Banning shooting in city limits
 

I thought some may be interested in this story.

http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1574877.html

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Thanks for the link. I hate this stuff.

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Interesting article. I can see where both sides are coming from.

I think the found a good solution. If there is a safe place to shoot then they can. If not, then they will have to shoot elsewhere.

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Mike I will disagree, it's absurb.

People die everyday from Cars, Smoking, etc and nobody does a thing. I had to become president of our soccer league to get them to banned smoking at our games. These same council members will allow people to smoke it front of our kids. Second hand smoke is a killer and has been proven to kill people. Archery done correctly will not hurt a fly, unless he's in a ten ring.[:-]

I will believe towns are concearned about public safty when they put a banned on public smoking;) Until than, they are all just blowing smoke IMO

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Yeah, i can see where your coming from Germ. Im just thinking if i lived in a small neighborhood and had a small kid playing in the back yard i wouldnt want some teenagers next door shooting bows anywhere close to my kid.

Thats kind of the extreme i guess...i cant imagine it causing problems. Why couldnt the neighbor go talk to the people next door and make sure they were shooting in a safe direction...its not something where the police or city really needs to be involved...

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i can also see both sides of it for one if you miss and we all do you mightgo through someones wall and i know it is a bow but if it wil go through animal it will go through a 1/2 piece of osb fi there lucky some insulantion and 1/2 of drywall i put one through a 4 inch limp one day or you might hit a car or someones kid


but also i can see if soemone has only there back yard the need to shoot there but most backyard are what maybe 10 yards by 15 if your lucky

i was going to shoot in my yard legel to here i think but i can only get about 15 yards and that is if i am at my garage which would catch a lost arrow and if i am on the property line i did not wont to risk it so i don't


and i saw where in i think ky on opening day of gun season a bullet went through this guys house in town

there already trying to get the no shoot law taken from city limits out farther

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also t sounded like te guy was telling someone something was illegal that was not when he had no idea of it

my guest is he is anti gun and anti hunting

if i saw a neighbor shooting and if no one was out side i would not care f i had kids out there i would ask them nicely if they would hold of for a bit while the kids play

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I wonder how many injuries have been caused by stray arrows? If there has been a lot, I could see a need for this law. Which we could only blame on those ingrates who do not insure they are free of anything behind their target. If there is not any documented cases of stray arrow accidents, then this law is just stupid.

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I agree with Germ!! How about focusing on real health and safty issue's.How many people died last year of smoking.How many died being shot with a arrow?????Or is this just someones way to get at hunters hmmmmmmm.

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If taught correctly I do not see a problem. How about some of these teenagers driving next to your kids? Funny we seem to have an acceptable tolerance for things that kill people.

Cars driving without resonsiblity is an "Accident", with a lot times the driver getting behind the wheel again. Someone shooting a bow in a target is considered a public saftey concearn[&:] We have people driving around with mutlple DUI in townships, but hey lookfor the guy with the bowtech[&:] My all time favorite is PETAFILES, but hey our kids can go to thearpy.

As Stossel says "Gimmie a break"

Sorry Mike not ranting at you, this topic burns my butt.

EDIT:
I have no issues with folks smoking, just don't do it around my kids;)

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Oh, no prob Germ.

I just hadnt thought it through completely. You make very sound points.

Im studying and my brain isnt functioning properly [8D]

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Therein lies the problem, Germ ..... most aren't ....

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As much as I hate to say this, your scenario doesn’t work. In many cases, teen driving is a necessity. Shooting a bow is not.

Like I posted, I’d like to see stats and documented accounts of stray arrow injuries before I jumped on any ban wagon. Dont think I am supporting this, just wont scream foul until i see documentation. I, as a bow hunter for over 25 years, have been put out by teenagers next door shooting at hay bails up agianst my fence. I use to fined holes all in my fence as well as arrows in my back yard. If I had kids at the time, idbe worried aboutwreckless people shooting a weapon in the direction of where mykids play. Its the ingrates that will ruin it for all us good folks.

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You said it easier than I.;)

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Burnie I agree about the not being taught correctly, and what they hell did we do before cars:D

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Haha Germ...i just realized you are a Spooning Specialist

...i mean, i knew you were, but didnt know it was official! haha :D

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But

When we start to punsihed the masses for few morons, it's a slippery slope IMO. People use guns wrong, should we banned them also?

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damn Admins, I feel violated, hey I like it

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x2

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So why not let them shoot guns, Germ ......sorry ...... If I lived in the city, I'd suck it up and let my kids be safe .....

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Sad to say, our society has created a situation where people got to get from place to place. We dont live within the confines of walking, as in the pre-car days. My worry about this is the ingrates will ruin it for all us. I dont have to worry, I live in the country, but it will really suck if the idiots of our society ruin bow shooting for those in the city.

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I agree, but the sad thing is, government has been put in a situation to where it has got to protect us from ourself. Or I should say from the idiots of society. And yes, its a slippery slop that is getting even worse with the liberal movement that is going to side with the few to punish the masses. The good old days are gone.

I tell you the answer. When parents get in trouble for not parenting, then things will change. As long as we suffer crappy parents, this crap will happen.

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All valid points, Germ. Unfortunately, all it takes is one idiot shooting arrows all over the neighborhood to cause an uproar. Remember, we are a society that pays no attention where we are driving while we try to see what happened to the last idiot that paid no attention where he was driving. Don't try to make sense of it.

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With a wife as a teacher I could not agree more. I think you hit the nail on the head. Will you run for President? Wait the last one from Texas was not so hot[8D]

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Lol. Yep, or record on presidents has not been hot. LBJ is even questionable.

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It's all part of the downfall of morality in society ..... it'll never get better .... only worse ... Dr. Spock is an IDIOT!!!

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Tony as a servant of the lord, I will fight for morality in the name of the big guy;) I refuse to let them win

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There is a lot of truth in that. I have been teaching and running a science dept. for 15+ years, and I can attest to the fact our kids are progressively getting worse each year. No respect for anything. And of course im speaking of the majority.There are still many from good parents, who are respectful. I am so feed up with it all.Kids are never at fault anymore. Its always someone elses fault. This is ingrained in the kids, they know it, and are smart enough to use it. Add to this, the fact most parents dont parent and always place the blame on everyone but their ingrate child.

In the words of Neil Pert
"Blame is easier to give than recieve."

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After dealing with twoparents at my wifes school it's a good thing I am not a teacher, LOL

I looked right at the Principle, "This is why my children go to private school, so they do not have to deal with kids like her or her parents"

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I understand fully.

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I know in my subdivision it is illegal to shoot my bow, but considering my house backs up to hundreds of acres of woods I shoot anyway. I think it's BS to have this kind of rule. I can see if there are houses behind mine or children played back there, but this is not the case. A kid that lives up the street actually got the cops called on him once and they threatened to take away his bow if he did it again. Luckily noone has said anything to me about shooting.

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I know our schools and teacher can teach. Like you said, parentshave failed a lot of kids. I really do think this is my wifes last year as a teacher. It has been a rough year:(

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You betcha .... you should know by now, I'm a front line soldier ....i'll fight for the cause of Christ .. aka .. morality ....... ultimately ... they will lose in a big way ..... right now, they are losing in the God loving homes of America ...... but for the most part, schools, government, society in a whole, has chucked out the very foundation this country was built on .... that foundation was The Lord Jesus Christ ..... the definer of morality ....

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You are right on, Bernie ....... check out the timeline and the adoption of Spock's theology ....... also the legalization of abortion .... the 60's and 70's rebellions against authority .... man I can go on and on

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Your preaching to the choir. I agree. Im very blessed to have my kids in a small rual school. This school still prays before peprallies, games, etc.. even though "we are not suppose to". And the sup tells me, "we will keep on until they come and shut the doors.".

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It's good to know those places still exist.

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small rural schools arenot always the bst i grow up going to a sall rual school and would not wish anyone had to go through the crap i did

but i would never ed my kids to schoolor even live in a big city

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You make a great point[&:]

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I break the law almost every time I shoot my bow. It is illegal to shoot a bow within the city limits here. I don't feel I should have to drive twenty minutes and pay $15 to shoot my bow. In all the time I've lived here I haven't once missed my 2'X2' target at the 20 yards my back yard allows. I've got a good backstop if for some reason I do miss, but it hasn't happened yet.

My neighbors know I shoot. Their children know I shoot. I know not to shoot if the kids are out back playing. They know not to come outside and make a bunch of noise if they see I'm out shooting. We all have an understanding.

Perhaps its because of how I was raised, but if someone is responsible about what they're doing there wouldn't be a problem IMO.

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ok, now where i live its a tiny lot, i have to shoot in my pool patio into the fence yard that is like 20x5 feet big, with a deer target, and i shoot at the begginng of the patio so i have 10-15 yards max, nothing has ever happend, i think they should get the drunks and drugies and the dumb illigals of our streets before the pick on the ones who are law abiding and doing something that isnt going to kill someone.