Good video! But i did not see them compaired to a true cut on contact 3 blade head. Would like to see how they compair there.

I have absolutely no loyalty to ANY broadhead or manufacturer, in fact I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has used and / or killed at least one animal with as many DIFFERENT heads as I have in the last 10-12yrs.
I shoot what impresses me through practice or or after I try something that catches my eye based upon design and what I am looking for in a head.

I shoot mechanicals for one and one reason only probably 90% of the time. I have energy to spare in my set-ups, and I want to shoot the largest / best performing head I can shoot. To me there is absolutely no reason on earth why someone should pick a 1 1/8"- 1 1/4" expandable head when tehre are so many quality fixed heads on the market. You aren't gaining anything except maybe some ballistic advantage in open or windy country.

I want a minimum of 1 1/2" and preferrably 1 3/4-2" in cutting diameter and I cannot get that in a fixed head. I want to inflict as much tissue damage laterally in a wound channel as is realistically possible while still providing ample penetration.
I have killed literally dozens of deer with large "jacknife" style mechs such as the Rocket Mini-Blaster, Sidewinder, Slammerhead ,Hammerhead , NAP Spitfire, Shockwave, Scorpion etc but I was not always impressed with the entrance holes. On the rare occaision I would hit the off shoulder/ leg and not have a pass thru it could leave you in a pretty shaky position as far as blood trails went.

I always liked the Rocky Mt. Snyper head and how it worked but it really didn't give me the cutting diameter I wanted. I have basically found 2 heads that give me exactly what I want in a broadhead: Easy opening, sharp, 2" cutting diameter with extended cutting blade style tips to really accept a straight line of travel on angled shots,they both penetrate extremely well for their cutting diameterand they both fly terrific.

These 2 heads are the Rage 100gr 2 blade, and the slightly older design, Rocky Mt. Gator XP.
They penetrate great and although I only have 3-4 animals with these so far they have all been pass thrus with room to spare,the best entry and exit wounds I have hadand immediate blood trails.

I've been saying it for too many years now, if you are having trouble with today's quality mechanical heads then chances are you are not choosing the one that compliments your set-up to its fullest potential.
For many years I preached that most people should shy away from those 2" cut Hammerheads unless you were really pushing the KE/ momentum in your rigs.......but in the case of these 2 heads I truly believe that bar has been extended backward toward more middle of the road set-ups with regards to energy output. They use almost nothing to open and the 2 blade design really seems to penetrate well in spite of the 2" cut.

I don't care if a 1" fixed head with a bone crushing tip MIGHT get through the paddle of the shoulder a little better than what I am shooting, no head is going to perform consistently on the harder thicker ridge of that bone anyway. I chuckle everytime I hear someone say "It blew right through both shoulders", trust me when you finally see and HEAR an arrow hit the part of the shoulder area that you don't belong in you'll know it and you will NOT be blowing through both of anything.

Hitting the thick part of a shoulder blade is not really a consideration for me as I don't put myself in a position to hit that high and forward so I want the head that will perform the best on soft tissue and organs in the event of a marginal shot in any other direction, high in the lungs, low, back whatever........I want a head that reaches out laterally and damages more tissue and possible multiple organs/ vessels. I want a wound channel I can slide 4 fingers into vs a smallish nickle sized hole that could more easily plug with fat or gut on a marginal hit.
I basically want overkill within reason for any shot that finds intself in the body cavity.

If I don't trust it 100% it will not be in my quiver, I'm not out there to play games with these animals or use them as "test subjects" I carry what I feel will kill that animal the quickest and cleanest under the widest variety of possible shot scenarios. Bone crushing means NOTHING absolutely NOTHING to me based upon anatomy and shot selection. Bone chushing IMO is a bunch of nonsense. You are much more liklely to hit liver, one lung or guts than you are the single area of the shoulder that could possibly need BONE CRUSHING.

Choose your heads based upon how they perfrom for the 99% of the shot results you will wind up with.......soft tissue and ribs.
Shoot a quality head that takes full advantage of the energy output your personal bow provides...if you are on eth low end and you feel most comfortable with modest cutting diameters or cut on contact fixed heads then you are choosing smartly........if you are shooting 70+ft lbs of KE on a mid weight arrow and using 1 1/8" fixed heads IMO you are doing yourself a disservice.

Just my opinion on lots of animals taken with lots of different heads in the search for "The one"

For me I think that "One" might be the Rage 2 blade. Anyone who calls it junk is misinformed, misguided or biased.

I am serious! I could care less what you shoot, why would I lie about it? This particular shot this guy took was on a wounded deer my brother had hit the day before. We seen the deer bedded and me and 3 other guys slowly approached while my brother and another guy posted 30 yards in front of us. Thisfriend of mine had the only open shot when the deer stood up, it was a severe butshootable angle, he aimed for the last rib hoping to come out behind the shoulder on the other side. The arrow glanced right off the riband into the dirt between its legs. He got an earfull from a few us about thekind of broadhead he shootsand what can happen with some of these mechanicals. Luckilywe got one more crack at the deer an hour later and this time my other buddy zipped him good behind the shoulder. You could see plain as day where the rage hit thedeer on the outside of the rib on the hide. It sliced it about 2 inches long on the hide. This is the only time i've seen it, i'veheardof a few others incidents. You go ahead and shoot what you want, don't matter to me what you shoot, but don't call me a liar!!!!!

Sounds to me like its a bit more of a misrepresentation of what happened? I think it much more likely that he just pulled the shot a little and grazed the deer.
If you know anything about these heads and practiced with them like I have........they don't BOUNCE off anything. There isn't an angle that a fixed head will get through that these won't just as well if not a little better because of the length of the tip and the cutting blade insert.

Because the animal you mention had a slash on it means nothing other than a pulled shot. The fact that there was a slash simply means that the hide pushed one blade back and cut the animal as it glanced off.........exactly what would have happened with the same shot on ANY head.
Nobody is calling you a liar I don't think, only that there is most likely some misinterpretation of what actually happened. Severe shooting angles mean a much smaller margin for error and a shot that would only be 1-2" off on a broadside animal is still a perfect shot. On a severe quartering animal 1-2" off could mean the difference of the tip never biting anything.
I know these heads and if the tip hit where it was supposed to on impact the rest of the head would have followed. These heads will not deflect anymore than any other broadhead you can tell just by looking at the design. The blades don't lever out and away but straight back and they angle is no steeper than many of the current popular short fixed heads. Combine that with an extended front which will actually HELP penetration on angled shots and blaming the broadhead makes no sense in reality.
Its easy to poke blame at a piece of equipment we have little to no experience with and away from the guy behind the bow, it's human nature.

Sounds to me like its a bit more of a misrepresentation of what happened? I think it much more likely that he just pulled the shot a little and grazed the deer.
If you know anything about these heads and practiced with them like I have........they don't BOUNCE off anything. There isn't an angle that a fixed head will get through that these won't just as well if not a little better because of the length of the tip and the cutting blade insert.

Because the animal you mention had a slash on it means nothing other than a pulled shot. The fact that there was a slash simply means that the hide pushed one blade back and cut the animal as it glanced off.........exactly what would have happened with the same shot on ANY head.
Nobody is calling you a liar I don't think, only that there is most likely some misinterpretation of what actually happened. Severe shooting angles mean a much smaller margin for error and a shot that would only be 1-2" off on a broadside animal is still a perfect shot. On a severe quartering animal 1-2" off could mean the difference of the tip never biting anything.
I know these heads and if the tip hit where it was supposed to on impact the rest of the head would have followed. These heads will not deflect anymore than any other broadhead you can tell just by looking at the design. The blades don't lever out and away but straight back and they angle is no steeper than many of the current popular short fixed heads. Combine that with an extended front which will actually HELP penetration on angled shots and blaming the broadhead makes no sense in reality.
Its easy to poke blame at a piece of equipment we have little to no experience with and away from the guy behind the bow, it's human nature.
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The last thing you said there has alot of truth to it. However it goes both ways, these rages are new heads with hardly any expierence to go on like you said. Howeverthey've gotta prove themselves as well. By this time next year we all will be knowing the pro's and con's of this particular head with all the people shooting them this year and next year, the more people thatshoot them, the more we can base our facts on. I wasn't calling you a liar by no means, i was going off a post that someone told me to get serious, so i did!!!

To say these heads have not been tested yet is not accurate at all.

Members on this board and others have been knocking deer down at an alarming rate with these heads. Fact the snypers have been out for awhile now and the rage is the same head.

I am a die hard fixed BH guy. I have killed 15/15 with Montec 125, two of those 15 where marginal shots. After talking with John, GMMAT and others I have decide to try rage two blade this late season.

My arrow is 536 grains, I am shooting around 240-250 FPS. I think I have enough. I have shot a 200+ pound buck in the opposite shoulder and not gotten a pass through with fixed. Like Matt said, if I am anywhere near the shoulder blade, well then I am a moron for shooting it there. I want a big hole in these deer. I do not want one that will plug. My third doe was a perfect Qrt away 18 yd shot. I did not pass through and the blood trail was tough. Being I have hunted this farm for 23 years, I knew where to look. When I found the deer the hole was pluged, I decide right there I was going shoot a head that was going to put a large hole in the deer. I had to eat some crow and put aside my bias.

When I waxed one with the rage I will give a full report.

I agree with just about everything Matt/PA says about the Rage heads. However, I did personally see one "glance" off a bone this year. The arrow entered a medium mule deer, at a severe quartering away angle, in the last rib and when it hit big bone in the opposite shoulder, came out of the deer at a 45 degree angle upward - falling to the ground within 25 feet. A little post mortem showed the head deflecting off the the shoulder bone and the rest of the arrow followed.

I was pretty surprised - particularly when you consider that the entire shaft was in the deer when the head changed direction. But it happened . . .

BTW - deer was only able to run about 40 yards before he stopped and started wobbling.

Would the same arrow have deflected off that mule deer were it tipped with a fixed BH? Sometimes I think people mistake causation with correlation. Correlation is....it was a bad shot for the angle that caused the deflection. The mechanical BH was NOT the "cause".

Matt.....buddy that's about the best post I've ever seen on this subject. I've hit shoulder ONE time in 13 deer I've killed. It was the off-side shoulder. I had a Muzzy on the end....and it went throught the body cavity but did not ass thru the deer, totally.

Your post was outstanding. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

From what I've seen, several mechanicals have poor blades and are also prone to problems with deflection on steep angled treestandor quartering shots. One more thing that sets the Grim Reaper apart from the rest is they have a patented inner spring mechanism that allows the blades to float independently from eachother which prevents deflection on angledshots.

Bottom line is thatwe owe it to the animals we hunt to shoot what we're most confident with; however, sometimes we are confident with less effective equiptment than is out there! For instance, I had a guy try to sell me on the Rocket Hammerheads because he had used them for years, and they have a 2" cutting diameter. But if you look at the tests done by Grim Reaper, the Hammerhead blades are mangled after shootingthrough the deer shoulder/ballistic gellatin! The Grim Reaper blades were still in tact after nearlypassing through a steel drum!!!

Watch the videos.... the proof is in the pudding or in this case the ballistic gellatin!

http://grimreaperbroadheads.com/

A fixed BHprobably wouldhave deflected as well. Although the angle of the blade is steeper on the Rage and the blade itself is larger - ie. more leverage for deflection. I can picture the G5 Montec deflecting, but probably not as much. Yes, the severe quartering away is a tough shot - especially at nearly 40 yards. And this guy did it perfectly. Deer died real quick. Story has a happy ending And the Rage 2 blade is going to see a lot more time in my quiver.