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I LOVE IT!!!!! Thats funny poop right there!!![8D];):D

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Thats scary...How you know so much about Martha Stewart...Just my opinion;)

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I've heard it a grand total of twice in the wild.

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so whats the difference at all if there is any from being busted

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Oh my gawd! Now I'm scared that I know that! :DLOL...

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What the heck does this mean!!??

To hear a buck make the snort wheeze is not real common. Especially when guys are hunting in areas where the buck/doe ratio is out of wack. If Davidmil says he's never heard it, I believe him. He's got tons of time in the woods and has taken a lot of deer. It's not horse crap, it's the truth.

I hunt in a trophy rich environment and have only heard it a couple of times. I have hunted for mature bucks for 17 seasons and have taken as many bucks 3 1/2 and older. I spend the entire month of Nov, a lot of Oct and Dec as well in this pursuit. So when I say I've only heard it a couple of times, it's not horse crap, it's the truth.

When a guy says he hears it a couple of times per week for most of the season...... That's horse crap.

To be fair it was unknown that the guy was mistaking an alarm snort with the snort wheeze.

Your statement above makes you sound like one of the guys you know that can't find their azz with both hands. That's gospel.

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I think he will be able to find it now!! Just feel around....it should have a chunk missing:D

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One will send a buck running away the other supposedly will bring a buck in looking for a fight,

:eek:I wasn't going to go there.:D

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I agree with David. In my neck of the woods....that call would most certainly send 99.99% of the bucks into the next county. Hell....the does fight for the BUCKS where I live:D.

I haven' been hunting deer long....but I do see a LOT of them (Almost 600 sightings).

I have NEVER heard this call made from a deer. Add me to the list.

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Of all the sounds Bucks make, the snort wheeze is the only one I have ever heard that is a show of dominance/anger. They have 3 very distinct ways of showing this. 1.) Posturing/Hair Bristled 2.) Snort Wheeze and 3.) Just outright opening the can 'o whip azz with their horns.

That said, deer are curious at times concerning a fight. They will come to horns rattling at the right time. The question though is whether or not you have 2 dominant Bucks in your area and do they really have a reason to fight or for that matter do they want to fight? Whether over a doe in heat or just to show dominance. I say if I am going to get a chance at a mature Buck, I am not going to take a chance on him already having his butt whipped and my snort wheeze asking him if he wants it again. Duh...

Just my .2c

LT

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It seems the OP asked a very straightforward question. He didn'tpoll who has hunted the longest or why some hunters don't believe in using calls. If you choose sitting in a tree waiting for a patterened deer to come by, that's a great choice as it is a proven method that has consistantly been used to harvest animals since the beginning of time. But while it isyour chosen method,there is no need to ridicule orverbally degrade someone who uses a different tactic andhas had successusing calls.

Obviously deer don't make these vocalizations all the time. They are used verysporadically and commonly only during a short portion of the rutting cycle. The snort-wheeze and the newer aggressive grunt callssuch as a 'growl' or 'roar' are simulations of vocalizations used by dominant rutting bucksand are very aggressive calls that should be used only at appropriate times. They will indeed scare off smaller bucks as they are used bymature bucks and that is precisely the deer they are meant to draw in.There are literally hundreds if not thousandsof documented video-recordedharvests available as evidencethat grunt calls,roars, bleats, snort-wheezes,and rattling have brought indeer that would nothave otherwise presented a shot to the hunter. Toimply that these callsdon't work or that discussion of their use inunwarrantedis completely ridiculous.

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I am a HUGE proponent of the snort wheeze call and have had great luck with it in the past 2 seasosn - pre rut and rut....I will continue to use it in the future.

Here are some excerpts from my hunting journal - the first from New york's opening day 2006;

Now the best snort wheeze encounter ever - from this year; It resulted in a 4 year old buck getting a ride on the Tahoe;

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When assessing David's assessment....;).....HOW do you account for the years afield (and GregH's) without encountering this vocalization (much, if any)......or better yet.....simply DISCOUNT it?

Do deer in certain areas of the country only make this vocalization? Only in certain herd dynamics? Only to people who've bought the call?

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Finally, some real observations that I totally agree with. I've never owned a snort wheeze call but can tell you for a fact in the area that I hunt, this call is heard on a regular basis by mature bucks. It is a call made by mature whitetails, and is intended as a warning for smaller bucks but I've seen it also used just as a dominating call to a doe with no other bucks around. I do believe that when you hear this call, you are dealing with one of the more dominate and aggressive bucks in the area. I don't recall ever hearing it from a subordinate buck. If I were to buy a snort wheeze call, I would definately use is sparingly and onlyto dominate bucks.

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OK...humor me. How do you know when you see him....that he's the dominant buck?

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Just speaking for my hunt area! I hunt over a large bedding area, approximately 1/2 mile wide and 3/4 mile long. I use binoculars on a regular basis to not only scout the areas that I'm hunting but also to scout areas that may be 1/2 mile away. In all this area, it's not uncommon to see dozens of does and during the rut, multiple bucks following and/or chasing them. On a still morning, I can hear vocalizations from more than 200 yds. away. In all the cases where I've heard the snort-wheeze, it came from the largest most aggressive buck in the area. I can physically set back and enjoy the show! During the snort wheeze, the buck will raise the hair on his back, turn broadside to show the smaller buck his size, and if that doesn't move the smaller buck out, he will charge! This is not something I've seen just once or twice, but multiple times with the same outcome. Sometimes the smaller buck will move out with a simple look from the larger buck, but sometimes a charge is inevitable.

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Dominance is relative. It depends on who's around. Don't think for one minute that a 2 1/2 won't breed a doe if he thinks he can get away with it.[:-]

If he knows a big guy's around, things will be different.

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Exactly right! Both bucks I killed this year weighed 140-145 lbs! I heard the snort-wheeze from both of these bucks before I put them down. They were both the most aggressive bucks in the area, in fact one of them had a split hoof and was limping, from so much aggressive chasing. I can guarantee that they were not the heaviest bucks in the area, but they were the most dominate due to their aggressive behavior!

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Thanks, Greg.

Personally, Greg....Are you gonna risk blowing a call....on the off chance the buck you're calling toKNOWS he's the baddest buck in the woods?

I won't be trying the call....just an interesting conversation.

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I would! That's the idea, you want to make him think a bad azz intruder has arrived in town and coax him into a shootout![:-]

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ok so i guess i got mixed up with a warning blow and a snort/wheeze i hear does make this warning sound. but i cannot tell a difference on the way they sound so explain to me.

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A "warning" blow is a very loud, usually one pitch sound that is done once or repeatedly. Kinda like Ppfffsss (there's no good way to spell a snort that I can think of). It is usually quite loud to alert other deer in the area that something is not right.

A snort wheeze(which I have heard in the wild...cool stuff)is a series of short quick inhale type noise followed by and exhale that last several seconds. If you hold you lips close together and inhale 3 kinda short times and then exhale until you're out of air...that's pretty close to the sound.

Can anyone explain it better?

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thats pretty well dead on. If you are hearing a deer blow at you all the time, move downwind :)

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Of the times I have heard it this year (4 0r 5) at least 3 were from the same Big 8. the other one or 2 were while rattleing and never seeing the deer. They were deffinatly not blows, and i have never heard that noise ever before this year. I have no problem beliveing that there are deer that never make that noise. The area I hunt is great as far as the mature buck to doe ratio.

Just gotta get my crap together and connect on one.........

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Like any type of call, the right buck in the right mood - yes, it will can them in.

We filmed a 2-1/2 year old snort weeze at a doe this year (that he was chasing). We also filmed a 4-1/2 snort weeze at a buck coming in to check out a hot doe that the big boy was defending. Counting those two "snort weezes", I think I've only heard it a total of maybe 6 times in 18 years of hunting.

We were lucky enough to see that 4-1/2 court a hot doe for 4-1/2 hours one day - all within 50 yards. He fended off probably a dozen bucks that afternoon, ended up bedding 30 yards from us with her, and finally breeding her about 40 yards from our stand. We burned something like 4-1/2 hours of footage in one hunt, and to this day - filming that encounter and the number of vocalizations that are that rare - was something of a dream come true. Can't wait to share it with yall....

If you want to snort weeze, you can duplicate the sound with you're mouth just as easy as any "call". For the record, all the snort weezes I've ever heard were so quiet you could barely hear them at 30 or 40 yards. Like any type of calling, the cover, distance the animal you're calling, and wind directions are all critical. I only call from "callable" stands, with good conditions.

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Hey tod, shedd some light on why deer were so much more vocal up here this year. I had never heard the snort/wheeze either till this year. I have yet to hear a "buck roar" but i am guessing i will in the future. After years of relative silence, why would they "Speak up" per say??

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Although I'm not a "hunting.net all-star" I pretty sure I know what I'm doing:DResults are results, personally I don't care what others hear, see or don't. I know what I have seen and heard. My comment wasn't just about the snort wheeze, it was a generalization about how people get on here and push the numbers of yrs they have hunted pretending to be an expert because they have killed a couple big deer. I kill big deer every year, because thats what I hunt. But the fact is, there are more people on this board pretending than there are "experts" And you can take that to the bank.

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i cant that property where i get busted a lot is only about 1 acre or so in a neighborhood but so far one of the best places to get deer with a bow. but i have to stay on the ground and cant make a big blind every other place i never get busted

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I believe the question was if anyone has used a snort wheeze and if they have had any luck using it. Everyone hunts different than everyone else. We all use different tricks to get the deer. We need to quit bickering amongst ourselves and worry about other things that are more important like protecting our right to hunt.

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You've been on this site for three months and you're qualified to make this statement!!???

How do you know?

I've been here for two years and I don't know who all ofthe pretenders are. I know a lot of solid hunters though and it took way more than 3 months to know who they were.

So, who's pretending here?

You say you kill big deer every year. How many? How many years? I may have seen one or two. What exactly are your qualifications and experiences that cause you to rank yourself as such an expert?

You may be a qualified expert, but I can't say if you are or you aren't. I haven't seen anything that verifies that you are. I don't know you.

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I could give two big ole poops how long you been on here "legend" It's the internet for god sakes!! I never said I was an expert. I said there are more pretenders on here than hunters. Prove me wrong on that. Like I said I'm not a numbers guy so I couldn't tell you how many deer I have killed in the 20 yrs I have been hunting. WOW there's a number for you guys. Deer hunting has been like a religion in my family ever since I can remember. Am I qualified yet "legend" or do I need more pictures?

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Dude...USAF.....

Heck...I don't have a dog in the fight....but I'd love to see your deer pictures!:)

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More pictures I love pictures.

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Oooohhhh, I know he didn't just call GregH a legend.[:-]

Dude Greg ain't dead and he ain't That old either. He's just that good![:-]


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LT ... it's his CAMO that's good .... not him ....;)

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Best post of the thread right there! And from a member with only 11 posts no less.

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You haven't been around here long enough to identify the pretenders from the hunters yet, poser. I don't have to prove you wrong, once you're here for a while you get to know who does what. The hunters share their stories and pictures, the pretenders don't.

Poser, one or two pics does not qualify you, maybe six or seven will give you a good start. Kind of hard to believe that you can't estimate how many big bucks you've killed, especially for ONLY hunting for twenty years. Keep trying though, you're skills are bound to improve. Once you've been here for a couple of seasons you'll be able to make qualified statements about seasoned hunters instead of calling their experiences ...horse crap.

Pretty insulting for a newbie to come on here and make such strong comments about people he doesn't even know, poser.

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Who would of thought that a snort wheeze thread would of brought up such an argument. I gotta say USAF that you've got a pair calling out the Site Buck Guru. He has forgotten more about deer hunting than most of us know.

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I am a pretender...

In my mere 12 years of bowhunting whitetails I have heard the snort-wheeze on several occasions (3 that I can think of now). And not all by dominant bucks. Most by 2 yr. olds in fact. And I've called in twice as many with the snort wheeze.

WKP Todd is correct.. they are not all that loud. Sometimes you really have to strain yourself to hear it. Even at 50 yards.. it can be tough.

I believe Justin and I even caught it on video this year. And Justin was in the tree with me when I snortwheezed at a solid 3.5 yr. old who came in from more than 150 yards out.

I've never heard a lion roar.. but I assume it does..[8D]

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I think you need a better attitude, then maybe pictures.....:D:D:D:D:D