Best 3D Rest???
01-20-2008 | 08:13 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Best 3D Rest???
ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat
Rob, I feared that would be the answer more than anything. "gadgetry"
I just feel that when and if I get into 3D other than my back yard, I don't want to try and focus on 2 different setups year round.I want my setup to be as close as possible to my hunting rig (as in "my huntingrig"). That way there are no mental issues when season rolls around.Maybe I'm wrong. Just my way of thinking.
LT
Rob, I feared that would be the answer more than anything. "gadgetry"
I just feel that when and if I get into 3D other than my back yard, I don't want to try and focus on 2 different setups year round.I want my setup to be as close as possible to my hunting rig (as in "my huntingrig"). That way there are no mental issues when season rolls around.Maybe I'm wrong. Just my way of thinking.
LT
I shot 70 lbs, hunting arrows at 285fps, steel pins painted white with a red tip, 12" stabilizer, Bodoodle Pro 500 rest, same setup I hunted with, won a pile with that.
01-20-2008 | 08:16 PM
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RE: Best 3D Rest???
The rest needs to guide the arrow as long as possible to be forgiving ,that is untill the string no longer has contact,then you don't want the rest to be in contact.
01-20-2008 | 08:21 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Best 3D Rest???
ORIGINAL: mobow
Ok, now there's a question I understand. We've been taught FOREVER that ANY fletching contact is terrible, horrible, and simply unacceptable.
BUT, in the case of the WB, because each of the 3 fletchings have the SAME contact as the others.....They cancel each other out. It's a non issue. ARe they more vulnerable to flaws in form? Yeah, probably, but the rest in and of itself is JUST as accurate as any other.
ORIGINAL: Matt/TN
I guess I'm just not understanding how it can be as accurate with all the fletching contact, the movement at the shot, and the fact it's supported by whiskers for gosh's sakes. Once again, it might be as accurate. I'm just not able to see "HOW" it's that accurate.
I guess I'm just not understanding how it can be as accurate with all the fletching contact, the movement at the shot, and the fact it's supported by whiskers for gosh's sakes. Once again, it might be as accurate. I'm just not able to see "HOW" it's that accurate.
BUT, in the case of the WB, because each of the 3 fletchings have the SAME contact as the others.....They cancel each other out. It's a non issue. ARe they more vulnerable to flaws in form? Yeah, probably, but the rest in and of itself is JUST as accurate as any other.
Dave Cousins once took an arrow just to prove a point, and and shot it cock fletch down on his spring steel 1 hole rest, so that the cock vane would have direct contact with the blade........when he had been sighted in for cock vane up. On a 90 meter FITA target (100 yards) his arrow just barely missed the 10 ring.....roughly 6" high at 100 yards.
01-20-2008 | 08:22 PM
#47
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Best 3D Rest???
Matt/TN,
Rick James responded to me, this guys shot this in his shop, Think it wouldn't be accurate downrange?
Rick James responded to me, this guys shot this in his shop, Think it wouldn't be accurate downrange?
Jim Despart shot a 450-41x vegas game at our shop actually with a biscuit installed on his bow.
Below is his target
Below is his target
01-20-2008 | 08:24 PM
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First of all.....I'm restricted as to what arrow speeds I can achieve. In a hunting situation I am not.....NOR am I concerned. I could set up an arrow that I could shoot 1 pin to 30 yds with. In 3D (IMO)....."close enough" at 30 yds isn't good enough. It's the difference between 1st and 14th place.
THE difference, to ME.....between 3D and hunting is......what's "close enough" in hunting is NOT "good enough" in 3D.
Can I work hard to get my hunting rig "Good enough"? Probably. But I want to have a hunting rig and a 3D rig that I don't have to worry about setting up for each. My yardages (pins) would be different. My DW would be different. My arrows would be different. Etc...
I just don't want to have to switch up.....ESPECIALLY since I'll be shooting 3D through turkey season. The less I have to alter my setups.....the more confidence I have in each.
Just my opinion......
THE difference, to ME.....between 3D and hunting is......what's "close enough" in hunting is NOT "good enough" in 3D.
Can I work hard to get my hunting rig "Good enough"? Probably. But I want to have a hunting rig and a 3D rig that I don't have to worry about setting up for each. My yardages (pins) would be different. My DW would be different. My arrows would be different. Etc...
I just don't want to have to switch up.....ESPECIALLY since I'll be shooting 3D through turkey season. The less I have to alter my setups.....the more confidence I have in each.
Just my opinion......
01-20-2008 | 08:47 PM
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Fair enough GMMAT. Maybe the arrow weight thing, poundage and sight pin setup is the difference. I really don't know the rules in 3D, so that is the reason for my ignorant[:-]questions. I am just not a gadget type of guy when it comes to a hunting situation. If I have something on my bow for hunting that I am afraid will not perform, said item is discarded for something that I can prove/and trust. I guess what I am trying to say is, I would want no less on a bow I was shooting for 3D.
LT
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