How many is too many??
 

How many deer taken in one year by a person is too many?? All things being equal, should someone kill 25- 30 deer a year?? Is it necessary? I know two guys that killed this amount last year. One killed 28 the other 31. All gun kills. "Do you need to kill that many??" I asked, they said, "sure do, I ain't out there to waste my time" I just don'tsee the need, no way are they eating that much.

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If they are doing it legally and someone (FHFH will take as many as you give them until their processing money runs out)is eating the meat why does it matter to you how many deer someone else kills?

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As long as somebody's eating them....and it's not a detriment to the natural resource.....there is nothing wrong with killing (_________).

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I know folks that kill 5-10 a year, and live off of that meat year round. They eat all of it. I myself can't eat that much, and if I didn't have to pay for processing I would shoot more than I do and donate them. I see absolutely no problem w/ someone killing 100 of them every year as long as they don't go to waste.

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Well, they don't do it legally, and two, the bragging of doing this is rediculous. You don't agree??

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Iam only feeding four people me included so One is fine with me....If I get a smaller doe I will go out and try to get one more.....I have inlaws the raise beef and pigs so I dont rely on just deer......

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I kill my share and it gets eaten, 100% of it, just don't see the joy of killing 25-30 deer in one season.... guess Im the only one that feels this way.

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that is a lot, but as long as its legal and not wasted, then i dont see anything wrong with it really

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If their not doing it legally turn them in.

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Well, if they don't do it legally then they are poaching. And bragging about breaking the law is only ridiculous if the person you are bragging too will turn you in. So, are you mad at them because they are poachers, or are you mad at yourself because you won't turn them in?

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If you have the popultation to take that many deer, it's fine as long as they are not going to waste.

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It just seems counter productive after a while, I mean I passed up 37 deer this bow season, Im talking 15 yd shots, I would have not been able to get rid of that much meat if I had too. I enjoyed just seeing them. I don't see killing 25-30 deer a year in one or two areas is not doing damage in most cases to the natural resource. maybe Im completely wrong on this, if so I will stand corrected.

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I don't know what they did with all the meat, I can't see them eating it all themselves. Oh well, to each his own I guess, I will never do that.

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I would agree with most on here that say that people should kill as many deer as makes them happy (assuming it is legal). That being said i think shooting 30 deer with a rifle would kinda lose its thrill after awhile. Believe me i love to hunt with a rifle, but personally if i got that good at it (or it was that easy, depending) i think i would switch it up and use a shotgun/pistol/muzzleloader/bow to make it a little more challenging. That being said if they are having a ball wackin' and stackin' em with rifles and they aren't going to waste, then more power to them.

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In MD we can kill 36+ deer legally if you bowhunt, muzzleload and shotgun or just bowhunt :D. If it would "damage the naturla resource" I am sure DNR would adjust the bag limits. We have too many deer for not enough habitat right now.

FHFH will take all of the meat you will give them, they help people get meat that are down on their luck.

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Ok well I asked and now I recieved my answer, most see nothing wrong with killing 30 deer in one season, at least you guys are honest, tell me what ya think and don't hold back, love this forum!!!:D

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I dont see anything wrong with taking a hundred if its legal, but I wouldn't knowingly allow someone to take even one illegaly. [:'(] But thats just me.

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Still haven't answered why you didn't turn them in if they are poaching?

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everyone has their own rules, so Im not upset with anyone who disagrees with me, we have an unlimited amount of doe tags in Va, so whatever floats the boat for ya, I just don't think I would have as much enthusiasim to hunt if I killed that many.

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So are they legal or not? If legal who cares? They obviously have an absurd overabundance of deer. If they are poaching they should get whats coming to them.

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Eat what you kill, or give it to those who will. As far as to much, It depends on the herd and how many deer need to be culed for a healthy herd. But from what you discribed, it sounds like what lead to bag limits in the first place.

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IL. archery season you kill as many as you are willing to buy tags for, only 2 bucks though. I have killed around 20 in a year (there is a Children's Home who will accept them as a donation) but frankly anymore I'm too lazy to kill that many. Field Dressing them, dragging them out, etc., etc. If it's illegal where they are doing it then naturally it's wrong. Otherwise more power to them;)

Dan

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Well, unless they are killing 28 does and only 3 bucks they are not following the rules. Sooo, you can use your own imagination on that one. Yes we have an abudance of deer here were I live, Im just saying that for me , that 30 deer is too much. So what Im getting from you guys is, as long as it's legal, it's ok to kill that many? If so, fine, just wanted to know what you guys thought, Im outnumbered here, but I won't get upset, or change myt opinion even if it is legal. I think that these two guys have a major ego problem and it makes them feel more like a man to kill that many deer.

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It makes me feel tired.;)

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Are you going to turn them in?

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No Im not going to turn them in, they have already been caught for not tagging numerous deer.

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Then I fail to see why you are complaining to us about them. You say that they are killing too many deer, illegally, but you won't turn them in "because they have been caught before". :eek::eek:

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That's the way it made me feel Jeff[8D]

Dan

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I enjoy "hunting deer" not just killing deer. I like finding out where they spend their time what families they belong to and how they interact with other deer moving in and out of their territories etc... I couldn't kill that many deer in a season even if was 100% legal. I don't get that big of a thrill out of the actual act of killing. I go out to take my deer but even if I was supplying the meat to the needy I'd have to take them out and show them how to do it rather than keep killing deer. Like I said, I'm not that thrilled with the act of killing and once you cross the line of supplying your own family your just killing. It's not like it's that hard to just kill a deer even here in PA where everybodys whining there aren't deer to kill.

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i know guys like this too. its all being ate so i dont see a problem with it. but thats only as long as its being eaten and not wasted

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They are beig investigated again for it Bruce, Im not the ethics police but Im just saying does someone need to kill 30 deer in year? I mean at what point does it lose its appeal, after the umteenth deer? Take 8-12 deer a year is fine, that's a lot of meat and I have taken that many before, 30 deer, year in and year out? Come on.

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Well this is a totally different story! If it bothers you that much turn them in! Thats alot of deer to be shooting illegaly. That would be all the more deer out there for the law abideing hunter to persue!

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Im not snitching, and I don't say it's causing me to lose sleep, I just said I thought it was rediculous. Tha's all.

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When I first started having good success hunting I had a couple of seasons where I killed 18-20 deer. Truckloads of does on DMAP and doe tags. I used the meat, shared with coworkers, gave to Hunters $ Hungry but honestly after a couple of those seasons I grew lazy. I will still kill usually 6-8-10 a sesaon but more and more I find myself saying "I don't really feel like gutting another deer today" or "I'll letthis onewalk this time, I'dlike to be home in an hour". If it's not wasted and tagged correctly I don't care but I guess for me the novelty of just "killing" a deer
wore off.But I know guys like the ones you speak of, whole families of them. It is a huge ego trip for them. What I thought was funny was when VA made crossbows legal and the whole familyrushed out to buy crossbows (5 of them, 1 actually bought a compound)so they could hunt during bow season. Out of 5 guys they shot 3 times and killed 0 deer in 2 bow seasons and then proceeded to sell their crossbows and bow. But don't forget these guys are master hunters.;) I let em' believe what they want.

Oftenbeing a good huntercan be measuredby how many deer you didn't kill.

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If you are not the ethics police then what are you? Apparently you are trying to impose you "ethical kill limits" on these poachers. Yet you won't impose the actual law on them, "not snitching" :eek::eek::eek:

It's all kind of confusing if you ask me LOL.

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Well Vasaid it is not legal. I doubt they have the money to process even half of those deer. I bet they waste a whole lot of them. If it is not legal that means the land where they are taking those deer from has not been checked out by a biologist and they are probably screwing up the herd for the future. Just image how many small bucks are being killed and won't be growing up around there.

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Hows it going Vab? What ticks me off to no end is that some (not all) of these hunters that kill tons of deer in a year and up throwing out 1/2 half of it away the following year or the next because its all freezer burned! Man that bugs me! They could of just as well let someone else shoot that/them deer instead of having it go to waste or not shot them at all! I know this happens allot because people are always asking me if I want there freezer burned deer for bear baiting and I tell them no because its not legal to use wild game for baiting bear in Minnesota. One should not shoot what they cannot eat, this happens allot. There's so much venison that goes to waste you wouldn't believe it, allot of the butcher shops I get bear bait from have storage rooms for people who don't have enough freezer space. Most of the butcher shops tell me they throw most of it away because it gets freezer burned from not getting eaten. Not everyone waste there deer but Its more then you think. The butcher shops around here no longer store deer or any kind of meat for anyone because most doesn't get eaten and when it does the people come back to the butcher and complain there's something wrong with there meat, i wonder why, freezer burned food don't taste very good!

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Good post!!

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Then maybe the first step is to "snitch" on them instead of complaining about it here. Complaining here accomplishs what?

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Very true!!:)