RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

If a deer is directly under me, he'd better be wearing a saddle. (I'm a ground hunter.:))

RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

Whenever I hear someone say they had a deer go under their stand - I wonder. Even I've said I've taken deer right underneath me - when they were really 5-10 yds out.

If the deer is REALLY right under you - Do not shoot - I'd almost bet you could NOT shoot - its a very difficult shot to make! If the deer is broadside at 5 yds - and I'm 20 ft up - you bet I'll shoot - and when I tell the story - I'll probably say it was "right underneath me".

I'm sorry but I to have to take issue with one post,
TFOX SAID:

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> If you say to just shoot the spine,well,that gives you a target that is maybe 2&quot; wide.If you miss the spine,the arrow goes between the lungs and you never find the animal.It is quite possible to miss on a deer that close because he will move when the arrow is released,and it doesn't matter how fast the bow is.He may only move 2 inches but that is all that is needed to miss the spine and go between the lungs for a bad hit.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

I want to at least clear this mis-statement up - If you shot &quot;between the lungs&quot; from straight up - I'll bet the deer does not go 20 yds!. The shot would effectively disrupt the plueral membrane for both lungs, likely take at least one major artery/vein (Aorta, Vena Cava , or brances) or the heart. There is no Void between the lungs.

The problem woth the shot is the very real possibility of the spine stopping penetration - WITHOUT severing the spinal cord. Deer hit like this will drop, but get right back up, often before a second arrow can be delivered. If the arrow does completely miss the spine - and you get more than 7&quot; penetration - the deer will die in very short order - though the blood trail might be sparce.

In short - it is a risky shot - that can almost always be avoided by letting the deer go by.

RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

We have seen this question here on this forum before......Judge your distance to your target from 20 feet up, just as if you were on the ground. I use my 20 yard pin at 10 yard targets and hit about 2-3&quot; high. When I shoot at a 5 yard target I have to use my 30 yard pin to hit the bull's Eye. When I shoot at a 3 yard target, I have to use my 40 yard pin. A deer directly under you would be like a &quot;0&quot; yard target if you were on the ground. I have never tried to shoot a target &quot;0&quot; yards away, but I bet you would be using the 50 yard pin or so........I think I'll aim at a target 0 yards away and just find out.....

RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

wait until it comes out from under you for a good shot
and if I cant get a good shot it walks.

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RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

farm hunter,you are right about killing the animal.The actuall lung could be missed and I don't think that you would find the animal in 20 yards.I believe the animal would be much farther away.You would have a hard time finding the animal,unless,of course you do catch the heart but these are a lot of if's.

The plueral membrane is not the lungs and the reason we want the lungs is so the deer will suffocate,that is why we want BOTH lungs,to deprive the deer from as much oxygen as quickly as possible.At best with the straight down shot,you will catch 1 lung and the deer will travel a great distance before dying,if it dies at all.I actually read last night that a deer can survive a straight down single lung hit because the lung could actually clot(maybe wrong terminology but I am going off memory).

Most people have enough bow to paralize a deer thru the spine but it is still a low percentage shot.You are right though,it is possible to not get enough penetration to paralize the deer and there he goes,running around with a broadhead stuck in his back.


I agree that most of us would call a 5 yard shot a straight down shot and there is a big difference in a 5 yard and 1 that is straight down.I would take this shot without reservation but would prefer him to be 25 yards.


I still don't understand why a person would choose to take the shot when a few seconds later the deer will be a few yards away,offering a much better shot.At least 90% of the time it will.


chdeerbio,

I totally disagree that a deer that is 30-40 yards away will jump a string before one that is directly below or out to even 20 yards.The further away the noise is the less the deer will be affected by it.It is called a comfort zone and any noise outside about 30-35 yards they will just look to see what it is but inside that distance they just react by bolting.I do not think that a deer directly below would be able to move enough to actually get out of the way of an arrow but maybe enough to make a good shot a bad hit.

I had a nice buck about 5 yards from the base of my tree this year and I was 17 ft up.I could not shoot because the safety belt I was using had me sinched up to the tree and I could not turn to take the shot.When I finally got the thing to slide,only about an inch,the little noise that the belt made rubbing against itself was enough at that distance to send the deer running.He only ran about 25 yards and started walking again but it was too late.The cover was too much to get a clean shot.It doesn't take much noise to make them move.He never figured out what the noise was.Lesson learned though,safety harness from here on out.


If anyone wants to take the shot,more power to you,I for one am sticking to higher percentage shots.And for me I believe a 50 yard shot is a higher percentage shot.Go figure!!

RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

I don't see the difference in a shot nearly straight down, or one 5 yards away. Assuming the deer is now travaling away from you, how if the shot any better? You are still looking at the spine, and the 1 lung shot.

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RE: How do you shoot a deer directly under you?
 

A 5 yard shot can let you hit the top of 1 lung and the bottom of the other or allow a perfect heart shot.At 5 yards I would elect to take the heart shot.If he drops to run then you have a good lung shot and if he doesn't you have a perfect heart shot.Either way you win.

Of course,the heigth of your stand makes a big difference.I am usually at 17 ft so I still have an angle.If you are 30 ft a 5 yard shot would be a much more difficult shot.

Edited by - tfox on 01/24/2003 19:56:11