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G5 Meta peep problem......
Have youguys noticed if your G5 meta peeps are "oblonging" out? My 1/4 inch hunter isn't round anymore..... More of an elliptical shape..... [/align] |
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I only have two right now Scott. I put them on my General and Marquis. It's the first ones I've owned and I don't notice anything yet but they are fairly new. I have however heard of this before.
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When they took mine off to put on my Verifier, the guy told me it wasn't round any more. I took a look and sure nuff I could tell it was oblong too. He sais the guy that tied it in had too much pressure on it. He should have had the ties farther from the peep.
I have heard others complain about this also. |
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Huh.... I have never heard anyone mention this before.... [&:]
Not cool..... I own about $60 worth of these things........ |
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It has been mentioned on here before. But I had also heard they had fixed the problem. I guess not!!
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ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter It has been mentioned on here before. But I had also heard they had fixed the problem. I guess not!! I've never had this problem with mine. I tie it about 3/4" above and below. |
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ORIGINAL: gzg38b ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter It has been mentioned on here before. But I had also heard they had fixed the problem. I guess not!! I've never had this problem with mine. I tie it about 3/4" above and below. |
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How could this happen? They are made out of magnesium(spelling?) & that stuff breaks not bends.
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ORIGINAL: buckeye ORIGINAL: gzg38b ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter It has been mentioned on here before. But I had also heard they had fixed the problem. I guess not!! I've never had this problem with mine. I tie it about 3/4" above and below. |
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Do they even still make them? Just went to their site and don't see them listed anywhere.
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My shop wouldn't even sell or install them due to all the problems they had with this........they showed me a couple that actually had stress cracks because they were so out of shape.
I have a couple and even had one in my Equalizer with no problems but I didn't own it long enough to know for sure. I think this happens over time and is probably related to how much you shoot as well. Send 'em back if you can. |
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I don't know when they started having problems with them......but I ordered the first one my shop had ever put in......in December of '06. I had it taken out of my string, this week, when I had the SAP hooded peep with the verifier installed.
I just went downstairs and got the G5.....and mine is still round.....w/ no cracks. Like my wife said....."If I sit here and look at it long enough.....I can probably be convinced its not round", though:D. I trust you guys, implicitly, about this. Mine's just not our of round. Interesting.... |
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I will send them an email and see what they say....
Out of the 6 I own only my 1/4 inch hunter peep shows this damage. The 1/8's and 3/16's peeps all look fine. |
RE: G5 Meta peep problem......
I'm wondering what arrow weights you guys are using? Grains per pound of draw weight?
I've been shooting with a Meta peepat 7 gpp on a Bear TRX 36 at 65 lbsfor over a year and haven't experienced any egging. |
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ORIGINAL: Arthur P I'm wondering what arrow weights you guys are using? Grains per pound of draw weight? I've been shooting with a Meta peepat 7 gpp on a Bear TRX 36 at 65 lbsfor over a year and haven't experienced any egging. |
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Do they make one bigger than 1/4"? I think I have the biggest one they make.....but I don't know.
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ORIGINAL: GMMAT Do they make one bigger than 1/4"? I think I have the biggest one they make.....but I don't know. |
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I'm trying to think.....but I'm pretty sure mine was installed when I bought my bow. If I'm not mistaken......mine might be 5/16", then (I know I ordered the biggest one they had).
Neither here nor there, though.....just wondering. I'm going to shoot some 3D at my shop @ 10:00. I'll ask them if they've heard any rumblings about this. Thanks, Scott. |
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I honestly think it has something to do with the fact that Magnesium is not as strong and durable as say an aluminum Tru-Peep.
Also I think on 70lbs that string is "pinching" in on them pretty hard and over time it can happen. |
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I was shooting 437gr @ 66#'s (Hunting) ......and 362gr @ 66#'s (target).
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Is this a peep without a tube? If so any probs? I am thinking about going to a tubeless peep
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RE: G5 Meta peep problem......
Scott
Got a question for ya. What is the prefered hole size for 3-d in the meta peep ? I was going to get one for that and probable 1/4" for hunting. im ready to get away from the peep with the surgical tube. |
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ORIGINAL: bloodcreek Scott Got a question for ya. What is the prefered hole size for 3-d in the meta peep ? I was going to get one for that and probable 1/4" for hunting. im ready to get away from the peep with the surgical tube. Is this a peep without a tube? If so any probs? I am thinking about going to a tubeless peep |
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Will I gain a few FPS without the tube? Thanks for the help btw.
I just looked it up on basspro.com and this has my name on it. |
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Mine's 1/4" and not egged. It's the large sizes I'd think would be more susceptable to the problem.
Frankly, I suspect a relationship between egging and arrow weight in grains per pound. The lighter you go on arrow weight, the closer you get to a dry fire. Everyone knows that the first thing to get broken or lost on a dry fire is the peep sight because it's the first thing besides the string to take the full blast of that unexpended energy. I'm at 7 gpp with no egging. Buckeye has egging at 5.6 gpp. It'd be nice for everyone who's having trouble with this problem to list their gpp and peep size. Might give G5's people some idea how much stronger they have to make their product. And give you something more constructive to do than just gripe about it. ;) |
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Hey Scott.....
Wouldn't it matter HOW you shoot (RE: peep size for 3D)? For instance.....I shoot with both eyes open.....and I like to line up my peep with my sight housing. If others did this....wouldn't the size of their sight housing dictate the peep size? Just asking...... |
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I hunt with a 3/16" and shoot 3d/target with an 1/8th. When I move to a 1/16th peep, everything is just way to blurry.
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1/16" peep?
Are you serious? They make one this size? I can't imagine.[&:] |
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ORIGINAL: FRALEY Will I gain a few FPS without the tube? Thanks for the help btw. I just looked it up on basspro.com and this has my name on it. Hey Scott..... Wouldn't it matter HOW you shoot (RE: peep size for 3D)? For instance.....I shoot with both eyes open.....and I like to line up my peep with my sight housing. If others did this....wouldn't the size of their sight housing dictate the peep size? Just asking...... Mine's 1/4" and not egged. It's the large sizes I'd think would be more susceptible to the problem. Frankly, I suspect a relationship between egging and arrow weight in grains per pound. The lighter you go on arrow weight, the closer you get to a dry fire. Everyone knows that the first thing to get broken or lost on a dry fire is the peep sight because it's the first thing besides the string to take the full blast of that unexpended energy. I'm at 7 gpp with no egging. Buckeye has egging at 5.6 gpp. It'd be nice for everyone who's having trouble with this problem to list their gpp and peep size. Might give G5's people some idea how much stronger they have to make their product. And give you something more constructive to do than just gripe about it. ;) And uhhhh..... almost 400 grains is no where near close to a dryfire :eek::DBust out the Lincoln logs Arthur is in the house! Also, I am not gripping, if anyone is it is you with others peoples choice of arrows ;) [/align] |
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Thanks, Scott. Sorry if it was O/T.
Interesting how others do it. |
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ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag Do they even still make them? Just went to their site and don't see them listed anywhere. |
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And uhhhh..... almost 400 grains is now here near close to a dryfire   Bust out the Lincoln logs Arthur is in the house! Also, I am not gripping, if anyone is it is you with others peoples choice of arrows 
400 grains is closer to a dry fire than 500. That's all I'm sayin'. The more energy you leave in the bow the more problems you're going to have with accessories and increased wear and tear. If the 400 grain arrow leaves the bow at 70 ft lbs of energy and the 500 gn arrow leaves at 72 ft lbs, then you're leaving 2 ft lbs of energy in the bow that could have gone into the arrow. Instead, you left it for the bow to absorb. About like holding a 2 pound weight a foot over your bow and dropping it on the bow with every shot you take. You and others are griping about your peep sights egging out and I'm posing a question to get some data on a possible reason for it. I was hoping that, even if the whole concept was over your head, it'd at least get close enough to leave enough of a skid mark that you'd understand what I was after. Looks like it was a clean whiff though. [&o] |
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ORIGINAL: Arthur P And uhhhh..... almost 400 grains is now here near close to a dryfire :eek::DBust out the Lincoln logs Arthur is in the house! Also, I am not gripping, if anyone is it is you with others peoples choice of arrows ;) 400 grains is closer to a dry fire than 500. That's all I'm sayin'. The more energy you leave in the bow the more problems you're going to have with accessories and increased wear and tear. If the 400 grain arrow leaves the bow at 70 ft lbs of energy and the 500 gn arrow leaves at 72 ft lbs, then you're leaving 2 ft lbs of energy in the bow that could have gone into the arrow. Instead, you left it for the bow to absorb. About like holding a 2 pound weight a foot over your bow and dropping it on the bow with every shot you take. You and others are griping about your peep sights egging out and I'm posing a question to get some data on a possible reason for it. I was hoping that, even if the whole concept was over your head, it'd at least get close enough to leave enough of a skid mark that you'd understand what I was after. Looks like it was a clean whiff though. [&o] So who's head is this really over? Not mine ;) |
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Whatever you say, buckeye...:eek: But I'd still like to get enough data to find the threshold. 6 gpp? 6.5 gpp? If G5's great unpaid research team - aka it's customers - could give them some data instead of complaints, maybe they could improve their products.
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ORIGINAL: Arthur P Whatever you say, buckeye...:eek: But I'd still like to get enough data to find the threshold. 6 gpp? 6.5 gpp? If G5's great unpaid research team - aka it's customers - could give them some data instead of complaints, maybe they could improve their products. Here is a photo for those interested.  |
RE: G5 Meta peep problem......
ORIGINAL: gzg38b G5 made the peeps stronger last year in response to these complaints. You may have got an old one. I've read in numerous places that the cause of the problem was operator error - people tying them in too close to the peep putting too much pressure on the peep. I've never had this problem with mine. I tie it about 3/4" above and below. Dan |
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I have not had that problem, but I do shoot the 3/16" Meta peep (works better with my sight guard) I shot 326 grain arrows out of my 60# Allegiance all last year.
G5 has beefed them up since the early ones;) Dan |
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I use the 3/16" peeps and, with about6.9 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight, have had no problems whatsoever. One of those peeps has had almost 4,000 shots through it.
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Mine was the 1/4" model. I am shooting a 460grain FMJ arrow out of a 71# Guardian which comes out to about 6.5 gpp.
I would post a pic but when I saw it after the guy at the shop removed it, I told him I had no use for it anymore, just pitch it. |
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Scott, o/t but that is a great photo. Macro? Really nice shot. Okay back on topic.:D
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