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http://www.elitearchery.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2794

This guy(mike) well super tune your bow for you. I am thinking on sending my GTO to them.

Anybody here try it yet?

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From what I hear he is one of the best in the nation at tuning bows. I actually think it is a requirement to send your bow to him over on AT, seems like EVERYbody there has a crackerized bow.

If you do it, be prepared to shell out some major dough for a tuning job, and the waiting list is around a year long last timeI checked. Wouldn't be that bad because you keep the bow until he is ready to work on it, but it would probably be next summer before he would crackerize your GTO.

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I READ ABOUT HIM ALSO IN THE PAST. PEOPLE SEEM TO LOVE HIS WORK. I HAVE SEEN A FEW BOWS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST ON THE NET. I THINK HE HAS HIS OWN WEB PAGE. I FIGURE THE COST COULD BE HIGH THOUGH.

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They go bananas over on AT for him.......

I thought about it for a split second and decided, I better learn how to tune my own bow.

So here I am.....tuning my own bows.

It will set ya back about $90 (I think that is with a set of strings), but the guy does know what he is doing.

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I didn't have mine Crackerized, I had it MacRotechized.But the thing I find a little wrong with long distance tuning of a bow, it's set up for him.(I've watchedLen tune I don't know how many bows and do nothing but tear bulletholes and split X's. When the real owner puts his hands on the bow to shoot it that's a whole different thing. Different release, hand pressure, torgue... everything. Len has them shoot, points out form flaws and they become amazed at what a little hand adjustment does to their shooting.The final fine tuning has to be done with the owner. Yes he can get it to a starting point and make sure everything is plum, level, in tune if you will. The final tweeking still has to be done with the bow in my hand.

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If you look at it as getting your bow "tuned" yes it is expensive. It cost around $100. When you consider that you are getting custom strings, tune, and your bow will come back faster than what you sent it (not sure how he does that) it becomes a more attractive proposition.

Davidmil brings up a good point about the tuning with bow in hand, but that is more form coaching. All the same it is critical for getting a consistent shot. The best tune in the world won't help you you aren't consistent.

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In the end the bow is only going to shoot as well as the person shooting it. If he can make it faster then that may appeal to some folks but if speed isn't a big deal then that option loses its appeal. It makes a lot more sense to me to tune your own bow and tune your own arrow and tune them both together. I would be willing to bet that a crackerized bow and abow and arrow I setup for myself would shoot the same (except maybe speedwise). Both bow setups would be limited to my abilities as a shooter. I am not a target shooter and there may be a difference there but for hunting...........


I have read a great deal of threads here, many by long time bowhunters, that talk about not knowing if their arrow is spined correctly, weighs enough/too much, or why their broadheads don't hit like field points and so on. IMO a hunter should know how to setup, adjust and take care of his/her chosen weapons.

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I was going to order a set of strings from him a few years ago (2005), then decided what the heck I will just send my bow into him. Turn around was decent, maybe 3 weeks total.

But, I honestly wasn't all that impressed....The serving on one of my cables let loose on the loop end after a couple months, that could have been a nasty accident..... I bought a new set of strings else where to replace them and never looked back.

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I always prefer to tune my own bow, and I do it after 3 or 4 beers. That way, if the arrow is a little wobbly, I can't tell anyway;)

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The term "Crackerized" doesn't come across as one that demands a whole lot of respect.... JMO:D I like to tune my bows... sometimes. I think I'd save the cash Germ. Just "Germerize" it.

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Getting "crackerized" is a big status symbol to most. The guy is excelent at tuning bows, but if a guy knows what he is doing, and has the equipment to do the tuning, they can do it as good as him!!!!

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I think the term would be "germinate" but that may require spooning ;).

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It's a shame some of these new bows cost so much money and you can pick them up at the shops and see that the strings and cables have not been tweeked to specs from the factory.

Bring that bad boy by my place Germ, andI will put a Detroit Honky tune on that Bad Mo Hammer Jammer!

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How much fora Detroit Honky Tune Special Deluxe?

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Sliver sounds good:D

I have never had a bowtuned by anybody but me.
Buckeye thanks for the info, that is all I need to hear from you.

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You tune your bow with your butt?

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Well you know:D

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LOL that must be how you "germinate" it ;):D

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I read all the stuff about him, but I just can't see his tweaking out the performance from a bow making the least bit difference in whether or not a critter I shoot at ends up dead.

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Rybo Crackers has a little secret to his tuning of bows. Honestly He doesn't do anything real special to your bow to get the speed. All I will say about his secret is. LESS STRANDS

Honestly Germ save your bucks

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He does amazing work, but be prepared to wait a long time! He has a waiting list you have to get on on Archery Talk.

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That's what I was afraid his secret was.

Crackers is very talented when it comes to working with bows. He took Bowtech parts from several bows and put them together to come up with a bow that had a very nice brace, good speed, and great shootability. I think he called it the Declaration or something like that.

With the tuning though you may be better off doing it yourself. I know any time I have anything done to my bow at the shop the first thing I do is get it home and re-tune it because nobody knows it better than me.

Besides, the value of the newstrings isn't that great considering the GTO comes with a quality string stock.

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I don't think anyone but the person shooting the bow can properly tune it. I mean, he can do some tricks and work some magic to enhance performance, but the shooter ultimately has to tune the bow. The difference in grip alone would cause differences, and ......you're a leftie. He's not. ;)

And if the secret is fewer strands........ummm, that I would be skeptical of. Apparently it works, but at what cost? String durability? I don't know, just thinking outloud.

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Whats it cost to get a bow "mobowed"?

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LMAO....well, it would be pretty inexpensive actually. There would be no guarantee on the work, and hell.........I can't even promise it'll be shootable when you get it back.....:eek:

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Being my bows are cursed and yours are magic now, can we rub bows at the meet[:-]

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Please see my new avatar, then edit your post as necessary.

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...And by bows you mean...

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Bows you pervert, geeshish:D

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Don Take a look at the strings between the Drenalin and the new Drenalin LD. Thats how they were able to keep the same speed between those 2 bows. They just took out a few stands from the string and presto you have the same speed on a longer ATA bow and higher brace height. We have checked this at the shop I work. Actually sat down and counted them. and If memory serves me right the LD was about 2 strands less or so

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So now if some one comes up with a lame brained idea, can we use the phrase "he's a few strands shy of astandard string" :D;)

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LMAO!!! That is a great line. I will have to use that sometime.:D

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Why do I see that being used on some of Quik's ideas?

J/K Frannie.;)

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I have personally read hundreds of feedbacks on work he has done for numerous customers and guess what?I have NEVER heard a bad thing from anyone who actually had Crackers work on their bow.

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Cracker's tunes a bow. He does what some bow owners are not capeable of or want to do. Think about this for a second.ALL cams have a sweet spot in their rotation. It may not be at the spot the factory set it at.But they won't tell you that or even HOW to find it. How many of you have bought a new bow and not been able to get the BC speed? Mike "Crackers"Carter takes the time to find the sweet spot in the cam,optimal ATA and BH, etc.And may change a spec or two along the way.

And for the record ,he DOES NOT USE LESS STRANDs in his strings unless the warranty allows for it. He may build a set Not to factory spec. , but it's the length he maychange depending on the tune (cam rotation).

I've never had Cracker's tune my bows, but if you listen , you can pick up on his tricks.

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No doubt, he is great at what he does and provides a good servicefor those thatrequire such.

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Don't be so sure. There are several unhappy owners with their strings on their GTO. Just check out the Elite forums.

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Does Crackers tune(Crackerized) other brands of Bows or just the GTO's?

All this talk has me wanting to buy a Elite GTO or see about having him tune the Bow I have!

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He has tuned a lot of bowtechs also.

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Why?? Because they NEED it.....