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Germ 02-05-2008 06:26 PM
Hostage Pro Rest
 
Anybody shoot one yet? How noise is it?

TEmbry 02-05-2008 06:30 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
I wish, im going to switch to one this year i think.

Ill let you know wheni get my hands on one.

BowTech_Shooter 02-05-2008 06:33 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

Anybody shoot one yet? How noise is it?
They're tentatively set to start shipping around March 1st.

Germ 02-05-2008 06:39 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Thank you, any reports?

BTW it's all Rick James fault he has me mental about Drop-Away rest and the cord attached to the cable[&:]

WesternMdHardwoods 02-05-2008 06:40 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

Thank you, any reports?

BTW it's all Rick James fault he has me mental about Drop-Away rest and the cord attached to the cable[&:]



Please Explain??????

MN/Kyle 02-05-2008 06:41 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

Thank you, any reports?

BTW it's all Rick James fault he has me mental about Drop-Away rest and the cord attached to the cable[&:]
Limbdriver!

Alex Burns 02-05-2008 06:50 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Please Explain??????
Unless meticulous care is taken, installing a fallaway with a cord that needs to be attached to the down cable can change the cam timing and effect nock travel.

Greg / MO 02-05-2008 06:54 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Anybody shoot one yet?
I'd rather shoot my bag target.

How noise is it?
I didn't hear a peep out ofa single onelying on the tables in our booth at the ATA show.

Germ 02-05-2008 06:58 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Anybody shoot one yet?
I'd rather shoot my bag target.

How noise is it?
I didn't hear a peep out ofa single onelying on the tables in our booth at the ATA show.
Greg thank you that is what I wanted to know. Are they making them LH?

Your first remark was good:D

MN/Kyle 02-05-2008 06:59 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Anybody shoot one yet?
I'd rather shoot my bag target.

How noise is it?
I didn't hear a peep out ofa single onelying on the tables in our booth at the ATA show.


Germ 02-05-2008 07:05 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Kyle here is the thing about limb driver. Where I hunt I fear I am going to get the cable snag on something. Being I climb up 6 feet of river back I need a rest with less stuff on it.

It looks to me this rest is going to do what i want.I have looked attwo others

Flipper drop-away
Whammy Drop-Away

My choice would be the whammy, but no LH model being made.
From what I have witness with the flipper is it has morecontact with fletching than the WB[:@]and no LH models

Greg / MO 02-05-2008 07:08 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
:DThanks, Germ... that was in honor of you

I'll check on the left-hand version for you... I started to say no, but that was the Crimson Trace laser grip I was thinking of. :)

Germ 02-05-2008 07:09 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Anybody shoot one yet?
I'd rather shoot my bag target.

How noise is it?
I didn't hear a peep out ofa single onelying on the tables in our booth at the ATA show.

I just realized you were dising me twice:D

Ok lets try this again

Does the rest make noticble noise when an arrow is drawn on the rest?

Has anybody shot an arrow with this rest?

Greg / MO 02-05-2008 07:16 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
:D:D:D:D

Greg / MO 02-05-2008 07:19 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
LOL... I'm STILL chuckling... :)

Like Pat said, they won't start shipping for a few more weeks. The product is ready, but there was a hold-up on packaging. I do plan on getting one though and putting it through its paces this summer.

I'm thinking of ordering another Allegiance and putting this rest on for my next elk-hunting trip.

Germ 02-05-2008 07:22 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

LOL... I'm STILL chuckling... :)

Like Pat said, they won't start shipping for a few more weeks. The product is ready, but there was a hold-up on packaging. I do plan on getting one though and putting it through its paces this summer.

I'm thinking of ordering another Allegiance and putting this rest on for my next elk-hunting trip.
Well if it works out I plan on putting one on all 4 bows

ROSS Cardiac
ROSS 337
Hoyt CyberTec
Elite GTO

If they make them LH[8D]

brucelanthier 02-05-2008 07:54 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

Kyle here is the thing about limb driver. Where I hunt I fear I am going to get the cable snag on something. Being I climb up 6 feet of river back I need a rest with less stuff on it.
Not pushing limbdriver and it looks like you have made up your mind but......I went through some pretty thick stuff a number of times this past season and even when cables (string, cables or limbdriver cable)did snag it was no problem. If the limbdriver is installed correctly the cable won't budge and nothing will bend. I had more trouble with my bow string snagging than the limbdriver because the bow string is on the "outside" and the limbdriver cable is on the "inside" (between riser and bowstring).

I bet you'll get one when they come out in treestand camo ;):D.

MN/Kyle 02-05-2008 07:56 PM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier

ORIGINAL: Germ

Kyle here is the thing about limb driver. Where I hunt I fear I am going to get the cable snag on something. Being I climb up 6 feet of river back I need a rest with less stuff on it.
Not pushing limbdriver and it looks like you have made up your mind but......I went through some pretty thick stuff a number of times this past season and even when cables (string, cables or limbdriver cable)did snag it was no problem. If the limbdriver is installed correctly the cable won't budge and nothing will bend. I had more trouble with my bow string snagging than the limbdriver because the bow string is on the "outside" and the limbdriver cable is on the "inside" (between riser and bowstring).

I bet you'll get one when they come out in treestand camo ;):D.
I was hoping someone would post about that, I would have, but I just got it. I've heard this very thing from many people.

Germ 02-06-2008 05:33 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Well my mind can be changed guys, I will take a look.

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 07:15 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Or you can put a Hostage Pro on all four of those bows you mentioned since it comes in left-handed versions as well. ;)

Germ 02-06-2008 07:20 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Sweet:D

Finally someone shows the lefties some love.

Greg have you ran an arrow accross one yet? I am sure they did some testing. Most important part of a rest to me is how much noise it makes when pull your bow back. It could be the greatest rest since slice bread, but if it's noisy, it's worthless in by book;)

LostInWoods 02-06-2008 07:20 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
I am interested in this new rest as well. Whoever gets their hands on one, be sure to post results!

LostInWoods 02-06-2008 07:24 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Slow down there captain Hooters. I am a righty (thank God!). I do want to know about the noise and performance!

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 07:25 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
I have not, Germ... I held them and admired their craftsmanship (seriously) at the ATA, but I haven't shot one yet.

Like you, that will be the determining factor for me as well. Like I said, I'm thinking of putting one on my new Allegiance for my next elk trip this coming fall, but if it makes a scraping sound as I draw, I'll revert back to my trusty Zero Effect.

Gundeck 02-06-2008 07:32 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Anybody shoot one yet?
I'd rather shoot my bag target.

How noise is it?
I didn't hear a peep out ofa single onelying on the tables in our booth at the ATA show.

I just realized you were dising me twice:D

Ok lets try this again

Does the rest make noticble noise when an arrow is drawn on the rest?

Has anybody shot an arrow with this rest?
Why would you draw an arrow on the rest? Isn't the camo sufficient decoration? And wouldn't you shoot a rest with an arrow? I just can't see the ballistics of a rest being very sound.

(Sorry, couldn't help myself, Germ!) :D:D:D

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 07:38 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
:D

Germ 02-06-2008 07:46 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Ok what is this pick on me week:D

I cannot wait totry the Hostage pro, from what I can see it has a little something the arrow sits on. I circled it in white. From what I can tell is the arrow does not rest against the side brushes. They seem to be there to "guide" arrow if it gets off track.

Am I understanding this right?

LostInWoods 02-06-2008 07:49 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Looks like it...and congrats on your "Paint" skills!

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 07:55 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
All three brushes sit on "ramped" adjustments that allow them to be slid up and down along the ramp's length -- which in turn moves the bristles in and out. This allows the user to adjust the bristles so that all three equally and uniformly contact the arrow shaft at the same time.

If the two on top didn't contact at the same time, it would allow leeway for "wobble" as the shaft shot out of the rest; by having them contact all at once, you get the benefit of the Whisker Biscuit's "full containment" theory, but in a much more highly adjustable platform -- and without the disadvantages of the fletching contact.

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 07:56 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
But you're right in that the weight of the arrow will ride along the bottom bristles. But you still want the side bristles making contact so as not to allow wobble during the firing of the bow.

Germ 02-06-2008 08:03 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Ahh ok I understand

Sooner State Hunter 02-06-2008 08:07 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Seems very close in design to NAP's QT 360 capture rest... http://www.newarchery.com/#/product

GR8atta2d 02-06-2008 08:08 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
Germ..theres a few showing up on Ebay already. Right and LEFT handed.

Will you be able to shoot helical Fletch with these??

Gundeck 02-06-2008 08:08 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
My son has the regular Hostage on his Diamond. The only difference, I think, is that there is no adjustment in the brushes, so there is a little "wiggle" room on the side brushes.

atlasman 02-06-2008 08:10 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

All three brushes sit on "ramped" adjustments that allow them to be slid up and down along the ramp's length -- which in turn moves the bristles in and out. This allows the user to adjust the bristles so that all three equally and uniformly contact the arrow shaft at the same time.

If the two on top didn't contact at the same time, it would allow leeway for "wobble" as the shaft shot out of the rest; by having them contact all at once, you get the benefit of the Whisker Biscuit's "full containment" theory, but in a much more highly adjustable platform -- and without the disadvantages of the fletching contact.
One of the biggest misconceptions about the WB is that you want a nice "tight" fit.............You don't (not in archery anyways ;))

My fear with the Hostage is that to get proper function you will lose containment........possibly enough to even have the arrow slip off left or right (in between the bristles)......not sure though.

LostInWoods 02-06-2008 08:15 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Germ..theres a few showing up on Ebay already. Right and LEFT handed.

Will you be able to shoot helical Fletch with these??
Negative. They have the original on ebay, not the Pro.

Gundeck 02-06-2008 08:33 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: atlasman

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

All three brushes sit on "ramped" adjustments that allow them to be slid up and down along the ramp's length -- which in turn moves the bristles in and out. This allows the user to adjust the bristles so that all three equally and uniformly contact the arrow shaft at the same time.

If the two on top didn't contact at the same time, it would allow leeway for "wobble" as the shaft shot out of the rest; by having them contact all at once, you get the benefit of the Whisker Biscuit's "full containment" theory, but in a much more highly adjustable platform -- and without the disadvantages of the fletching contact.
One of the biggest misconceptions about the WB is that you want a nice "tight" fit.............You don't (not in archery anyways ;))

My fear with the Hostage is that to get proper function you will lose containment........possibly enough to even have the arrow slip off left or right (in between the bristles)......not sure though.
I don't think my son has dropped an arrow to either side yet, and the Pro will allow you to tighten the clearances even more, so I don't think that is likely.

Greg / MO 02-06-2008 08:38 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
I didn't say "tight". Tight would impart drag on the arrow.

My fear with the Hostage is that to get proper function you will lose containment........possibly enough to even have the arrow slip off left or right (in between the bristles)......not sure though.
But this is one of the reasons you DO want the bristles adjusted right up to the point of making contact with the shaft.

atlasman 02-06-2008 08:44 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Gundeck

ORIGINAL: atlasman

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

All three brushes sit on "ramped" adjustments that allow them to be slid up and down along the ramp's length -- which in turn moves the bristles in and out. This allows the user to adjust the bristles so that all three equally and uniformly contact the arrow shaft at the same time.

If the two on top didn't contact at the same time, it would allow leeway for "wobble" as the shaft shot out of the rest; by having them contact all at once, you get the benefit of the Whisker Biscuit's "full containment" theory, but in a much more highly adjustable platform -- and without the disadvantages of the fletching contact.
One of the biggest misconceptions about the WB is that you want a nice "tight" fit.............You don't (not in archery anyways ;))

My fear with the Hostage is that to get proper function you will lose containment........possibly enough to even have the arrow slip off left or right (in between the bristles)......not sure though.
I don't think my son has dropped an arrow to either side yet, and the Pro will allow you to tighten the clearances even more, so I don't think that is likely.
I wouldn't want all three sets in contact (that tight).......common problem people have with the WB is buying one that doesn't fit right.

I'm sure the Hostage will shoot fine........other WB copies as well.

atlasman 02-06-2008 08:46 AM
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
 
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

I didn't say "tight". Tight would impart drag on the arrow.

My fear with the Hostage is that to get proper function you will lose containment........possibly enough to even have the arrow slip off left or right (in between the bristles)......not sure though.
But this is one of the reasons you DO want the bristles adjusted right up to the point of making contact with the shaft.

Not at the expense of arrow flight...........a properly fitted WB does not have all bristles in contact with the arrow.


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