oregonhunter

The fact that you've shot a perfectly good carbon arrow into a cement wall on more than ten occasions makes me for fear your safety in every example you gave us. Please refrain from driving from here on out...especially when there is a storm.

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

--Albert Einstein


Edited by - oregonhunter on 02/07/2003 09:14:21

TFOX

The carbon arrows that explode are going to be target arrows 99% of the time due to the continuous abuse from targets and other arrows smacking them.The reason is they are thin walled and light weight causing them to be more apt to damage.They must be checked before each shot for damage.


It is highly unlikely that the carbon fiber is going to hurt you.The concern is with the splinters that can get stuck in the meat and actually cut you when eating it,not the material itself.

I work with carbon and breath the dust much more than I would like.The amount of carbon fiber you would have to consume to hurt you is much more than a whole arrow would contain.


Also,Easton has a HUGE line of carbon arrows and many carbon HUNTING arrows.They probably don't care if you use aluminum or carbon.They would be more concerned with you using their product.

They seem to be the only ones that care enough to add the warning,or the only ones that understand the chance of a law suit,however small.

oregonhunter

To add on to that, I too had one explode on me last year. I agree with you wholeheartedly PA, I don't think 99% of us could tell if there was damage to our carbons or not. We have all been told from day one that they are either straight as an 'arrow' or ruined.

Just my two cents.

dick_cress

I'm an old timer and I've used Easton Aluminum Arrows forever. I think I bought my firstr Eastons in 1964 and have never been disappointed.

I have not gone to Carbon or even ACC. After studying an reading volumes of material, carbon arrows have one thing that keeps me from changing. Because of the process method that these arrows goes through they are unable to maintain a uniform wall thickness with the same reliability that drawn aluminum yields. Until that uniformity is achieved, I'll stay with amuminum.

I guess you ". . . cant teach an old dog new triks!"

Bowhunter

hc4runner

I shoot goldtips, and I have never had one splinter or brake. I agree with jcrayford, I think that Easton and other manufacturers of carbon arrows are just coverering their a$$es just in case something happens, even though its very rare.

TFOX, do you work at that aluminum smelter over in KY. The reason I ask is because I work at an aluminum smelter here in MO. and I breath alot of carbon dust also. Just wondering.

hc4runner
MO. bowhunter

thundermug

WOW! There is quite a bit of difference between the warnings on Eastons website and what some people here are saying.

For example; Easton says that if a carbon arrow were to hit bone or if a protruding part of the arrow were to hit a tree as the deer ran off, then there would be a very good chance the arrow could splinter and you need to cut that meat out and not eat it. They also said to inspect your carbon arrows after every shot. Even a small amount of carbon fiber, if ingested is dangerous, it cuts.

Tfox there is a difference between fiber and dust.

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cyclone

I eat carbon every day, lots of it, been doin it for 44 years...It hasn't hurt me yet....Well, there was that one time with the burritos.....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ok and that's only two incidents one of which is hearsay....

silentassassin

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The fact that you've shot a perfectly good carbon arrow into a cement wall on more than ten occasions makes me <font color=blue>for</font id=blue> your safety in every example you gave us. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
Did you have a grammatical lapse of reason or are you advocating my safety? Either way I appreciate the thought<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Just for some background, I use to shoot Gold Tips into the cement wall at a Pro Shop I use to work at. We would shoot them into the wall then cut them off and spin test and then put another insert in them and shoot them again, to proove to customers how durable they were. There is nothing about flesh or bone that will make a Gold Tip splinter. Only in rare cases will they splinter at all and that is normally when they take a direct hit from another arrow. In those cases I have seen a splinter come off of the arrow there is no continued degredation of the splinter. I hit one arrow with another earlier this year and nocked a splinter out a couple of inches above the insert (the business end). I have shot that same arrow all year during practice and it has not splintered anymore than the original splinter. Your odds of splintering a Gold Tip on an animal are roughly equivalant to the odds of building a snow man in the bowls of hell!

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comndr45

I do know that ACC's will snap when hitting a hard object. I had a drop-away rest problem that resulted in my hitting a doe in the hoof. The arrow snapped in two about 6 inches from the nock. Just a comment to throw in the mix.

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thundermug

Silent, I think Oregon forgot a word. Please insert &quot;fear&quot; between the words &quot;me&quot; and &quot;for&quot;.

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