Jeff,


All I'm trying to tell you is that before I trip the release I'm aiming at a SPECIFIC spot on the deer. It really doesn't matter what it is and it could evenbe nothing but a one inch brown spot. The point I'm making is, I don't look at my pin. I put the pin on the spot I want to hit then from that moment on Iconcentrate on that spot......WHATEVER it may be.If the deer moves, obviously so does my spot and I will start the whole process over again, It takes only buta second to find my spot, place the correct pin on it then concentrate on that small spot. The pin is visible but it'sNOT my focal point, the deer is and specifically the exact spot I'm trying to hit.

What I don't do and recommend others don't as well is simply put my pin behind the shoulder and trip the release. Are the vitals there? Sure but I still want to be as accurate as I can. That's all I'm trying to say, I want to pick a spot and aim for it NOT just simply place my pin behind the shoulder and "let her fly".

So which one do you do, try to hit a precise spot, or just float the pin behind the shoulder and shoot?

You got that right Steve!!!!!!! OVERanalyzing everything......

I am going to make this simple. If you want to be successful you better pick a spot. the more you focus your aim, the more acurate your shot will be. more acurate shots = more deer on the ground. Another important aspect to doing this is it will always help with " buck fever". If you are focusing on a spot you are not focusing on the deer. You must practice this before hunting. It is best to use a 3-d target of what you intend to hunt. Try it and you will become a believer.It will also help with your follow through. Which makes you more accurate.

I obviously aim at the kill zone and barring any rush I try to hone in with my pin atthe smallest spot in that area.Ishoot with thementallity aim small, miss small.That being said I like all others have had some shots I wish I coulddo over.

Call me silly and a beginner if you want, but I see the spot.

David:

I shot a 3D tournament yesterday. I'm looking through 10x42 Leuopold binos to help discern "something" for me to aim at. Sometimes picking that spot takes a while....even with the binos. Sometimes (3D) I have to pick a crease in the foam and just say....."I need to be 3" right and 2" up from there". When that happens....there is no "spot" where I need to be. I just know I need to be there.

It's no different than what I've been saying this whole thread. I know where my arrow needs to go....and I put my pin there.

We're saying the same thing.....pick the place you want your arrow to enter.......carefully. But if you can pick an exact spot on a deer's hide at 20 yards.....you see a helluva lot better than I do.....even with binos.

I must confess.... I am a spot picker [8D]. I dont' know how, why, or what I'm looking for most of the time. But at the moment of truth I'm looking at a hair, tuft, wrinkle, shadow, discolorment, etc...... I narrow it down to a little point on the deer itself. I like the dart analogy. I used to play a lot of darts. When I got good I would aim for a specific hole instead of the area of the number I'm trying to hit. Aim small.... miss small.

I left work Friday and this thread was around 5 pages which was alot for what I felt was a simple topic, now on Monday am, it's on page 12!!! I can't refrain any longer ...

MY OPINION ONLY: If you are consistently putting double lung or liver/lung (on quartering shots) on your prey and recoveringthe animalwithin a reasoable distance then whatever you are doing works, period. Whether you say you are picking a spot or not is just "rhetoric", as was said 7 or 8 pages ago. What's next? - "Do you put on your right boot first or the left?"

First off... Binos on a 3D course???? PFfffffffft

Second, being a great shooter and becoming the arrow are not necessarily the same thing.

David....

I think you and I would agree we do the same thing in about 2 minutes of shooting together.