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Gun Poll on USA Today
I know, this is the archery section but the outcome of this will affect a lot of us.
Go vote! http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm |
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I just voted and so far it was 97% yes, but I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if the results are not to the Liberal Media's liking, we will never hear or see the results, the story will be dropped. If I were you I would post this in every section on this forum.
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with 642,000 + votes yes is winning 97% with 1% logging on to say..I don't know (duh)
Thanks Buell, a good heads up! Support for 1 means support for all! |
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ORIGINAL: Tuco I just voted and so far it was 97% yes, but I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if the results are not to the Liberal Media's liking, we will never hear or see the results, the story will be dropped. |
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Hilary and her team of donkeys won’t be taking our guns man. If they try, it will start the next revolutionary war; where we’ll just have to become the United States of America, again…
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I thinkyou guys kinda overreact about guns, I doubt people there will let liberals ban all guns, besides its enshrined in your constitution and America is a gun culture country.
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If it wasn't for the vigilance of groups like the NRA and SCI, our constitutionally "guaranteed" gun rights would be watered down to the point that the whole country would have very restrictive guns laws like NYC or Washington DC.
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Exactly Roskoe
If "we the people" do not stand tall and proud and vote accordingly, our rights will disolve. |
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Remington girl...some of us believe the second amendment guarantees or gun rights...other interpet that amendment to only mean our armed forces. So yes, you may perceive some of us to be overreacting, but if one looks at the plight of England and Australia, then maybe you would be paranoid as well.
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Our constitution is under attack constantly by the anit-gunners, right now we have a case going before the Supreme Court over the Washington DC gun ban and whether the 2nd Ammendment guarantees our right to own firearms. Some people in this county thinks our Constitution is a ever evolving document that need changed to fit the times. Our founding fathers crafted it just to keep things like that from happening. By the way a little Scottish in my family here,my grandfather on my dad's side his mom and dad were from Scotland, he was born here but his sister was born there, both have since passed away. I often wonder about distant relatives I have there, but like most,my family tree got a little lost during immigration way back when.
ORIGINAL: remington_girl I thinkyou guys kinda overreact about guns, I doubt people there will let liberals ban all guns, besides its enshrined in your constitution and America is a gun culture country. |
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right on tuco!
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ORIGINAL: Tuco Our constitution is under attack constantly by the anit-gunners, right now we have a case going before the Supreme Court over the Washington DC gun ban and whether the 2nd Ammendment guarantees our right to own firearms. Some people in this county thinks our Constitution is a ever evolving document that need changed to fit the times. Our founding fathers crafted it just to keep things like that from happening. By the way a little Scottish in my family here,my grandfather on my dad's side his mom and dad were from Scotland, he was born here but his sister was born there, both have since passed away. I often wonder about distant relatives I have there, but like most,my family tree got a little lost during immigration way back when. ORIGINAL: remington_girl I thinkyou guys kinda overreact about guns, I doubt people there will let liberals ban all guns, besides its enshrined in your constitution and America is a gun culture country. |
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A curb on gun crime starts at home....teach men to be men. Teach them honor and respect. Pretty simple to me.
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ORIGINAL: virginiashadow A curb on gun crime starts at home....teach men to be men. Teach them honor and respect. Pretty simple to me. |
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I would rather people work out their problems than the government trying to meddle into something. Being responsible for your kids and their habits is what we need to address.
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I wouldn't want to ban guns because I hunt and therefor it would have a significant impact on me, however i would like to see a curb on gun crime in the US because it is out of control. Which reports much trouble at home...[8D]Guess if Guns aren't readilyavailable criminals will still find a way.. View Gallery [/align][/align][/align]By LOUISE GRAY [/align]SCOTTISH POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT [/align][/align]ONE violent crime is committed every 37 minutes in Scotland as the country fails to tackle the "blades menace". [/align]The latest statistics show a slight increase in the number of crimes and offences overall last year to more than a million. But while crimes of dishonesty and housebreaking fell to a record low, non-sexual crimes of violence were up by three per cent to 14,099 - or 39 violent crimes every day. Kenny MacAskill, the justice secretary, blamed the "blades menace" and promised a further crackdown on knife culture. But experts said it would take a generation to turn around "a country where violence is no longer regarded as an inevitable fact of life". The rise in violent crime was first revealed earlier this summer following an investigation in The Scotsman that found an increase in the number of assault victims attending accident and emergency departments. This has now been supported in the latest crime statistics which show that violent crime rose by three per cent last year. The biggest increase was in serious offences such as murder and attempted murder, up by five per cent. Robbery was up by one per cent while other violent crimes remained stable. The previous two administrations had tried to make headway in tackling Scotland's "booze and blades" culture, including a recent amnesty on knives. But levels have remained the same for the last decade. [/align] [/align] |
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d I wouldn't want to ban guns because I hunt and therefor it would have a significant impact on me, however i would like to see a curb on gun crime in the US because it is out of control. Yes Scotland has knife crime, but thankfully not as bad as what England has. You'll also find that these crimes are commited mostly in cities. P.S that article must be years old because our crime level has fallen. |
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"I wouldn't want to ban guns because I hunt and therefor it would have a significant impact on me, however i would like to see a curb on gun crime in the US because it is out of control. "
How many criminals do you think actually go to Gander and legally buy a gun? Criminals will always be able to get their hands on them, thats what makes them criminals. |
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ORIGINAL: fatsbucknut "I wouldn't want to ban guns because I hunt and therefor it would have a significant impact on me, however i would like to see a curb on gun crime in the US because it is out of control. " How many criminals do you think actually go to Gander and legally buy a gun? Criminals will always be able to get their hands on them, thats what makes them criminals. |
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I mean seriously? Is that a question? Sometimes a person can be so intelligent they're actually stupid! If it doesn't give us the right to bare arms/own a firearm, then I'd like to know what kinda arms we're baring?
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I'd bury my guns in the woods before I would give them up because the government told me to. And I do not even hunt with guns anymore, only my bow.
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ORIGINAL: virginiashadow I'd bury my guns in the woods before I would give them up because the government told me to. And I do not even hunt with guns anymore, only my bow. |
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I think in many ways banning something for a governement is far more easier than getting people a proper education about it.
Alcohol for instance, softdrugs, guns, knives etc.... I agree with Remington girl, a better controlled way in purchasing firearms would help America deal with their problem. I don't think crime has anything to do with it, it is just a big excuse both parties use. Less guns in the proximity of unqualified users will mean less deaths or injuries.... Correct me if I'm wrong but in our little monkey country it worked ! Frank Belgium |
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ORIGINAL: m9a9g9i9c I think in many ways banning something for a governement is far more easier than getting people a proper education about it. Alcohol for instance, softdrugs, guns, knives etc.... I agree with Remington girl, a better controlled way in purchasing firearms would help America deal with their problem. I don't think crime has anything to do with it, it is just a big excuse both parties use. Less guns in the proximity of unqualified users will mean less deaths or injuries.... Correct me if I'm wrong but in our little monkey country it worked ! Frank Belgium You are here but its a strict process carried out by the police with background checks etc, and they work it took my dad 2 months just to be awarded a shotgun license. I really do wish we could bring back hand guns but i know it wouldn't work herebecause there are too many idiots here that would just take the biscuit. Theres alot of government control here and I dont like it one bit. I'd like to trade some of America's values and vice versa. |
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I am not kidding Remington Girl. I work with juveniles that have committed murders, car jackings, rapes... all with firearms. I would not want to be a sitting duck when they came "knocking" on my door to hurt me or my family.
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Remingtongirl,
With all due respect, I don’t think you understand our second amendment, but I could be wrong. The second amendment has one purpose; to protect all the others. We cannot protect our freedoms without it, so we’re very eager to keep it around. The liberals use words like militia as an adjective to describe people who want to protect this amendment. But they forget that it was a militia that started this great nation. Many also confuse the second amendment with hunting and fishing, and that’s just the way Hilary and the other donkeys want it. Hunting and fishing are a given. We have the right to keep arms so that we can form a fighting force to take back our country if needed. We’d rather not confuse that mission with hunting and settle for single shot .410 shotguns. I’m glad to hear that you like the USA. So do I. Respectfully, KP |
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Samer here, we do need to go through a process before getting a firearm, you need to shoot at a range withthe weapon you want to buy or at least one of the same caliber, after passing a test you get a purchase receipt from the local police departement and with that you can go to the gunshop and buy the gun.
I think this is a good idea..... Could be because you have a big ass country, you all so have more lunytunes running around. As far as stupid young kids messing things up we do alright I think, besides the occasional racist killing we do ok........ F. |
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ORIGINAL: virginiashadow I'd bury my guns in the woods before I would give them up because the government told me to. And I do not even hunt with guns anymore, only my bow. |
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the reason why I have a bow is because of the fact that the police departement would issue a receipt of purchase fora glock 17 on my 18th birthday.
I got pissed and bought a pse and 12 arrows with Broadheads and went back to the police and asked them if I needed a permit for that..... lucky for me you didn't at that time.....but the face the seargent made was priceless F. |
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ORIGINAL: m9a9g9i9c I think in many ways banning something for a governement is far more easier than getting people a proper education about it. Alcohol for instance, softdrugs, guns, knives etc.... I agree with Remington girl, a better controlled way in purchasing firearms would help America deal with their problem. I don't think crime has anything to do with it, it is just a big excuse both parties use. Less guns in the proximity of unqualified users will mean less deaths or injuries.... Correct me if I'm wrong but in our little monkey country it worked ! Frank Belgium I’d recommend that you go study world history. Starting around the beginning of the twentieth century would be good. Make sure you pay close attention to what America was doing during the 1940’s. After that, we’ll start comparing countries. Then I think you should study American history; paying close attention to the declaration of independence and our amendments. Then you should go look at some good statistics in regards to states that allow concealed carry permits and crime rates. After you’ve done what I’ve suggested above, you’ll probably come back and edit your post and then we can talk. Respectfully, KP |
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I guess now would be as good a time as any; for a lesson in history... For those that don't know about history...... here is a condensed version. [/align] Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. [/align] The two most important events in all of history were: [/align] 1. The invention of beer, and [/align] 2. The invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. [/align] These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: [/align] 1. Liberals [/align] 2. Conservatives. [/align] Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. [/align] Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement. [/align] Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. [/align] Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men. [/align] Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided. [/align] Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass. [/align] Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. [/align] Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and s till provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. [/align] Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing. [/align][/align] |
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That's hilarious! Wait, what's in the fridge......whew, Budweiser.
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Theres nothing wrong with having different types of people in a country, besides it would be boring if we were all the same.
I'd have to say that im more conservative than liberal though i do like imported beer (German and American esp Coors and Bud) I like sushi, I work in a male dominated industry and earn more than my boyfriend at the moment. My boyfriend is Southern as they come and has no problem with me earning the higher wage, he believes in equal rights im a damn good flight dispatcher and have been told that I am good at my job. Theres nothing wrong with that. |
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point taken !!!
still the "less guns " theory works.... without being disrespectful or ignorent.......I wasn't generalising or comparing countries, all I said was that it worked over here...... And I don't need to study american history, I already did that in highschool and I chose to forget......I don't see why the 1940's have anything to do with this...... some facts I just googled; In 1994, 44 million Americans owned 192 million firearms, 65 million of which were handguns US population of 300 million about 39 % of all homocides are gunrelated in 1994 deaths caused by firearms were 38.000 people. In Belgium we have (official records) 700.000 registered firearms on a population of 10 million, 2 million the governement suggest there are in Belgium, unofficially... That makes 2 out of 10 people who have a gun. we have about 100 people killed every year by firearms. now you do the math...... I am european and I can never truly feel about your country what you feel for it, and that goes the other way around as well. My view of the world is that of my own, I don' t impose it on anyone and I respect other people's views on it. And I do think what I just wrote is not the full picture of it, so regards, Frank |
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KP,
all I can say is I was born on the wrong side of the ocean !!! didn't you read why I shoot a bow damned !!! I couldn't get me a gun.......so........ Don't you just love a man who knows his history ??? Frank |
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and you americans are all invited to try and drink some real beer, belgian made ofcourse
.... No, we're not talking about Heineken that's dutch p1ss......it's impossible to get drunk on that sh1t........ Frank Belgium |
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Looks like Yes is blowing away the no.
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ORIGINAL: m9a9g9i9c point taken !!! still the "less guns " theory works.... without being disrespectful or ignorent.......I wasn't generalising or comparing countries, all I said was that it worked over here...... And I don't need to study american history, I already did that in highschool and I chose to forget......I don't see why the 1940's have anything to do with this...... some facts I just googled; In 1994, 44 million Americans owned 192 million firearms, 65 million of which were handguns US population of 300 million about 39 % of all homocides are gunrelated in 1994 deaths caused by firearms were 38.000 people. In Belgium we have (official records) 700.000 registered firearms on a population of 10 million, 2 million the governement suggest there are in Belgium, unofficially... That makes 2 out of 10 people who have a gun. we have about 100 people killed every year by firearms. now you do the math...... I am european and I can never truly feel about your country what you feel for it, and that goes the other way around as well. My view of the world is that of my own, I don' t impose it on anyone and I respect other people's views on it. And I do think what I just wrote is not the full picture of it, so regards, Frank "Brussels had the fourth highest number of recorded crimes of European capitals (behind Stockholm,Amsterdam, and Berlin, and virtually on a par with Helsinki). According to the same source, Brussels had a rate of 10 murders or violent deaths per 100.000 citizens, which is five times higher than Paris (2 per 100.000) (but only two times higher than in Inner London, and the overall crime rate is similar to that of Paris)." http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html "gun control opponents can play similar games. The Swiss with 7 million people have hundreds of thousands of fully-automatic rifles in their homes (see GunCite's "Swiss Gun Laws") and the Israelis, until recently, have had easy access to guns (brief summary of Israeli firearms regulations here). Both countries have low homicide rates. Likewise this doesn't mean more guns less crime. " With all that said, Belgium has had a low violent crime rate before and after gun controle so its not a good comparison. |
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damn, I should've known you guys have internet as well.....
in my defence, isn't Brussels the capitol of Europe instead of Belgium ??? Frank |
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Stella, anyone ? :)
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