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burniegoeasily 12-11-2007 09:39 AM

Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Yep, its a popcorn post. Im feeling froggy this morning. Ive been seeing post after post about how unethical it is to shoot a young deer because HE could grow a bigger rack later. Does are not treated the same way. Ive seen some take pot shots at someone for shooting doe, or for shooting smaller bucks. So, is it more ethical to hunt an animal for the purpose of putting HIM on the wall, or to hunt an animal for the purpose of utilizing the animal as sustenance ?


Let the games begin


Bols 12-11-2007 09:40 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
This might just reach 30 pages.

farmcntry 12-11-2007 09:41 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
meat

bawanajim 12-11-2007 09:42 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I don't know if its so much ethics, I find it to be more about egos.

Maryland_Whitetail 12-11-2007 09:43 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I hunt for meat....butI love anice rack!!!:D

virginiashadow 12-11-2007 09:45 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
"I hunt for meat....butI love anice rack!!!"

That was my war cry after college partys!!! :)

Hooker 12-11-2007 09:45 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

I don't know if its so much ethics, I find it to be more about egos.
X2

NCRemington700 12-11-2007 09:45 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: Maryland_Whitetail

I hunt for meat....butI love anice rack!!!:D
I couldn't have said it better myself!

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GMMAT 12-11-2007 09:50 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I target ANY female deer.....for the sake of herd mgmt. Period.

I target specific criteria in bucks....because I want to.

I eat or donate every animal I kill. So there are no ethical conundrums in what I do.

HuntingBry 12-11-2007 09:51 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I'm not even going to vote. This poll is just another attempt to stir the pot, so I'll just grab some popcorn and sit back and enjoy the show.



farmcntry 12-11-2007 09:52 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

Um, I think this is going to cause a bit of an "uproar".

Shooting young deer is not unethical, if you make a good shot. I mean, if you're starving and you shoot a young deer, you shot a young deer.


What? I must be reading that wrong.
So how young is young? 2 1/2? 3 1/2? 6 months?

rybohunter 12-11-2007 09:52 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Both/Neither.

Unless it is anuisance critter, if you shoot something you should eat it/use itor give it to someone who will, whether it carries some sort of trophy quality or not.

There. End of debate.

mobow 12-11-2007 09:52 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I say see deer shoot deer. And of top of that, I say do it w/ the lightest, fastest arrow you can find!

Monie 12-11-2007 10:02 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
It's more ethical to shoot "deer" for herd balance. :)

On long trips, for big game, my family never brought home the rack. It was too heavy for the pack out and you can't eat it.

Jimimac 12-11-2007 10:06 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Shoot what makes you happy. There isn't anything unethical about either scenario presented in the poll.

HAZCON7 12-11-2007 10:11 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

There isn't anything unethical about either scenario presented in the poll.
I can think of some unethical things, but the 2 in the poll are not in the list.

burniegoeasily 12-11-2007 10:41 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

I don't know if its so much ethics, I find it to be more about egos.
Good point. I have seen, thoughout the years, people refer to this matter as a matter of ethics. That is why i posted it. Im curious to see where it all goes.


Yes, I posted a read along for myself. :D

burniegoeasily 12-11-2007 10:44 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

Both/Neither.

Unless it is anuisance critter, if you shoot something you should eat it/use itor give it to someone who will, whether it carries some sort of trophy quality or not.

There. End of debate.
You would think. Im inclined to say as much. But the term gets thrown out there all the time about being unethical for shootingyoung bucks but nothing said about shooting young doe. Ive even seen a person on this board call someone unethical for shooting a young buck, then turn around and say they only shoot young doe. Go figure.:eek:

_Dan 12-11-2007 10:44 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Just think, only 10 more months of these threads. [&:]

brucelanthier 12-11-2007 10:47 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I hunt according to my ethics, not anyone else's ;).

HAZCON7 12-11-2007 10:49 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I dunno Dan, I think its a better topic than showing pictures of acorns or bloody fingers.

JoeRE 12-11-2007 10:56 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Is everyone on pms? Did the Man dillute everyone's medication? Oh, thats right, its no longer deer season[8D]

Seriously tho--ethics are personal. Standards can be decided on throughout a culture, but there are still, and should be,always small differences on an individual level. This makes the debate irrelevent as everyone can be right on this 'small' topic.

And anyone who doesnt agree with me on this topicis unethical. No debate, its just the truth and you will have to accept it.

archer58 12-11-2007 10:57 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I target ANY female deer.....for the sake of herd mgmt. Period.

I target specific criteria in bucks....because I want to.

I eat or donate every animal I kill. So there are no ethical conundrums in what I do.
DITTO !!!
I don't donate any meat though. There's always someone in the family who wants a steak or two.

burniegoeasily 12-11-2007 11:12 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: _Dan

Just think, only 10 more months of these threads. [&:]
Yep, or at least until the point is made.;)

Hunter Dan7 12-11-2007 01:50 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: Maryland_Whitetail

I hunt for meat....butI love anice rack!!!:D
I agree 100%

buttonbuckmaster 12-11-2007 03:26 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
You know, before I joined a couple of hunting websites in 02/03, I never heard anyone mention the word ethics in regards to hunting. If you hunted by the rules, you were a hunter. If you didn't, you were a poacher. Now it seems that everything is up for debate. I say do what you enjoy and forget what others think.[&:]

Rhody Hunter 12-11-2007 05:05 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
i prefer shooting does because i go for the meat

switchback hunter 12-11-2007 05:26 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
can't eat the horns

Arrowmaster 12-11-2007 05:53 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
If I shoot it I eat it. But I only want mature bucks. I dont shoot fawns. I say let em grow up...

davidmil 12-11-2007 06:08 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
No popcorn on this one. At 47-5 in favor of meat at this point... I'd say the verdict is already in.

Schultzy 12-11-2007 06:43 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
Shooting young deer isn't unethical. Shooting just trophy's isn't unethical. Shooting doe's or fawns isn't unethical. There all ethical in my opinion! I'm a trophy hunter myself. I won't shoot ayoung buck for meat, i'll shoot a doe for that reason. If a person wants to shoot asmall buckfor meat, I have no problem with that,more power to them. That same person though better not be complaing that theres no big guys around!Taking stupid shots at animals, now thats totally unethical!!!!

AR Bowhunter 12-11-2007 06:49 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
How can one be more ethical than the other, they are both legal an are nothing more than a preference. If, you want meat shoot does. If you want a rack shoot a buck an get meat too.No need to shoot small bucks for meat alone. Think about the future.

Carpmaster 12-11-2007 07:12 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
It is Ok to hunt big bucks BUT IMO it sucks when vegetarians do this or people whom do not/will not eat wild meat. If you dont like the way it tastes find a new hobby!

janesburg 12-11-2007 07:12 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I have known some guys that claim to be a buck hunter and won't shoot a doe.Thats fine, but they will shoot a basket buck first chance they get. Whats the difference between the doe and the small buck? The antlers!!

Think about how many times you have heard the phrase "it was just a doe"

Shoot whatever makes you happy as long as its legal.But don't try and pass yourself off as a "big bad buck hunter" Somebody already said it.....its a macho thing.



treboryerf 12-11-2007 07:25 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
OK;here's my take on the subject.First of all we all live in a world where we really don't have to hunt for your food any longer and and if you use the old I hunt to put meat on the table line then your just full of it,with that said I do like the taste of deer and kill them becaue I want to not because I need to.This does not make me unethical,my personel preference is to shoot does( both young and old for meat and I tend to lean toward the smaller does when i am going for meat for myself) I choose to only shoot an older class of bucks,not necessarily trophies in everyones eyes but they do it for me and that is after all why I hunt for my enjoyment not others.If this makes me unethical in the eyes of others so be it I sleep good at night.As long as hunters kill in an human way and don't waste the meat and show respect for the animal then I have no problem with the way they choose to hunt and what they choose to kill.That is what makes hunting so great,some like the hunt,some just want the horns and some just want the meat and there is room for all of us to hunt the way we like as long as it is legal.Steve had some great remarks in his reply,if you shoot the young bucks then don't bitch about there not being any big boys around.Don't knock another hunter for shooting a legal deer either just because you might not happen to agree with his choice, we all have different views and they are not limited to hunting.If everyone was the same then we would only need one brand of bow,imagine that.

bigtim6656 12-11-2007 07:26 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
i think it is more eithical if you hunt for the love of the sport and not just for meat ro antlers but i hate it when people pu down people to shooting a small animal or being a little to far we need to all lossen up and enjy the greatest sport on the earth

my7pointmonster 12-11-2007 08:01 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
I cant stand people who waste deer Because they only wanted the Antlers off them.

Meat all the way.

Ryan.

grneyemonstr 12-11-2007 10:13 PM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

Both/Neither.

Unless it is anuisance critter, if you shoot something you should eat it/use itor give it to someone who will, whether it carries some sort of trophy quality or not.

There. End of debate.
That just about sums it up for me.

Rickmur 12-12-2007 02:40 AM

RE: Peeing contest about ethics.
 
This is a no brainer. Its more ethical to hunt an animal just for the meat. Now the question is how many do it;)


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