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GMMAT 11-22-2007 07:39 AM

The dumping bandit from God's great acre strikes!
 
If you guys have been reading my posts for a while…..you’ll know I got upset last year when I found out my neighbors had shot at LEAST 4 great deer out of the woods I hunt. I call their place “God’s Great Acre”….because ….if you believe they’re staying on JUST that ONE ACRE they own….and killing all those great deer…..then surely God himself has blessed that little piece of non-tree laden sod.

These characters hunt anywhere they want to……when they want to….with whatever weapon they want to. They’re also the ones I have a sneaky suspicion (Ya think???) stole my stand and feeder, recently.

OK….so today I start myself a new Thanksgiving tradition. I took my longbow with me to the woods this morning. Great morning….but no deer sightings. Around 8:45…..I notice something moving over my left shoulder. I can’t make it out…..but it looks like a man. That’s never happened to me. I’m the only person with permission to hunt the land I do. At least he’s safe. He has an orange stocking cap on. When he gets closer…..I see it’s the grand poobah of the great acre himself…..in full trailer trash regalia. He’s got on grey sweat pants and some sort of blue pullover. He's about 40 yds, now…..and he leans his gun against a tree. OK….so now he’s gonna take a whiz in my honey hole, right? WRONG. He slides down the sweats……squats and takes a big ol No. 2 where he’s standing. He finishes in pretty much record time…..has the wherewithal to have remembered to bring his TP. Mr Poobah wipes…..drops it….and THEN he spots me. OK….awkward moment ensues…………..

He then tells me I’m hunting on the parks land (which I’m not). He then tells me he’s gonna call the state wildlife agency….because he knows I’m not turning in and tagging all my deer (remember….I’m in full camo with a facemask and he knows not who I am from Adam). He then asks me what weapon I’m hunting with….to which I silently just held out my longbow. He said “Figures”…..”We found a dead deer down here with one of your arrows in it”. Lie. Never lost one.

So now…..after trespassing on AT LEAST three properties to get to where he now is…..what does he do? He walks DIRECTLY into the parks system and starts to leave…..going deeper in. I said….”Where are YOU now hunting”? He said he wasn’t hunting…..but that he was going to tell the owner” (which is the County of Forsyth, NC!...lol).

I’m calling the warden. Enough is enough.

Happy Thanksgiving.:)

Jimimac 11-22-2007 07:44 AM

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That's a heart warming story right there.[:@]

PABuck_HNTR 11-22-2007 07:54 AM

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I’m calling the warden. Enough is enough.

I think that it's time.... These slob hunters need some run ins with the law to make them think twice about what they are doing. You have facts on your side. Maybe you need to get the land owner involved too. So it isn't just your word against the Poobah! The land owner need to back you up as to who's aloud to hunt his land.

davidmil 11-22-2007 07:55 AM

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That's one of those Touchy Touchy feel good Thanksgiving stories. It would be funny if the jerk weren't so serious.

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my7pointmonster 11-22-2007 07:59 AM

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Hahha!! how was that akward moment for you?? lol Idk whati would have doen let us know what the game warden says though im sorta curious.

Happy Thanksgiving Jeff,

Hope it all works out for you.

Ryan.

Rickmur 11-22-2007 08:00 AM

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Better hurry cause you might need to recover some DNA from the you know what:D

bawanajim 11-22-2007 08:01 AM

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Ya even have some DNA proof . [:'(]

Matt / PA 11-22-2007 08:22 AM

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Cue the banjo music...........
:eek:

I had a similar story about 6yrs back with a guy who looked up at me in my stand and then pulled his shorts down and pee'd all over the tree with the posted sign on it 30 yards from my stand. This after he saw a buck heading to me and got down out of his stand illegally ON PRIVATE LAND to scare it away. I have honestly never been so mad in the woods in my life (Well maybe after I lost all my crap this season?:eek:).........Anyway.

I guess he couldn't determine scale from a distance because when i got down out of that tree (in record time I might ad) he was a touch surprised to learn he was like a 2nd grader standing next to a now very angry ME.

My exchange sort of went like this......(he actually didn't say a word)
"You bleepity, bleepin' bleephead, I am 3 seconds from bleepity bleepin your bleep right here" (You can probably figure out how the rest of that conversation went for the next full minute.:D)

I hope the statute of limitations is up on that one ......LOL ( I should probably go look up the definition of "Terroristic Threats";))

Good luck with that one, and I wouldn't back off just because of in-breeding and fear of retailiation. People like that NEED to be put in their place or they will just make your life miserable anyway.



Rhody Hunter 11-22-2007 08:22 AM

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now that is a wierd thanksgiving story. right enough is enough

buckmaster 11-22-2007 08:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Ya even have some DNA proof . [:'(]
LOL........

I hope you bag him jeff, good luck

Buck Magnet 11-22-2007 08:53 AM

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Hopefully they take care of the guy for you. That is just sickening and I remember the stories about this guy. Tresspassing is as bad of a problem as poaching. It is a major problem in my area. Unless you have every single tree in your woods posted people believe that they can hunt the property without permission. It is sad that most people around here don't realize that even without the woods being posted they are still private property and you need permission to hunt them.

Lubricious 11-22-2007 09:03 AM

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I hope you get that SOB. Very aggrevating..

Vogt_51 11-22-2007 09:09 AM

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We have a sleezeball like that where we hunt. He hunts a tree line out in the middle of 3 fields with the only deer he ever sees coming off our land. When we hunt, we can see if he is there or not and if he shoots. Well, we heard no shots the other day from him(Sunday, last day of first season gun hunting in Illinois). Then his wife calls my grandfather, the actual landowner, to tell him that her son, who is a grown man, shot a deer and went over to their land(right where we hunt) to get it yesterday some time. First off, I don't believe that for one second. Secondly, this isn't the first time this guy trespasses as he does it all the time.

On a different story this guy called my grandfather about a week ago to ask if he wanted to sell/give them this old antique-type plow that is sitting in my grandfather's tree-line by my grandfather's house. Now, first off, he could have NEVER seen the thing if he didn't trespass at some time to see it as it is nowhere near his property. So my grandfather, not really liking the guy, tells him he isn't using it but doesn't feel like selling it right now. So, what do you know.....The next day my grandfather and grandmother leave the house to go to Church and eat and come back and notice tracks from a tractor right through their backyard and the plow stuck just in the field right outside the treeline. Those bastards just came over when he was gone, probably thinking he left for Chemotherapy in which he is usually gone all day.....and tried to just take the thing.

Another time, the son was trespassing doing something in his truck back near that plow.....about 200 yards from the house and road.....and he gets stuck. Grandparents weren't home again, so the father comes over, just jumps in my grandfather's tractor, which has some type of plow or drag on it, and just takes it out in the field to get him. Well, he doesn't take the implement off and just drives through about 2 feet tall corn about 50 yards in, smashing corn and everything, then notices and drops the implement and takes it off. AND JUST LEAVES IT THERE!! He gets his idiot son out, and puts the tracktor back and leaves the implement in the field. Never calls to tell them what happened or anything. My grandparents call and they say what happened. No thanks or nothing.....

Oh yeah....and back to the hunting discussion part. My dad's brother, who hunts near us talks to another guy who hunts near us and says he talked to the idiot son and he says something about us poaching deer all the time with rifles(which are illegal in Illinois). The guy he told knows my dad and said, "I know him and I don't think he would EVER do that.....He usually passes on just about every deer anyways, why would he poach them?"

I mean....what is with some people?

davidmil 11-22-2007 09:25 AM

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I got one that's even almost as good. I was 20 feet up hidden really really well one day behind this neighborhood of yuppy mansions in Maryland. I was probably 100 yards from the back of these lots. There was a crew raking/blowing up leaves for this yard. I had watched the owner come out and greet the morning and leave for work. The work crew arrives and I get distracted watching a couple does down in the woods. Suddenly I hear voices. I look down and this straw boss for the leaf crew is walking my way talking on his cell phone. He comes down and drops his drawers about 30 yards from me. He continues to talk and grunt everything out at the same time. Now the good part. After dumping his morning breakfast of tacos and refried beans he continues to talk, stands, pulls up his pants and walks back to the yard to continue supervising. You know, there's something that tells me a guy isn't too interested in details of a job if he can't take the time to wipe.[:'(][:'(]

loogout1 11-22-2007 09:47 AM

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2 things, GMMAT, I know nobody likes to cut their hunts short, but when he said he was going to tell the land owner you should have said,"Yeah lets do that" and proceeded to climb down and ****** him wherever he was going. Vogt, sounds like you've had more than enough opportunities to call the law on this guy. Tresspassing would have been the least of it, how about attempted robbery, vandalism, grand larceny of a tractor, etc. One motto I try to live by is "Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me!"

Diesel77 11-22-2007 10:06 AM

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Man, sorry GMMAT thats just a bad situation and one that will never end unfortunately. There is nothing a game warden can to that will be severe enough to stop this family from trespassing. Trust me, Ive been in a similar situation.

Oh jeez, nice Dave heh. Not suprising on the lack of hygene.

Heres a story for you. I was hunting my Aunts 66 acres a few years ago afterabout 20 years of begging. She has owned the place for 22 years andNO onewasallowed to hunt because she had the property loaded with cows, steers, bulls, calves, sheep. goats, breeding pheasant and quail etc .... Well my Uncle passed away she eventually had to sell the animals as it was too much work by herself. So, she finally said okay, its all your have fun. Yeehaw. This was 2 days before opening day of gun season. I figured I would bring a friend to this potential gold mine that has not been hunted in twenty some years, some climbing stands and bows. I go to her house, she cooks us up a dandy breafast, and drive through her pastures using the gates, its 5AM and pitch dark. I park my truckjust inside the last gate, we are getting our gear together, and this flashlight starts coming at from about 100 yards. Well, this guys starts in on me, GET YOUR TRUCK AND GET THE F%^% OUTTA HERE!! THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY!! I said yeah I know, its my Aunts place, and who are you?? He said hes been hunting this farm for 20 yearsetc etc etc and threatens me to the point where I put my bow down and stepped to hisface where he immdeiately backed down, and backed up 5 feet holding his rifle. Im not one to fight unless the button gets pushed, and it was pushed. Anyway, turns out this guy never had permission, we called the police and the game warden, I got his truck tags, his name etc and nothing ever happened. Worst part is, he comesback every season. I dont even bother hunting there, toomuch drama for me.

Lubricious 11-22-2007 10:14 AM

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Trespassing would be better suited for the cops or sheriff wouldnt it? Try them instead of the game warden. Im not certain on what a warden could do in your state.

Steve F.in MD 11-22-2007 10:17 AM

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I'm going to have indigestion after reading these posts. Please people, do what you have to to put these trespassing poachers in jail. They will never stop as long as they get away with it.

GMMAT 11-22-2007 10:19 AM

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The warden's a friend.....and he's been called on these yahoos a LOT over the years. He's going on the hunting on county land angle. We'll see what happens.

PABuck_HNTR 11-22-2007 10:22 AM

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Unfortunately the only thing to gain from filing trespass charges are a bit of inconveience for the person. Trespass violations are hard to prove and hardly ever a win for the land owner. Most people get off of the charge/charges. The only thing is that you can make their lives a bit miserable for a few months by dragging them to court. The best thing to do is patrol the land as often as you can both in season and off season. That way the idiots know someone is watching.

loogout1 11-22-2007 10:22 AM

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Diesel, when you're right, FULL STEAM AHEAD. F#$% that guy. Just on general principal I would screw that guy until he couldn't sit. And he comes back every year? You mean your aunt lets him trespass every year. Some of you guys must have hunting spots hanging out your arses to not secure the ones you could have the opportunities to have. Where i'm from land is at a minimum and so is tolerance for **** like that.

nctaxi 11-22-2007 10:28 AM

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Jef - Call Chris and let him know. The sheer fact that he went on park land with a weapon is enough to get him in trouble.

GMMAT 11-22-2007 10:31 AM

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I talked to Chris a little while ago, Greg. He's going at it from that route (parks). I don't wanna involve my landowners, period. I just can't fathom the degree of ignorance and arrogance that would lead someone to believe they were above the law.

loogout1 11-22-2007 10:33 AM

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I would do whatever the maximum the law would allow me to, just to prove a point and to teach a little respect(if thats possible). And to keep a good hunting spot. Where I'm from, its bow only and there is no public land. You could imagine that hunting land is at a premium. There is a certain element around here that has decided its ok to drive the roads and long driveways looking for big bucks. These guys have specially made poaching guns, some are 22 fired arrow rifles, others operate off of air, and some just use 22s, or their compounds. If I so much as see someone driving slowly down the road, or in camo, I'll folow them and then give them the third degree about private land blah blah blah. Just so they know, that I know.

Ben / PA 11-22-2007 10:44 AM

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Jeff, I hope you get this guy. I think I would have been tempted to alert him to my being there, just as he was in mid squat. Could have made for an even worse outcome (for him)than this scumbag deserves.

Diesel77 11-22-2007 10:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: loogout1

Diesel, when you're right, FULL STEAM AHEAD. F#$% that guy. Just on general principal I would screw that guy until he couldn't sit. And he comes back every year? You mean your aunt lets him trespass every year. Some of you guys must have hunting spots hanging out your arses to not secure the ones you could have the opportunities to have. Where i'm from land is at a minimum and so is tolerance for **** like that.
Haha I let my buddy Bubba handlehis not being able to sit part. My aunt is 74, she rarely even wandersout of her fenced pasture. I could shoot a cannon off on her property and she wouldnt hear it lol, and if she did, would be too scared to go out and confront anyone, she would call me. I went back 2 years in a row just with the intention of making sure this guy doesnt hunt there. Same thing ensued in slightly different fashions. It ruined his and his 4 friendsopening day but ruined any friends that volunteered to come with me as well. Thats why I eventually just said the heck with it.

Thats why I knowin GMMAT situation, if thesejack@$$es live next to the property, it will take an24x7 armed guard to keep these criminals out of there.

loogout1 11-22-2007 11:00 AM

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Yeah, unless you're there, and they live there, when the cats away, the mice will play. I cant stand disrespectful people. Especially ones who think they're owed something for nothing.

Inept 11-22-2007 11:43 AM

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if hes gonna walk on your land, walk his acre and find ur stand and feeder..... ya, report him at least.

eatsleephunt 11-22-2007 12:32 PM

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It sucks to have to deal with people who are intent on illegal activity. You may not have caused trouble for him until now because you thought he might retaliate, and he/they might. But, if you don't set a prescedent by involving him with law inforcement, he will most assuredly continue to tresspass, etc.

Back in the day I had exclusive hunting rights to one of my grandmother's farms in Illinois. It was not uncommon for me to catch/chase several tresspassers each season. One guy walked through the river bottom underneath me firing a shotgun. He was shooting birds, squirrels, and even a chipmunk (which I watched him urinate on after he killed it). I waited until he was about 30 yards from me before I alerted him to my presence. By the time he knew what hit him I had hung my bow up, climbed down the tree and was half way to the guy. He was scared so badly by my young, rash temper and 6'-6" frame, I thought he might be pissing down his leg (if he hadn't already emptied his bladder on the chipmunk).

I got the guys name, address, the works, but my grandfather refused to press charges because he was worried the guy would vandalize the property. Guess what. I catch the same jerk the following year about a half mile from there on our place again. He acted scared as usual, etc., but what do you do? If you can't prosecute... they just come back.

Some advise I might give you though. If you choose to have a discussion with Poobah, have a witness with you. If there are several of these inbred characters around, and you are their only nemesis, they can easily fabricate anything they want to about you and simply claim that Poobah 1,2 and 3 or possibly even 4 were all there to witness it.

Good luck!



allenb 11-22-2007 01:31 PM

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i hope he gets what he deserves, my only advice is to get the land owner to back you up. I have problems every year with people tresspassing and so far everyone of them act like i`m the lawbreaker or i`m causing the problem. It is sad that there will always be those few that make all of us look bad. as far as you having your stand stolen talk to your game warden because i had one stolen 2 years ago and ayear later i run intoour warden and he told me that i should`ve called because he has a list of thiefs and95% of the time the stand will be in plain sight when they get there. Just a suggestion. But i hope everything works out for you.

Rob/PA Bowyer 11-22-2007 05:49 PM

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I'm so mad I can't even comment.[:'(]

bloodcrick 11-22-2007 06:37 PM

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Jeff, please keep us updated on this one!! what an idiot, hope you get itresolved. Matt: when i started reading yours, im thinking does this guy know how big you are, then i read on :D

crutch 11-22-2007 08:22 PM

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I'm so mad I can't even comment.[:'(]
[/quote]

same here...and I don't even own or hunt that kind of timber!
Around here I am lucky to hunt the few "small" spots I got permission to.
If I had sole rights to timber you can bet your sweet arse it would be patroled....even if I was gone!

Good luck GMMAT with your situation, keep us posted!

my7pointmonster 11-22-2007 08:30 PM

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Any new Developments yet?

Ryan.

GMMAT 11-23-2007 02:50 AM

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New developments????....lol

I just reported him to the GW, yesterday!:D I'm heading back onto the fringe of the land I hunt, this morning.....with some orange on, JUST IN CASE.

You guys have a great day. I'm just looking forward to the sit. Right now the game is........how many layers????;):D

Should be a beautiful morning....;)

NY Bowhunter 11-23-2007 05:07 AM

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Good luck with the warden thing. I hope the ones in your area are better than mine. I've been after "the slob" of my area for 10 years with ZERO progress and next to no cooperation from our DEC. I've got some stories about the yahoo in my area over the years that would make you puke.

my7pointmonster 11-23-2007 06:39 PM

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Any New developments, jeff? Im sorta excited to hear about this and im not sure why.

Ryan.

Kansashunter89 11-24-2007 09:18 AM

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Our family owns 260 acres, their are some deer on it but not too many. I couldn't even imagine what I would do if I was out there hunting and some idiot would come up and tell me that I was tresspassing on my own land.

gzg38b 11-26-2007 04:57 PM

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This thread is making me sick to my stomach.

Have you thought about taking pictures or video of these scumbags in the act of trespassing? I would carry a camera with me every time I went into that woods just to try to get evidence that would hold up in court.

And I'd even carry a small voice recorder to tape the conversations when you confront them.


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