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Whooops, sorry, I posted the wrong article. Crap, now im going to have to go find it agian. But the second article was correct.;)

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"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

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"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Great add Arthur P. If we give up our guns, we also give up our freedom. Isn't the good ole USA great!

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You state above, that you think “a better controlled way in purchasing firearms would help America deal with their problem.” And went on to say “I don’t think crime has anything to do with it” (what is it? By the way…) And “less guns in the proximity of unqualified people would mean less deaths or injuries” and went on to conclude with “it worked for your country”

How are you not making assertions with those statements? How are they not generalized down to the simplest of levels possible? And how are you not comparing countries? Sounds to me like you believed what your government said…

First of all, you don’t live in a completely democratic society, but your butt was saved by one, in the 1940’s I might add… so I’m sure you can’t understand the freedoms that we have, how we got them or who we come from.

I won’t argue with your “googled facts” and I can’t think of a weaker way to gain information or statistics for the sake of an argument. One search on the net is really supposed to be taken seriously? Come on… and we’re not talking about crime. We’re talking about the second amendment, they really are two different subjects. The only similarity is that one contains guns and they other might.

I don’t see how you even have an opinion on this since you admit that you chose to forget American history. The history of a country that is the sole reason you don’t live in “the new and bigger Germany”…

You also admit that you bought a bow since you can’t get a gun, and then want to argue that people shouldn’t have guns…

Do you know why you can’t get a gun??? I’ll tell you if you really want to know… If you don’t please don’t read below this line…

Because your government controls you and your actions! They may ask what you have to say; and they may even listen… But what are you going to do if they don’t? Get out your bow? Yeah, that’ll work really well. Your best chance at getting what you want and deserve is hope; but hope isn’t a plan little buddy… Can you say oppressed?

Fail to plan/plan to fail!

I guess you didn’t get the message in the “history lesson.” I guess I’m not a creative enough writer (or cut and paster, since I’m not really the author)… But I can’t really think of a nice way to present the hidden message, so I’ll skip that part…

Respectfully,

“The Free KP”

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I think everyone needs to calm down here and take a step back.

KP you make it sound like just because certain people in various countriescant own guns that they do not have freedom, well i can tell you from my years of travelling that there is way more to life than guns and I hunt, and the US isn't the bee all and end all, every country has its good and bad points, some are better than others i guess. Have you ever experianced the true beauty of Spain or Italy, the cuisine, the friendly people and the great freedom there?

Freedom comes in many forms than just being able to own a firearm. I live in Scotland and I for one minute do not fee oppressed at all or live in fear let alone feel the need to own a gun to protect my family waiting for my government to turn on us. uh no.

Kind regards

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I'm sorry Remington Girl but your post clearly shows your ignorance in regards to our second amendment. The right to own and bear arms affords us the ability to remain free.

Our government can't turn on us because of this right and because of the Americans that are willing to FIGHT for Freedom.

Please don't dumb down our freedom. It's not that simple and shouldn't even be compared to "the true beauty of Spain or Italy, the cuisine, the friendly people and the great freedom there?" as you put it.

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You know, I could, and would like to go on and on here… and really I’m deciding not to post what I just typed, so I’m going to say this…

If a free society has no way of protecting its self from its own government; they’re only free because they are allowed to be. And that my friend isn’t my idea of freedom.
I hope you enjoy your weekend,
KP

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I once lived in Spotsylavania County, VA for a decade---at one point it was the most heavily armed county in America! hahahahaha!

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So your saying that we didn't fight for freedom? I find your post ingorant because your basically saying America is the best and how you fought for true freedom - Braveheart comes to mind.

I DO understand the 2nd amendment, I studied American history at highschool plus my boyfriend talks about it like most other Americans i speak to.

And do not call me ignorant, I get highly offended when people say that when they do not know me.

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Never said anyhing about what you or your country did or did not fight for.

OK.........
I wasn't calling you ignorant. Do you need a definition of the term? It's really not an insult.

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I want to make it clear that I am not slagging your consitution or trying to make fun of Americans, I have strong ties to there and my other half is Southern.

I do alot of shooting here, mostly skeet shooting, i am also highly educated hence my profession so I would not say something to make an ass of myself.

I will be going bird hunting in March also, there will be loads of pictures to follow.

Maybe my posts were interpreted wrong, i dont know but I dont want anyone getting the wrong impression of me as being something that I am not.

Hope this clears things up.

Sarah.

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That's where I live now, and yes, heavily armed; I like it that way!

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Dont wanna sound stupid here but what do you mean? Like everyone walks around with a concealed weapon?

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No, well I guess. I don't, but we have a lot of fine country people here, who happen to like guns... and road hunting. [:'(]

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I dont even wanna know what road hunting is lol :D

People that I met from the South are sound.

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First, to the gentleman from Belgium, Frank. Those statistics you posted about the guns owned in America verses the crime committed by guns are flawed; the guns owned by Americans refer to LEGALLY-OWNED weapons. The crimes committed with firearms are mostly, MOSTLY (like well-over 80%) committed with illegally obtained weapons. Do some research and find out how many crimes are committed with legally-owned firearms, then look and see how many gun-related-crimes are committed altogether. Your numbers will be very different, I guarantee.

Second, Sarah;

First of all, welcome to HuntingNet.

You have to realize how our country was founded. How we came to be here and be the country we are. Our settlers were being taken advantage of by our government. If we were unarmed, we'd still be drinking tea at lunch-time, and working our butts off for England. Now, we're working our butts off for our government, but we have alot more to show for it (have you seen our military? WOW!!).But if it ever comes to the point where we don't trust our government, or believe they/it has our best interest in mind, we are armed and willing to do what we can to change things. If your government got that bad, what could your people really do about it? Wave posters and march in the streets? (not meant as an insult in any way). It wouldn't go a long way I bet. Look at what happened in China. How many people died when the military opened fire on the crowds in Tiananmen Square? HUNDREDS!! And they could do nothing about it. That would never happen here.

Just understand when you talk about all the crime over 'here' and all the 'crazies running around', it's not that bad here. Not nearly as bad as some of you folks in other countries think it is. And if we were unarmed, it would be alot worse. Look at the crime-rates in the states that have concealed and carry laws (states that allow people to carry concealed weapons). Look at how the crime-rates dropped in all those states when the concealed and carry laws were passed. I think they speak for themselves.

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Recieve an education from one of the framers of the Constitution. Google using keywords '2nd amendment' and 'thomas jefferson'