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badger109 12-30-2007 04:46 PM

My First Doe! :(
 
Well I just stuck my first doe with a bow at 4:45. However, I feel terrible because I shot it in the spine.

Well it and a fawn were sitting in front of me eating a little corn for a good 20 minutes, but she wouldn't get broadside. Then when she finally walked away, she walked to my left, broadside the whole time. Well she got through my shooting land but i couldn't draw on it. I got lucky because she turned around and stood broadside in the clearing 20 yards away, so I quick drew back, put he pin on the lungs and let 'er rip. She droped right away.

I feel really bad because I shouldn't have taken the shot right away. But I felt good about it, and I know I had the pin where it needed to be. Luckly I got another arrow in it. It was rolling around on its side trying to get away. I waited until it kind of uprighted itself and it went in high and a little back, it came out the middle of the other side. i think i must have got a little lung, liver, or at least diaphram. it sounding like it was gergling blood and i left because I didn't want to watch it die (or suffer).

and now im doubting myself and thinking about i shouldn't have shot and I should have practiced more. I really dont want to have to slit it's throat. i know two people thatno longer deer hunt for this reason.


sorry for posting this but how long do you think i should wait?

buckmaster 12-30-2007 04:53 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Dude you should have finished that deer right then and there. Stuff happens i wouldnt doubt the shot as i would wether or not you should have left, i would NEVER let one suffer, get back out there and finish her.

childers 12-30-2007 04:55 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
the same thing happened to me on monday but i ran up to her and put an arrow in her head. it is sad, but it happens. nobody is perfect. just practice and remember to hold your breath when aiming and all the other good stuff. but if i were you i would not have left her there like that. you have to finish her off.

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-30-2007 04:56 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Send a second arrow, or even a third or 4th if necessary. Once you have an arrow in a deer, do everything to finish it quickly. ! Would you have shot a single gun shot and then walked away?

ArrowMike 12-30-2007 04:57 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Go back right now and finish what you started and never leave an animal like that again. If it is down and suffering its your job to finish it off or dont go hunting any more!!!

childers 12-30-2007 05:05 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
like i mentioned about my spinal shot deer. i hit the vitals but also the spine. i had to run up to her and put 2 more arrows in her. whenever i take a friend out to hunt and they hit an animal and wont finish it off i wont bring them again. i find it to be very very inhumane and irresponsible. you really need to rethink hunting if you are afraid to go up close to it or get dirty and bloody

badger109 12-30-2007 05:08 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
I think my second shot got it done but im just worried. ill get right back out there. sorry.

childers 12-30-2007 05:12 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
if you hit her in the vitals she should have died within 30 seconds and if it was only 1 lung maybe a few minuites and you would be able to tell that you need another arrow. but see now that you are getting all this criticism this will stuck in your head for next time this happens. but i sure hope there wont be a next time. sry but i have to vent myself on this one

badger109 12-30-2007 05:21 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
yea well i half expected the criticism


Ok well its a few minutes from my house. I only had two broadheads and i didn't have a knife on me (shame on me)

What I thought was it would be better to let it die without me walking right up to it and scaring the $#!~ outta it. I saw the second shot was lethal, i saw the entrance and exit of the second arrow and the blood, and I heared the gergling, then i walked back to my house, which is when i started doubting myself.

childers 12-30-2007 05:25 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
well please keep up posted. i just hate to hear about animals suffering. it is one of the worst things to me.

buckmaster 12-30-2007 05:27 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Dont worry bout us on here critisizing you now, get out there and get your deer, then you can read it when you get back!

childers 12-30-2007 05:32 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
yeah just get off the dang domputer and do whatever you can to get your deer and if it is still alive put her down.

Simp 12-30-2007 05:47 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Guys, after being told 5 times (I counted) to "get back out there and finish her off" I think he gets the point.

Anyway, everyone makes mistakes bro. Live and learn.

buckmaster 12-30-2007 05:55 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 

ORIGINAL: Simp

Guys, after being told 5 times (I counted) to "get back out there and finish her off" I think he gets the point.

Anyway, everyone makes mistakes bro. Live and learn.
he may have got the point but he was still posting.....

but yes, live and learn, im doing my share.

Rhody Hunter 12-30-2007 06:06 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
i see you are still on line . i hope you just left it running and went to make sure it is dead or end it for the deer. we would like to congrat you but not when you walk away from it . post back with the results

BowHuntingFool 12-30-2007 06:35 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Well done on thinking quickly to put a second arrow in the deer! She should be dead in the same spot where you last seen her, if not very close by! For the deer to die it is going to have to suffer, no matter how quickly they die, except from a gun! Unfortunately it's part of the killing, I don't think any of us wants to see an animal suffer! Keep us updated and let us know how everything turned out!

bigtim6656 12-30-2007 06:35 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
you should have put here out of her misery or stayed there till she died it is bad when you wont to shoot a deer but leave so you do not have to watch here die [:@]
besides that you new just like me i missed twice one on a nice 8 or nine point i was sick but happy when i saw the arrow was clean and not a wound

your still learning like most of us so next time put another arrow in herwhy slit her through just get down get close put a arrow in her heart but only move in if she can not get up

ORIGINAL: badger109

Well I just stuck my first doe with a bow at 4:45. However, I feel terrible because I shot it in the spine.

Well it and a fawn were sitting in front of me eating a little corn for a good 20 minutes, but she wouldn't get broadside. Then when she finally walked away, she walked to my left, broadside the whole time. Well she got through my shooting land but i couldn't draw on it. I got lucky because she turned around and stood broadside in the clearing 20 yards away, so I quick drew back, put he pin on the lungs and let 'er rip. She droped right away.

I feel really bad because I shouldn't have taken the shot right away. But I felt good about it, and I know I had the pin where it needed to be. Luckly I got another arrow in it. It was rolling around on its side trying to get away. I waited until it kind of uprighted itself and it went in high and a little back, it came out the middle of the other side. i think i must have got a little lung, liver, or at least diaphram. it sounding like it was gergling blood and i left because I didn't want to watch it die (or suffer).

and now im doubting myself and thinking about i shouldn't have shot and I should have practiced more. I really dont want to have to slit it's throat. i know two people thatno longer deer hunt for this reason.


sorry for posting this but how long do you think i should wait?

BowHuntingFool 12-30-2007 06:40 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

you should have put here out of her misery or stayed there till she died it is bad when you wont to shoot a deer but leave so you do not have to watch here die [:@]
besides that you new just like me i missed twice one on a nice 8 or nine point i was sick but happy when i saw the arrow was clean and not a wound

your still learning like most of us so next time put another arrow in herwhy slit her through just get down get close put a arrow in her heart but only move in if she can not get up

ORIGINAL: badger109

Well I just stuck my first doe with a bow at 4:45. However, I feel terrible because I shot it in the spine.

Well it and a fawn were sitting in front of me eating a little corn for a good 20 minutes, but she wouldn't get broadside. Then when she finally walked away, she walked to my left, broadside the whole time. Well she got through my shooting land but i couldn't draw on it. I got lucky because she turned around and stood broadside in the clearing 20 yards away, so I quick drew back, put he pin on the lungs and let 'er rip. She droped right away.

I feel really bad because I shouldn't have taken the shot right away. But I felt good about it, and I know I had the pin where it needed to be. Luckly I got another arrow in it. It was rolling around on its side trying to get away. I waited until it kind of uprighted itself and it went in high and a little back, it came out the middle of the other side. i think i must have got a little lung, liver, or at least diaphram. it sounding like it was gergling blood and i left because I didn't want to watch it die (or suffer).

and now im doubting myself and thinking about i shouldn't have shot and I should have practiced more. I really dont want to have to slit it's throat. i know two people thatno longer deer hunt for this reason.


sorry for posting this but how long do you think i should wait?

Hey bigtim read the entire post, he did put a 2nd arrow in the deer!

twildasin 12-30-2007 06:47 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
most important thing here is that you learnedfrom your mistake and your gonna let it make you a better hunter. Hey man stuff happens just learn from it and try to do better next time. Congrats on the deer.

matters 12-30-2007 07:04 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Lets not make him hate himself. Dude made a mistake. Bet he doesn't next time. He's probaly young and got excited. I agree he should have finished as soon as possible. But I think he's got that point by now. Lets not make a young or unexpericenced hunter afraid to ask a question.

badger109 12-30-2007 07:33 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
btw it was dead on the spot. Dont worry about it.

buckmaster 12-30-2007 07:36 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Thats our update? Congrats on goin back out there when you did, we was just telling you not to leave her out there,

Now with that being said congrats on your first!! get some pics on here and be proud of it.

matters 12-30-2007 07:40 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
congrads.

hammerman 12-30-2007 07:55 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Congrats on the doe!! The first 2 I shot I spined! Both times I climbed down as fast as I could & walked up about 6ft away and placed the second arrow through the lungs. Don't let it stop you from hunting, and just becasue you practice more doesn't mean it won't happen.

bigtim6656 12-30-2007 08:02 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
yes i know but after putting in the second arrow and it had not died he left why not put a third in her to help her die quick
i can understand shooting a deer once and it runs off not died and you leave. there is no way with a bow you will et close enough to shoot again with her on the move
but if she is just sitting there why not shoot her again he got down and left why not go over and shoot her close
let me ask you this you shoot a doe in the spine she lies there shaking you shoot her again
she is not dead
do you shoot her a third time or leave.
i think he should have mad a third shot or stayed there till she died
what would you do
i am sorry if i came off jumping in on him we all make mistakes and at least her shot her a second time or at least he did not get down and play home run hitter with a log and her head
i would go for the third shot or cut the throat your just stab her in the throat or blood vein in the neck she would not last long with out a throat or air when she is bleeding
again i am sorry for jumping on him i had no proplem with the spine shot or the second shot i just thought it was a little bad to leave her when he could have shot again i am sorry we all make mistakes i know i have

ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

you should have put here out of her misery or stayed there till she died it is bad when you wont to shoot a deer but leave so you do not have to watch here die [:@]
besides that you new just like me i missed twice one on a nice 8 or nine point i was sick but happy when i saw the arrow was clean and not a wound

your still learning like most of us so next time put another arrow in herwhy slit her through just get down get close put a arrow in her heart but only move in if she can not get up

ORIGINAL: badger109

Well I just stuck my first doe with a bow at 4:45. However, I feel terrible because I shot it in the spine.

Well it and a fawn were sitting in front of me eating a little corn for a good 20 minutes, but she wouldn't get broadside. Then when she finally walked away, she walked to my left, broadside the whole time. Well she got through my shooting land but i couldn't draw on it. I got lucky because she turned around and stood broadside in the clearing 20 yards away, so I quick drew back, put he pin on the lungs and let 'er rip. She droped right away.

I feel really bad because I shouldn't have taken the shot right away. But I felt good about it, and I know I had the pin where it needed to be. Luckly I got another arrow in it. It was rolling around on its side trying to get away. I waited until it kind of uprighted itself and it went in high and a little back, it came out the middle of the other side. i think i must have got a little lung, liver, or at least diaphram. it sounding like it was gergling blood and i left because I didn't want to watch it die (or suffer).

and now im doubting myself and thinking about i shouldn't have shot and I should have practiced more. I really dont want to have to slit it's throat. i know two people thatno longer deer hunt for this reason.


sorry for posting this but how long do you think i should wait?

Hey bigtim read the entire post, he did put a 2nd arrow in the deer!

Elkcrazy8 12-30-2007 08:14 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Often it is hard to tell if the last arrow will keep the animal down. If you think that it is mortally wounded it is a good idea to sit there and wait for it to die. If for some reason the deerdid get up. You would have had an idea where it went. Experience alone will tell you when to wait, and when to approach. If you appraoch too soon, and thesecond arrow was not a good onethere is a chance that it could get up an run.

With that said, congrats and welcome to the club!!!!!!!

bigtim6656 12-30-2007 08:17 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
i agree at least he should have waited if you do not have the stomach to wait untill dies whywhy would youhunt

ORIGINAL: Elkcrazy8

Often it is hard to tell if the last arrow will keep the animal down. If you think that it is mortally wounded it is a good idea to sit there and wait for it to die. If for some reason the deerdid get up. You would have had an idea where it went. Experience alone will tell you when to wait, and when to approach. If you appraoch too soon, and thesecond arrow was not a good onethere is a chance that it could get up an run.

With that said, congrats and welcome to the club!!!!!!!

WV Hunter 12-30-2007 08:19 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Badger...glad you got her. Congrats :)

BowHuntingFool 12-30-2007 08:22 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

i agree atleast he should have waited if you do not have the stomic to what it die why shoot it.
:eek:



MichiganWhitetails74 12-30-2007 08:22 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
I'm sure your deer is dead now. I'm sorry you had to deal with this on your first animal. Over time spine shots happen for me (for one reason or another) about every 10th deer. I think you did everything correctly right up until the point where you left. Although I completely understand. Do not be discouraged. These things happen. Get back with us and let us know the outcome! Take Care.

MichiganWhitetails74 12-30-2007 08:27 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
I have never been a fan of the knife in the throat. Hundred deer under my belt in 20 years and never have I pulled the knife. It does not work for me....that's where I lose control..just to up close and personal for me....I prefer just another arrow.

Doegirl75 12-30-2007 08:49 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
I have a story to tell. My first ever deer I shot in the mouth-yes mouth. The button buck was running and I led him too far forward. I nailed him in the mouth at 30yds with a 12 gauge foster slug.[&o] I lost track of him, then I heard coughing. I followed the sound and there was my buck, gasping for air. I just stood there, petrified. I silently pleaded for him to just die. About a minute goes by, he throws his head back and it's over.
Moral of the story, new hunters will choke. Of course, I should of immediately sent another slug on it's way. The thought, however never occured to me. I was too panicked to think on such a rational level. Don't be too hard on this guy. He's looking for help and acknowledged he has made a mistake. I learned, and so will badger109.

Schultzy 12-30-2007 08:53 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
My hats off to matters, BowHuntingFool, twildasin and the others who helped and encouraged him, you guys are good people ! Shame on you guys that sat there and ripped on him, come on, he's a young kid! Give him a break! He'll learn from this, experience is the best teacher! We all have been there. Congratulations badger!

badger109 12-30-2007 10:33 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Thanks everyone even for the criticism. I know now I should have goten right down there, or came right back out. That's the last time i'll ever carry two broadheads in my quiver (I had a field point and a judo point), and hopefully in the future I'll have a chance to draw and I wont get too excited. but it was shot in the spine and wasn't getting up, i felt I had made a good second shot, and didn't have another broadhead so I thought the best thing to do was let it die on its own. i was just really doubting myself though.

its a really big doe btw. ill have to get some pics.


Hoyt13 12-30-2007 10:42 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
congrats buddy you be watching fall in no time just hang in there.

live2Draw 12-30-2007 10:51 PM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
good job. after the second arrow that you knew was a god hit, I probably would have sat and waited, but you did good. she probably died before you got out of sight. I really dont agree with slitting the throat. My dad spined one about 6 years ago. he was behind our house, and it was about 38 degrees out. This deer crawled into the water, which was about 3 feet high. My dad slit its throte. and it lived for nearly 2 more hours. With its front legs holding it up in the river, thrashin horn anytime my dad came near. there was no way to shoot it with a bow, and a gun woulda been illegal. so dont worry.

childers 12-31-2007 05:10 AM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
same here

ORIGINAL: MichiganWhitetails74

I have never been a fan of the knife in the throat. Hundred deer under my belt in 20 years and never have I pulled the knife. It does not work for me....that's where I lose control..just to up close and personal for me....I prefer just another arrow.

moose1915 12-31-2007 05:25 AM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
this all brings up an interesting question.....

moose1915 12-31-2007 05:33 AM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
i was always told by my father to let the animal die with "dignity".

you shoot till it is down, but as long as you know it is a fatal shot (s), leave it be and let it go peacefully.


he told me he'd rather see an animal "go" on its own, quietly, than staring at us humans IN TERROR as we approach it (something we were never meant to do) for a final shot.

Am i conveying the idea clearly?

if i feel the animal is going to die without undue pain (i.e. bleed out) , then i won't add TERROR AND FEAR to the mix by running up to it like a maniac and trying to slit it throat. 9 times out of 10 , if it has been hit good by a broadhead it is in shock and probally not hurting too bad. It's gonna die.Just let it slip away

BowHuntingFool 12-31-2007 06:29 AM

RE: My First Doe! :(
 
Congrats on your Doe!!!!!! Well done, you did good! I personally wouldn't walk up on a wounded deer and try and slit it s throat, you might get yours slit trying to do so!!!!! Once again, Congrats!!!!!!


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