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englum_06 01-28-2008 10:45 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 
Well who would have a problem with outfitters if they get to hunt bucks like these for free? It's not like losing your hunting land had any effect on your hunting.

englum_06 01-28-2008 10:45 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 
My view is just like some of the others-- eventually, outfitting will run this sport into the ground.

Schultzy 01-28-2008 10:56 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

ORIGINAL: kevin1

Outfitting is acceptable to me, there are some places where you just shouldn't try to hunt without guidance, but I feel they should never get preferential treatment when it comes to licenses and tags. Stand in line like everyone else or tell your customers to apply for their own licenses well before they arrive and show them how to do it.
Good points Kevin. Unfortunately money talks ,and when money talks the politicians listen!!

huntingson 01-28-2008 10:59 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 
You all really think it is outfitters that are ruining this sport? You realize that without hunters they can't exist right? So, if hunting is being ruined, which I really don't think it is, then it would ultimately be the hunters who are at fault. Outfitters do nothing but offer a service.

Sure outfitters may have "forced" some of you off of lands that weren't yours anyway, but they also make it possible to hunt things like muskox, caribou in the northern reaches, etc.

Plus, if you think that the average outfitter is just rolling in money you are kidding yourself. Do you have any idea the expenses of setting up camps 150 miles from the nearest town? How about bringing horses to the remote parts of the Yukon or British Columbia? It is a crazy business and a lot of these guys really bust their hump.

Lastly, in Illinois, if it wasn't for the outfitters, your state would be a joke right now due to the horrible management that the state DNR has done. It has been the outfitters and private land owners keeping that state in the topslot for B&C whitetails.

MeanV2 01-28-2008 11:06 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson
Lastly, in Illinois, if it wasn't for the outfitters, your state would be a joke right now due to the horrible management that the state DNR has done. It has been the outfitters and private land owners keeping that state in the topslot for B&C whitetails.
Is that Right?:eek:

Dan

Cougar Mag 01-28-2008 11:12 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

Lastly, in Illinois, if it wasn't for the outfitters, your state would be a joke right now due to the horrible management that the state DNR has done. It has been the outfitters and private land owners keeping that state in the top slot for B&C whitetails.
Huh? Which is it in your opinion? Has to be one or the other.

huntingson 01-28-2008 11:16 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Is that Right?:eek:

Dan
I recommend that anyone check facts for themselves, but I have come across a number of articles in Deer and Deer Hunting, American Hunter, as well as a couple other major publications that have stated that the vast majority of B&C whitetails are coming from private lands because of poor practices by hunters and the DNR allowing too many bucks taken every year. Too many Joes are travelling to ILL thinking that they are going to kill a monster on public ground, but when it looks like they might go home empty they are waxing the next yearling that comes by.

MeanV2 01-28-2008 11:32 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 
I don't think we had any Big Bucks here before the Outfitters started.:eek: I have no doubt what you say is true. Do you have any idea how much of the Prime hunting ground in IL. is now controlled by outfitters? Does put things in their favor.;)

Dan

englum_06 01-28-2008 11:58 AM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

I don't think we had any Big Bucks here before the Outfitters started. I have no doubt what you say is true. Do you have any idea how much of the Prime hunting ground in IL. is now controlled by outfitters? Does put things in their favor.;)

Dan
Almost ALL of it!!

englum_06 01-28-2008 12:01 PM

RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Is that Right?:eek:

Dan
I recommend that anyone check facts for themselves, but I have come across a number of articles in Deer and Deer Hunting, American Hunter, as well as a couple other major publications that have stated that the vast majority of B&C whitetails are coming from private lands because of poor practices by hunters and the DNR allowing too many bucks taken every year. Too many Joes are travelling to ILL thinking that they are going to kill a monster on public ground, but when it looks like they might go home empty they are waxing the next yearling that comes by.


And there's going to be alot more "Joe's" traveling to public land if the land keeps being bought up and outfitted- the public land is too crowded as it is. That's why I think there should be some kind of control over the amount of acreage allowed to be outfitted. Why do you think everyone gets pissed when businesses come in and make them move. Kinda comparable to walmart putting out all the little guys.


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