Top end for "my area" well I saw a really nice buck that would have scored mid 130's this year, on a brand new piece of property I got permission on this year. If i hadn't found this place the top end for my area would have been around a 100 incher.

Top end for the entire area, there was at least one 170' class killed this year and I know of another 170 killed a couple years ago, near where I had a lease that one of our group dropped the ball on and we lost.

I would say top end bucks in my area would be above 160. For sake of argument 'my area' is about a 8 mile diameter circle. Nontypicals are really rare where I hunt but 10-20 miles west or north of my hunting areas sees a 200"er (nontyp.) fall almost every year. In 8 years of hard bowhunting I have seen three live 'for sure' booners in 'my area' and they have all escaped me. I have seen perhaps half a dozen more that were borderline (around 170) in the same time frame and been fortunate enough to get one of them. All together I have seen probably a dozen 160"+ deer in eight years in my area. One this year is all. (Thank god for luck!)

I spent a TON of time in the woods my first 5 years too, 60-100 days a year so I believe my statistics can be trusted quite a bit. Every 160+ deer I have seen has been a typical, the biggest one was havested by a hunter after two seasons of my futile chasing and grossed 196" or so. I have only seen two nontypicals in the same 8 year span, in MY AREA, that would go in the 150s, one of which my brother took.

I would say top end around here is 100" to 120". Personally I have have not seen any of the 120" bucks in the field but I have seen a few pictures over the years of bucks that have been taken not too far away. I plan on heading to Ohio this coming season to hunt some larger bucks.

Top End - The biggest buck my land will give me100 to 120 is a good buck in my area.Anything after that are monsters.They just dont get enough age.

Greg.. all I got to say is you are awesome. You are kinda like arguing with my wife.. we get on a subject.. and then you go and change it. I realize what the thread was about.. Justin and I were merely discussing Lake county with you. I am sorry for your confusion.. I thought it was very clear. Again.. I apologize.

Like, fighting, with my wife.. I feel the need to actually make sense.

I sure hope there is no make up sex between you too[:'(]

[&:] I hope not!!!

The area I "hunt" not live in. Average 80-100"above average 125-140" and the buck that everyone talks about 150"+.

This is the bow kill I mentioned.

STUD

Charlie are you in NY?