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Double Creek 01-09-2008 09:13 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the rifle guys then, Rob.

If God called down and told you you had to kill a deer, tomorrow (the stakes being your life).....fair chase hunting.....and he gave you the choice of a compound or a trad bow......

Which one would you take?

Even if the big man promised you he'd send you one by at 10yds......I'm betting guys who are proficient with both would rather take their chances with the wheelie bows.;)

My trad bow.......

(only b/c I dont own a compound ;))

GMMAT 01-09-2008 09:13 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 
;)

It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol

If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.

If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.

I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve;)

bigcountry 01-09-2008 09:15 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

How is that silly? While yes its not good to practice until you develope bad habits, 50 shots a weeks is less than 10 a day. Everything I've read talks about shooting until its second nature. 10 shots a day is not going to make something second nature. How about blank baling just to work on release? I'd venture to guess most people are going to advocate much more than 50 arrows a week to develope a compitent level of shooting.
Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-09-2008 09:16 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

Sure, when I see a trad bow kill, I give that a little more respect b/c I know the dedication to shooting it takes... Sames as gun vs compound in my eyes.... Maybe its elitist, but I give much more respect to a bow kill vs gun... Distance of shot is not considered.
As do I. My comments are always, "and with traditional gear, kudos". I am very respectful when I see a traditional kill.


don't think you're giving the difference in the difficulty (between the two weapons we're "really" talking about.....compound v. trad) its' due. Just my opinion.
Jeff, hell yes I am. What if a guy takes naturally to traditional gear. I've shot with Matt, he's impressive. Let's say a 40 year old takes up a compound for the first time and he puts in the same amount of time that Matt does shooting his recurve but the compounder just doesn't get it. (believe me, I've seen them, Matt could outshoot them on a course). Would their hunt be easier than Matt's?

I'm not disrespecting traditional bowhunters in anyway shape or form, I love seeing the stick and string laying across a deer but there is way more variables in the "hardness" of a hunt other than that.

mobow 01-09-2008 09:16 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 
Read that one wrong...my bad...mobow's bad..

Double Creek 01-09-2008 09:18 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.

BUT, they also have completely developed their form! I dont shoot much anymore either, but I probably shot 300 arrow a week for 2 years.... I pretty much know my bow and my form now.....It doesnt take a whole lot to maintain it out to 20yds.... Now, you start talking 25+yds, yes, I need daily form practice.

I see both sides of the number of arrows issue.

bigcountry 01-09-2008 09:25 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: Double Creek


ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Whats silly is, I rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week, and some weeks skip, and still bet you anytime I can hit a 3D target at 20 yards. Some of the best trad shooters I know, rarely shoot more than 30 arrows a week.

BUT, they also have completely developed their form! I dont shoot much anymore either, but I probably shot 300 arrow a week for 2 years.... I pretty much know my bow and my form now.....It doesnt take a whole lot to maintain it out to 20yds.... Now, you start talking 25+yds, yes, I need daily form practice.

I see both sides of the number of arrows issue.
I am not talking about a guy who just picked it up DC, I am talking someone with 1 or 2 years experience with it same as most on here wiht a compound.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-09-2008 09:25 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

;)

It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol

If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.

If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.

I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve;)
No no Jeff, hopefully he'll come by the thread but there was zero time to draw ahead of time, he was knocking the arrow as the deer was skidding to a stop. There was no drawing ahead and the distance was the distance, BAM the deer was there, The recurve made it easier. ;) [8D]

bigcountry 01-09-2008 09:27 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

;)

It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol

If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.

If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.

I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve;)
No no Jeff, hopefully he'll come by the thread but there was zero time to draw ahead of time, he was knocking the arrow as the deer was skidding to a stop. There was no drawing ahead and the distance was the distance, BAM the deer was there, The recurve made it easier. ;) [8D]
Ok, let me get this right from an experienced bowhunter as yourself. Your saying this is a norm and not a cornercase??

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-09-2008 09:29 PM

RE: The way the indians did it - Bowhunting
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

;)

It would have been harder to get a shot off with a compound so a compound hunt could be harder?
I was hoping you wouldn't go there......lol

If he'd had the compound....he wouldn't have been limited to the yardage.

If he'd had the compound......he might have drawn, earlier.

I'm betting he'd practiced the shot he took about as many times with the compound as he had with the recurve;)
No no Jeff, hopefully he'll come by the thread but there was zero time to draw ahead of time, he was knocking the arrow as the deer was skidding to a stop. There was no drawing ahead and the distance was the distance, BAM the deer was there, The recurve made it easier. ;) [8D]
Ok, let me get this right from an experienced bowhunter as yourself. Your saying this is a norm and not a cornercase??
bc, of course that's not the norm, I'm not naive and is that an attempt at an insult?

Every hunt, every scenerio differs even within the same person but it's a valid point.


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