Felons banned from bowhunting?
#21
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
I normally don't get into the little squables between whats right and whats wrong in other peoples opinions here, cause its just that, your opinion. This here is a cut and dry decision made by your local law makers. My wife is a Probation Officer and I hear the horror stories about it all the time.
Va Bowmen and I have a mutual friend that got into a high school fist fight 17 years ago and is still paying the price by not being able to own a gun, vote for his favorite goverment official, or black powder hunt. He is one of the few cases in our society that made a simple mistake, but must pay for it for as long as these other more dangerous criminals keep screwing up on a consistant basis.
He bowhunts and bass fishes and raises 2 children and isearning a living that only I can hope to have. These are the only pleasures that a man in his situation can do to keep himself sain in this sick society.
So my answer is "NO" I don't think that any state should take away your right to hunt with other means than a firearm. people kill people, not guns or bows. There is a big difference in gun control, and makeing stupid decisions just becouse some law maker is also a anti-hunter.
Va Bowmen and I have a mutual friend that got into a high school fist fight 17 years ago and is still paying the price by not being able to own a gun, vote for his favorite goverment official, or black powder hunt. He is one of the few cases in our society that made a simple mistake, but must pay for it for as long as these other more dangerous criminals keep screwing up on a consistant basis.
He bowhunts and bass fishes and raises 2 children and isearning a living that only I can hope to have. These are the only pleasures that a man in his situation can do to keep himself sain in this sick society.
So my answer is "NO" I don't think that any state should take away your right to hunt with other means than a firearm. people kill people, not guns or bows. There is a big difference in gun control, and makeing stupid decisions just becouse some law maker is also a anti-hunter.
#22
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
I am 46 years old. during my misspent youth, over 20 years ago, I committed a felonious assault. I was convicted, and went to prison. I spent 3 years and 3 months behind bars. I am not the same person today that I was 24 years ago. I don't want anyone's sympathy. If I have to pay for the rest of my life,( and I will), so be it. I made choices back then that have consequences. I can live with them.
If that means there are states that will not allow me to bowhunt, fine, I'll take my bow elsewhere. If someday I'm not allowed to hunt at all I will be brokenhearted. However, again, these are consequences of my choices and actions.
Here in Tx state law allows me to hunt with a primitive muzzleloader as well as a bow. I know, I know, federal law differs and that is a whole 'nother can of worms I don't care to debate right now.
Taking a bow out of the hands of a convicted felon is meaningless in detering future crime. If someone wants to commit an assault or robbery they can do it with a bat or a pipe. They don't need a bow to do it.
No one but me assaulted that man all those years ago. I got what I deserved. Prison was the right sentence. Its where I belonged. Today I am a respected, responsible member of society. I am a father and husband. I am an ethical and responsible hunter. I am in a leadership position in my place of employment. None of that changes the past.
Some of you may lose respect for for me knowing what you now know about me. That is OK, I will still have my self respect.
If that means there are states that will not allow me to bowhunt, fine, I'll take my bow elsewhere. If someday I'm not allowed to hunt at all I will be brokenhearted. However, again, these are consequences of my choices and actions.
Here in Tx state law allows me to hunt with a primitive muzzleloader as well as a bow. I know, I know, federal law differs and that is a whole 'nother can of worms I don't care to debate right now.
Taking a bow out of the hands of a convicted felon is meaningless in detering future crime. If someone wants to commit an assault or robbery they can do it with a bat or a pipe. They don't need a bow to do it.
No one but me assaulted that man all those years ago. I got what I deserved. Prison was the right sentence. Its where I belonged. Today I am a respected, responsible member of society. I am a father and husband. I am an ethical and responsible hunter. I am in a leadership position in my place of employment. None of that changes the past.
Some of you may lose respect for for me knowing what you now know about me. That is OK, I will still have my self respect.
#23
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
And the ones here who have made mistakes in the past, don't feel the need to explain yourself or look for forgiveness in this forum. That is something personal to you and your family, if you learned from your mistakes that is all that matters.
Although some of the stories are interesting......
Although some of the stories are interesting......
#24
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
ORIGINAL: Team Virginia
And the ones here who have made mistakes in the past, don't feel the need to explain yourself or look for forgiveness in this forum. That is something personal to you and your family, if you learned from your mistakes that is all that matters.
Although some of the stories are interesting......
And the ones here who have made mistakes in the past, don't feel the need to explain yourself or look for forgiveness in this forum. That is something personal to you and your family, if you learned from your mistakes that is all that matters.
Although some of the stories are interesting......
#25
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Oklahoma
Posts: 367
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool
To many variables???? What's the crime????? What's that old saying..... o' yeah...... Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!....
To many variables???? What's the crime????? What's that old saying..... o' yeah...... Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!....
#27
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Hey Greg.....
Since you've posted, here.....just know you're one of the two I was speaking of. And...you're also one I'm PROUD to call my friend.
Hey Greg.....
Since you've posted, here.....just know you're one of the two I was speaking of. And...you're also one I'm PROUD to call my friend.
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
ORIGINAL: txjourneyman
I got forgivness from the only one that matters!
ORIGINAL: Team Virginia
And the ones here who have made mistakes in the past, don't feel the need to explain yourself or look for forgiveness in this forum. That is something personal to you and your family, if you learned from your mistakes that is all that matters.
Although some of the stories are interesting......
And the ones here who have made mistakes in the past, don't feel the need to explain yourself or look for forgiveness in this forum. That is something personal to you and your family, if you learned from your mistakes that is all that matters.
Although some of the stories are interesting......
A friend in law enforcemnet told me just last night of a friend who was shot several times trying to stop a fleeing bank robber. He forgave the guy after some time and said that until he did, his life was a wreck. He even ran for governer to pardon the guy he was now good friends with. Both had found forgiveness in the One you talk about. He had to leave the force because he viewed everyone as a threat to his life before forgiving the guy.
#29
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
Forgive the sinner, hate the sin....
In Colorado, felons may hunt with a muzzleloader. A bow is off limits. I'm not sure of any state which completely bans felons from hunting?
I am not an Attorney (that word has crossed my lips twice in a week-ecks!), But isn't there a process which would allow convicted, upstanding and productive, felons the opportuntiy to seal their criminal record? I definitely see a difference, and I am willing to give a guy another chance-especially if he's proven himself worthy.
My two cents...
In Colorado, felons may hunt with a muzzleloader. A bow is off limits. I'm not sure of any state which completely bans felons from hunting?
I am not an Attorney (that word has crossed my lips twice in a week-ecks!), But isn't there a process which would allow convicted, upstanding and productive, felons the opportuntiy to seal their criminal record? I definitely see a difference, and I am willing to give a guy another chance-especially if he's proven himself worthy.
My two cents...
#30
RE: Felons banned from bowhunting?
ORIGINAL: grneyemonstr
sorry no sympathy for felons here. i would rather not see them in thre woods.
sorry no sympathy for felons here. i would rather not see them in thre woods.
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