Do you all see your arrow hit and how??
 

Aloha All and Happy thanksgiving ,
Can you all see your arrow durring the shot? Is something wrong with me?? I only see where my arrow hits once its stuck in something. Any ideas or responses would be great.
Mahalo
P.T.

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I use white feathers, usually 2 white and a brown and white mixed. you cant miss em, good for that low light min.It's also good for checking blood or stomach matter on your arrow after the shot. usually whenI shootI follow thru until the arrow hits, with the white feathers it helps alot.

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I shoot 2 red and one white vane with a white nock. I always see my arrow hit (or, most of the time, disappear) in the animal. You just watch the spot you're aiming for, and use brighter colors for your fletching.

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I used a Lumenock this year and you could see the arrow in flight half way to the deer and then impact and pass through. But you really want to make sure not to peek around the bow to see the arrow fly. Keep your eye on the spot you aimed for, until it hits.

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I shoot with both eyes open and can usually see my arrow's fight when shooting at the range, 30 yards or more. I have made some bad shots this season trying to see where my arrow was going to hit. I did not follow through and actually pulled the bow down to see if my arrow hit it's mark. I'm not going to worry about it anymore though. I used to trust myself and not worry about seeing the arrow in flight. Don't get into a bad habit just trying to see your arrow! It will only cause you frustration and heartache.

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When shooting short distances I don't see it in flight, shooting longer I do. Make sure you are concentrating on the spot you aimed at, not looking for the arrow.

When hunting, I usually see it hit the deer, but it's not what you really think it looks like. I shoot flo orange nocks and what I tend to see is a VERY brief splash of color on the tan/brown aiming spot in the chest, just a flash then its gone cause the arrow passed through. I even saw this flash on an elk I shot at 4 yards.

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If you have decent eye sight, proper follow through and aiming you should be able to see the arrow go all the way to the target.

You should still be concentrating on aiming after the arrow hits the target. You may have a problem with dropping your bow arm or trying to peek around your bow when you shoot to see where it hits. If you do things right you don't need to do this.

Same thing applies to rimfire rifles. I can usually see the bullet travel to the target through my scope.

Paul

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I have never seen my arrow hit a deer. Bad eyes I guess.

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Your not doinganything wrong! Some people see them and some don't. Some times it depends on the color's your using on your fletching and nocks weather or not you may see them.

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Luminocks, or any lighted nock, I would neverNOT use one after shooting 4 deer with them this year and a few last year. Even when target shooting you can see how the arrow is traveling, and they last for hours, at least mine do. Ihave opened my bow case in the morning and found a few lit up over night still glowing bright. I get many hours use of most of them. Occasionally one only lasts a shorter time but still worth it to me by a big margin.

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They don't make a lumenick for a/c/c's.....or I'd be using them. In the past two years....I've killed 13 whitetails....MOST on shots 15yds or less. I have never seen the fletchings hit the deer. I have seen a hole open up on the deer....but I've never seen the sletchings make contact. I shoot 3 white fletchings with a 6" white reflective wrap. I have probably hit (including follow-up shots) a deer with an arrow.....close to 20 times. Never seen the fletchings make contact.

I shoot a 3/8" peep with both eyes open.

There's NOTHING wrong with you;):D

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YUP, sometimes I see it but usually only on longer shots. I'm like GMMAT, I see more holes appear than arrows fly. If you're picking the hair you probably wpn't see a lot of arrows fly. At home in the yard in nice light is one thing, in a pine thicket or deep shadows or changes from shadows to sunlight you'll rarely see them. I listen more for the TWACK than anything. TWACK is a beautiful thing.

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Jeff, if you are shooting the 3-60, and remove the uni bushing, lumenocks work perfect.

I see my arrow fly, and I see my arrow impact. But what I learned this year is that it DOES NOT impact where I thought it did.

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Shootin' 3-71's.

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i shoot 2 green and 1 orange Blazer on my arrows with orange nocks. also shot 2 green and 1 white before that...

weather its target shooting or hunting, i can watch my arrow fly and watch it impact whatever it hit...it wa amazing watching the broadhead open the hole on my buck this year and watching the arrow sink through and disappear..

i shoot with both eyes open and "follow through"..dont move anything..release the arrow and keep everything still and try to watch the arrow...its there...you dont have to peek to see it..both eyes open and youll find it...i can even stand behind my buddies and watch their arrows fly...

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You must have great vision or your arrows are flying at 20 FPS. lol.

I've been shooting both eyes open for many years and can't see my arow in flight regardless of fletching/nock color. You actually saw the broadhead open? You are kidding right?

Edit...

Read slower Jim. The guy said he saw the hole open up.

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I shoot with a big yellow/white fade wrap and 5 inch chartruse feathers...Almost all of the time I can see it fly and impact.

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For all you guys that say you don't see your arrow hit the deer............do you see your arrow hit a target when you shoot 3D or paper??

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Do I see it IN the target? Yeah. Do I see it HIT the target? Nope. I think if the deer would stand still (ike the target) I might "think" I saw it impact. In reality....my bow's shooting 300fps and at 15yds I can't see it impact. I "think" I can at longer yardages on a 3D animal.....but it's probably just "appearing" there.....and I "think" I see impact.

I've killed enough deer, now.....to KNOW I don't see the impact. Never have. I remember seeing a hole open up on ONE doe's back. I've never seen the fletchings/vanes make impact in 13 deer (+). I
ve always thought......if my arrow is flying true.....I should only see the nock and maybe" the back side of the fletchings as they spin.

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Lumenok and if you followthoughyou should be able to see you arrow. the lumenok works VERY well!!:D

Mat

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X2!

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seeing the arrow hit is very important. It' your follow-through. Don't peek though just keep the bow up and your eye on the target!

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i have two green and a white quikspins i plan to change colors because both i times i miss i could not see the arrow in the ground because of the color blending in but when i was shooting inside i coulda litt but they mve so fast i do not see a need to ant like you can change the arrows flight when it is flying

unless your magnito

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Exactly...........anyone who isn't seeing their arrows hit has a poor follow through........looking at the deer, instead of aiming the bow.

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You damned right I'm .

I keep my eyes glued to the spot I wanna hit.....instead of "Aiming the bow". My pin is in my peripheral....and my target is in my eyesight, front and center.

Just because someone else doesn't do it the way you THINK you do......they have "poor" mechanics?

Rich.....:D

Here's some lines form a thread I did on this exact topic a few months ago.....

Rybo - when I am in the yard I see every shot except the very close ones, the bow is too quick. On a deer I see more than half of the shots by the fletchings. If I don't see them, then typically I see the hole or tuft of fur. Then on some occasions I don't really know at all. I think a lot depends on lighting and bow speed. My bow isn't blazing, that's whyI think I see most except for the very closest shots.

Bobco – (Who shoots Trad) - I don't always see the fletching, but I do usually see the impact of the shot since my only focus is on the spot I want to hit.

Mikey S. (Commenting on Bobco’s response) - This is proper shot execution. Focus on your spot. Ifa guy is trying to watch hisarrows, he'sinviting problems into the equation.

I very rarely see the fletchings. For hunting, I like to use 2 whites on my arrows, mostly to help find them after impact. And I still don't see them in flight. I sometimes catch a flash of the fletcings as they pass through the animal, but not becasue I look for it,it just happens. In all honesty, if a buddy asks me where I hit a deer after I shot it, I can usually describe the shot and POI within a couple inches of where it actually hit. I base this on where my pin was sitting on the animal when the release goes off. We often decide on when to track it based on our own shot assesments.

GMMAT - That’s pretty much the way I see it. I can tell you exactly where the impact on the animal was…..but I can’t tell you unequivocally that I saw the impact. I’ve now killed deer from: 19yds, 10yds, 22yds, 7yds, 33yds, 27yds, 7yds, 20yds, 10yds, 10yds, 14yds, 10yds, 20yds.

I have ONCE seen the hole open up. I talked to Rob/PA about this just last night. Rob’s one of the most accomplished archers I know……and he told me he sees impact about half the time (hole open)……and the other half he just “knows” where impact is.

I’ll buy that.

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98% of the time I see the arrow or the nock dissapear through the deers hair. That's how I know where I hit. Sometimes, in lower light conditions, I see the hole in the deer. In the rare occurances that I don't see the hit, I've done something wrong. It's all about your follow through. Keeping your pin on the target until after impact. No matter what, you're looking at the deer but more importantly you should be looking at a very small part of the deer. The exact part you want to hit. If you do this correctly, you'll see the point of impact.

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two way street for me, sometimes i see it hit, looks like slow motion, and sometimes not at all. i think alot depends on the amount of daylight vs low light situations.

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Instead of making blanket statements concerning follow through or lack there of, couldn'tit just be that some folks see better than others.I can't see the BB flying out of my kids Red Rider either, but he does...

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I see mine hit usually. Right when I see it hit I try to take a mental snapshot and then stare at the deer after the hit to see how it reacts, obviously looking at the entrance/exit wound. I usually can see my arrow right before it hits.

shadow

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I usually concentrate so hard on the actual shot that I don't see my arrow in flight, but I see the arrows impact. Shot an 8 pt2wednesdays agoand when the deer came by he looked straight up at me at 15 yds. I did'nt move just remained as still as possible. Well the deer started stepping backwards and I knew this was probably going to be over pretty quick. I waited and the buck turned and took several bounds away from me and at the same time I drew my Bowtech Allegiance and hoped this buck would stop. He did and was broadside but my pin was shaking all over his vitals. I had to tell myself to calm down and take the death grip off thehandle and when I did the pin quit shaking. I then took my time taking the shot(28 yds)and placed the arrow in the crease behind his shoulder. Only went 50 yds. As I think back to this kill I did not see my arrow in fright but I did see the impact. Sometimes I get in a zone and am on autopilot and things just happen automatically. I'm not contiouslly looking for it but I do see my arrow in fright sometimes but not always. With bright fletching(white) you can see it if it's not to dark. Just make sure you don't pull your bow away to see the arrow because this will cost you in the accuracy department. Sorry for being so long winded but I sometimes like to draw a picture with my reply.

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I don't know about you guys.....but once I pick a spot on the deer....my pin is incosequential.

How fast are your bows?

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The pin is what I aim with, very important for me. If the pin is not on what I hope to hit, whether my main focus is on the pin or the target, I won't hit what I'm aiming at. My hunting bow shoots @275 fps.

For the most part my main foucus is on the target, sometimes I switch, but the pin still comes into play. Very much so. I've shot a lot of indoor competition, scope and pin. My best shots had my mind thinking that I saw the arrow drop into the target right where my pin was.....Through the peep sight! We know that that is impossible. It shows how much concentration on aiming occured during those shots. It's like hitting the perfect shot in golf or baseball, the sweet spot.

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So you said nothing to change the way I feel, Greg. Once my eye's focus is on the target (your eye can NOT focus on the target and the pin at the same time).....my pin becomes inconsequential. It's inconsequential.....but it is on the target ('course....you knew that). I don't take my focus from the pin to the target UNTIL the pin's where I want it. Youlikely do the same thing.

And yes.....what you describe is impossible. You're imagining it. Many, I think, imagine seeing their fletchings make contact, as well.

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I'll buy that.

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This pretty much describes what I see when I shoot a deer.

I don't think I have ever shot an animal and not noticed where the arrow hit

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Duh...... Can anybody?;)

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I played some pretty competitive baseball in my day.....playing on the DI collegiate level. I was a catcher....and saw my fair share of pitches come to the plate over my 4 yrs. The general consensus in baseball is that batter can pick up the rotation and see the seams on differing pitches. All "great hitters" are supposed to be able to do this.

I don't buy it. I could see a rotation of the seams on certain pitches.....and to be honest....that's all the human eye can discern. I believe what we want to be true and what IS true is sometimes a little different.;)

That's my opinion. I wonder what the MPH of the fletching/nock is on a 15 yd shot (somebody do the math). Now I wonder what the actual time the fletchings are on the surface of the skin of the deer (POI). Call me a skeptic.

I don't doubt we "think" we see this. That's absolutely plausible.

Someone asked about whether we see the arrow make impact with a 3D animal. Well.....considering the fletchings never make contact (actually don't come within 2' of the target).....what are you actually supposed to be seeing make contact? The field point??????:eek:

I aint buying it.

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Same effect applies in golf. Why do you think they use white golf balls? The more "white" you use with your feathers or vanes, nock and etc., the better chance you'll have at seeing your arrow in flight. The human eye just picks it up faster and better. Try it, you'll be supprised at how often
you'll see the arrow in flight and strike the target. Helps to know how in tune you are with your setup too. Really neat to see the arrows fly like darts!

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'Cause they're easy to find?[&:]

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Exactly.

IKNOW ICAN SEE MY ARROWS HIT WHAT I AM AIMING AT. I shot my buck in very low light this year andI still said the shot looked a little back. It was by a couple of inches of where I really wanted it to hit.. But the real reason it looked that way is he wascoming down the hillangled to me more than I thought.