighted in, how often do you need to move them. I love microajustable sights via windage and elevation but never had one that micro'd the pins. I can see the handiness but necessarily the need.

But I don't want to adjust them like the rest of you guys, lol jk. Actually Ben has the supreme and I have the Comp, but you're right, they are the same adjustments (mine just has the dovetail bar, and micro-adjust 3rd axis even though I know we couldn't find it, but I double checked the specs tonight, and it does).

My micro-adjust doesn't work for my elevation either. Windage, I'm not sure. The screws are all kinds of pi**ing me off[:@]



I'm planning to call them tomorrow and see what can be done if any, and whether or not it's worthwhile I suppose. I see the logic in keeping it around as a spare, but I'm a I can be a tightwad sometimes, even on my hobbies.

In order.

1. Punch Rob in the back of the neck for screwing up your sight
2. Run and hope you paralyzed him
3. Contact Copper John and tell them honestly and nicely that Rob screwed it up

I hadstripped a pin out as well on mine and sent it in for service. PM if you want details on the process.

Just buy a new one and send the bill to ROB!!!

It's necessary to take it apart to remove the pins as the threaded rods go through the pins, they must be removed. We didn't cut a pin, we had to cut the fiber after we took the threaded rods out.

The pins didn't microadjust from the get go, we/ or I did (I think) snap the rod inside the adjustment head as it had to come out to readjust the sight lower. What we did, we had to do or he could have never used the sight to begin with as he ran out of elevation adjustments. We got him shooting perfect farther out than he had previous. The sight, threads etc is of poor design IMHO. I like the sight, the microadjustability but the lack or ease to remove or add pins.

If Matt feels I broke the sight, I'll be more than happy to replace it. That goes without question.