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il coyote 12-26-2007 10:10 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
big rockpile, after reading you post I can't help but wonder, Was it worth it to make 'his' business, 'your' business?

nctaxi 12-26-2007 10:14 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
Well if he is braggin to you about it, he made it your business. I am glad not everyone looks the other way, we wouldn't have anything to hunt.

brucelanthier 12-26-2007 10:19 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: nctaxi

Well if he is braggin to you about it, he made it your business. I am glad not everyone looks the other way, we wouldn't have anything to hunt.
Exactly. Once they suck you in by telling you about it you are now part of it, whether you want to be or not. What you do once you are "part of it" is determined by who you are not who they are.

Rickmur 12-26-2007 10:23 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
GMMAT, befor I can answer your updated senerio, how do you know he killed 9 bucks? Heresay, did you see them, just what is it that makes you beleive this actually happened. And BTW in my last reply about you have too much time I forgot the smiley:D.

big rockpile 12-26-2007 10:30 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: il coyote

big rockpile, after reading you post I can't help but wonder, Was it worth it to make 'his' business, 'your' business?
Well I found out later he had tried to turn me in.I had a Buck in my Backyard,I wouldn't let him shoot it.So he called the Agent and told him I was Baiting.Well Agent came I showed him around.Seems the Guy considerd my Food Plots Baiting :D

big rockpile

MeanV2 12-26-2007 10:33 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
As a friend I would not turn him in. I would however warn him of the pitfalls of his actions. If he is breaking the Law that much he will get caught. Game violations anymore are no laughing matter. He could wind up losing his hunting rights for several years. For a Hunter that is severe punishment. Just imagine 5 years not able to Hunt Turkeys, Whitetails or any other Big Game. Not Funny!!

Dan

SevenMag 12-26-2007 10:35 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

As a friend I would not turn him in. I would however warn him of the pitfalls of his actions. If he is breaking the Law that much he will get caught. Game violations anymore are no laughing matter. He could wind up losing his hunting rights for several years. For a Hunter that is severe punishment. Just imagine 5 years not able to Hunt Turkeys, Whitetails or any other Big Game. Not Funny!!

Dan
kinda where i'm at with this there MeanV, I couldn't turn in a friend, i'd just warn him and let him know about my disapproval, if he ignores it, that's his problem, he'll get caught eventually and you wouldn't have to ~intervene~ and jeopardize havin him take retribution...

il coyote 12-26-2007 10:40 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
I see, big rock. Sounds like things were heading south anyway...

If a 'friend' starts bragging sbout beating his wife, or selling meth outside of a gradeschool that's one thing, but I just cant see it being worthgetting into a he said-he said barnstormer,having dogs killed(from earlier post) or risking harm to my family by turning a guyfor fracturing a few game laws in an area no where near where I may hunt.

Call me wierd, but it still aint my business.

farmcntry 12-26-2007 10:54 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
I've heard a few folks say, "Yep I got 6 bucks this year. All nice-uns." Should I turn them in? Um, no. Wouldn't waste the time 'cause I know they are lieing.

Any chance the guy you know who got "9 bucks" is full of mud?

GMMAT 12-26-2007 11:27 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
The man don't even eat venison (main culprit). That's the REALLY sad part. He kills them and gives the deer, whole, to his cohort and the rumor there is.....he's selling the venison to some local mexicans (who live in an adjacent trailer park).

Now.....just let me say.....the people that I have discussed this with ARE established friends of SOB poacher #2.......and they're just completely fed up with it.

Yes......they KNOW how many. They've been there when many of them have been skinned and butchered. This person is a 'friend' only in the definition that we hang out at the bow shop and shoot, occasionally, together. But to the people I'm talking about......they would be VERY surprised that this is getting out. But these guys "friends" are completely and utterly tired of being put on the spot by these guys' antics.

NOBODY wants to be associated with this type. Me included. I'll keep my distance.....BUT....I won't mince words if they wonder why I won't shoot with them anymore. I'll tell 'em, straight up.....I don't hang out with poaching SOB's.

statjunk 12-26-2007 11:36 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: tsoc

The poachers that Jeff described do not seem to be the low life unsavory ones that I am more familiar with.
Thinking things like this is what gets people killed. The wealthy commit just as much crime as the poor. The theshold is just higher since they are starting at a particular wealth. However people snap.

I don't know the statistics but I would bet most murders and extreme violence interactions are accomplished by friends/family.

The scenario about the dogs is exactly my point. What a pointless thing to have happend.

GMMAT,

I think you've chosen wisely.

Tom

my7pointmonster 12-26-2007 11:36 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
yeah. I prolly would let it go once or twice, but i would tell someone who i know would turn him in or drop an Annonymous letter off at the Game Comission Building.

Ryan.

GMMAT 12-26-2007 11:45 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
I must say, though....(and remember...I've only been deer hunting for a little less than 3 seasons).....I'm VERY surprised at the numbers in the poll.

il coyote 12-26-2007 11:46 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
Dang GMMAT, ya keep addin stuff to the equation. What are you going to tell us next, he beats his grandmother?:D

Each person has a line as to when turning a guy in(friend , or aquaintance) becomes WORTH IT.

Y'all be safe, I'm going goose hunting.:D

beprepn8 12-26-2007 11:48 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
It's funny but I bet that the majority of the 56% of us that voted no to the hypothetical would vote yes to the specific.

GMMAT should post names and addresses here and make the poll question even less hypothetical.

tsoc 12-26-2007 11:50 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
Statjunk,
I did not mean to imply in any way that someone's economic standing had any thing to do with this conversation.You chose to interpret it in a way that it was not intended.
There are as many lowlifes with money as there are without.

GMMAT 12-26-2007 11:51 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
bep.....

The numbers got WORSE (more "no" answers)as the entire scenario unfolded. THAT was interesting, too;)

PreacherTony 12-26-2007 11:58 AM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

bep.....

The numbers got WORSE (more "no" answers)as the entire scenario unfolded. THAT was interesting, too;)
I found that funny as well, Jeff. I thought when you specified the situatuion, the yes numbers would have stayed on top .......

Paul L Mohr 12-26-2007 12:11 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
The numbers on the poll probably have more to do with most don't read 10 pages of posts before they vote. They probably read the original and a few posts after it then voted what they thought. I know I didn't read every post in this thread and didn't know there was an updated version either.

Say what you want to say right from the get go and this type of stuff doesn't happen;)

Paul

MeanV2 12-26-2007 12:13 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

The numbers on the poll probably have more to do with most don't read 10 pages of posts before they vote. They probably read the original and a few posts after it then voted what they thought. I know I didn't read every post in this thread and didn't know there was an updated version either.

Say what you want to say right from the get go and this type of stuff doesn't happen;)

Paul
100% True!!:D

Dan

Arthur P 12-26-2007 12:16 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

Say what you want to say right from the get go and this type of stuff doesn't happen
Kinda hard to do that, Paul,when you ask a black and white question to start off and people start inventing varying shades of gray area in order to rationalize their 'no' responses.

GR8atta2d 12-26-2007 12:18 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
and sometimes people vote the opposite, just to keep things interesting....and then theminority becomes the majority and they are stuck in the avalanche...



buttonbuckmaster 12-26-2007 12:22 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


Say what you want to say right from the get go and this type of stuff doesn't happen
Kinda hard to do that, Paul,when you ask a black and white question to start off and people start inventing varying shades of gray area in order to rationalize their 'no' responses.
Or add more to the story to get more "yes" votes.

SevenMag 12-26-2007 12:37 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


Say what you want to say right from the get go and this type of stuff doesn't happen
Kinda hard to do that, Paul,when you ask a black and white question to start off and people start inventing varying shades of gray area in order to rationalize their 'no' responses.
wait, no varying shades of white to justify the yes responses?? seems to me like there are plenty of those as well...

GMMAT 12-26-2007 12:40 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

no varying shades of white to justify the yes responses
AKA- the truth

SevenMag 12-26-2007 12:43 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


no varying shades of white to justify the yes responses
AKA- the truth
ah, so the anaolgies about turning in your friends for speeding and etc have equal weight??

Charlie P 12-26-2007 12:49 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

The numbers got WORSE (more "no" answers)as the entire scenario unfolded. THAT was interesting, too;)
You ever think people pull up the first post vote and then read through the thread?

Charlie P 12-26-2007 01:02 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
So what are you going to do if this is a true story what have you decided?

358WINMAN 12-26-2007 02:56 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
No, I would not turn him in. However, our hunting relationship would be over.

early in 12-26-2007 03:22 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

THIS SEASON ALONE......one has taken NINE (limit is TWO).

Now....does THIS change your mind(s)?

Damn right it does!! Hisa$$ would be turned in without hesitation!! I'm no dime dropper, but that is sickening.[:'(][:'(] WAY overboard!! A call wouldbe made!!

guide1 12-26-2007 03:41 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
First of if I were hunting to put food on the table I wouldn't be bragging about takin' 9 bucks and second you don't go out just lookin for bucks either. You're going to drop whatever crosses your path, does, rabbits, squirrels in your backyard etc... If this guys is shooting and selling them and makin' a profit off of it turn his butt over to the IRS they come knockin' quicker than the game warden.:DOn a serious note though I would make a call to the Warden, why then should you know what he is doing a let him get away with it. Make it annonymous!!!

early in 12-26-2007 04:17 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
I met a guy at this State Park whereI hunt and we became hunting buds, not real "friends" so to speak. Anyway, last year he took 2 bucks, the limit isone. I mentioned to him that he really should kill just 1 buck, like the lawprovides. I didn't want to turn him, I don't really even "know" this guy that well.He continued talking about taking a second buck this season as well.[:@]Thatwas it, he's just not getting it! When he calls, I don't even pick up the phone. He'll get the picture sooner or later.I prefer not to keep company with people like this.

dprsdhunter 12-26-2007 06:49 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
Actually I have been in this situation. And no , I didnot turn him in. Why--guess because he was afriend,plus he was my access to some hunting land. I since have quit hunting with him and wont again .I was told by others that the game warden was watching him ,but never could catch him and I do know that he has been kicked off alot of the places he used to hunt.

bigcountry 12-26-2007 08:14 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
This post really shows how warped the world is. People are so lost in the details, they forget about a person, or thier lives or thier jobs. People have so much extra time on thier hands, they have time to think what they would do in this situation. Some people need to get a life.

Sniper151 12-26-2007 08:16 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
He would get one warning and if that personcontinue to violate the game laws I would turn him in and not give it a second thought. A mistake is one thing, but when someoneintentionally breaks thegame law time after time to score he isn't a hunter or sportsman. The actions of this kind of turd is a negative reflection on those who obey the game laws andinvest time and moneyto harvest game. [:@]

8pt~Bowhunter 12-26-2007 08:18 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

Depending on how severe the violation is. I'd probably give him a good talking to the first time I found out about it if it was something like not checking in. If he kept doing it repeatedly or was poaching, then he's no friend of mine. Yes. I'd turn him in.
x2

TommyGunn 12-26-2007 08:41 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
some of my "friends" were riding around shooting deer at night and i didn't call them in BUT i know one of the wardens and told him a road they should set up on and one of them got caught. anything other then shooting deer at night im not going to say anything. why get a friendin trouble just because they dont tag a deer.

WesternMdHardwoods 12-26-2007 09:08 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 

ORIGINAL: SevenMag

sorry man, i couldn't turn in a friend... my friends are way more important to me than any deer will ever be... if the deer are more important than your friends i seriously think you need to reevaluate your priorities... that said, i'd give him a serious talkin to, no doubt, i don't want him gettin busted or breakin the law... fortunately I know none of my friends would do that anyway, but if they did I surely wouldn't be the one callin up the GW... i play by the rules and i expect my friends to also, but i'm not gonna run outta the woods yellin "cheater cheater" the Ref either...

turning in a friend violates the Man Laws somehow doesn't it??? kinda like tellin his g/f he's gettin some on the side...


Wow couldnt have said it any better myself!!

Arrowmaster 12-26-2007 09:22 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
Nope I wouldnt turn my friend (buddy) in...

WV Hunter 12-26-2007 10:33 PM

RE: Would you turn him in?
 
For me it would really depend on the entire situation. I know guys that shoot more than their share, always have and probably always will. I don't condone it or hunt with them...but if they want to play that game and take the chance, that is their deal. I don't really consider them "friends" in the true aspect of a friend....but at the same time I have way more important things to worry about than turning them in. If you do decide to turn them in....you had better do it anonymously. Some people are nuts, and dealing with that certainly isn't worth it - not over a deer.
Don't get me wrong...some folks certainly need to have the law called on them and they deserve it. Heck, some folks deserve the slammer for a long time for the crap they do....and some folks, well IMO its just not that big ofa deal - not big enough for me to get involved. The guys I know....they don't road hunt, they don't trespass (only hunt their own land), and they don't hunt out of season. They just don't tag all their deer, and usually shoot an extra buck or two each season.
I have called the law before a few times....just pick your battles wisely is all I'm sayin.



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