are kill shots really necessary?
#21
Typical Buck
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bogobble - Yes, that's correct. I have never spine shot a deer with an arrow. I have seen two deer spine shot. I posted those episodes under "Spine Shots". Both were paralyzed from the impact point rearward. I finished off the first one, watched the hunter do the second for close to three minutes trying to get position; neither made a vocal sound whatsoever.
As a matter of fact, the only "bawl" I've ever heard from a deer was a fawn that was taken down by a pair of male coyotes in December '99.
Truthfully, it was erie. But that sorta thing happens outside of human intervention on a regular basis. It didn't curddle my blood though, death is a part of life. Granted it's the end part, but it happens in many different ways.
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As a matter of fact, the only "bawl" I've ever heard from a deer was a fawn that was taken down by a pair of male coyotes in December '99.
Truthfully, it was erie. But that sorta thing happens outside of human intervention on a regular basis. It didn't curddle my blood though, death is a part of life. Granted it's the end part, but it happens in many different ways.
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#22
GForce the doe I spined this year let out a God awful bawl, I couldn't finish her off quick enough.
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The Tazman aka Martin Price
Proud father of a Devil Dog
#23
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
Taz - I believe it happens, I've just never heard it from any of the deer I've harvested.
The 2002 season a hunter told me this story:
His first deer with a bow was a .5 yr. old doe that he shot while walking away at a very slight angle. Arrow went in behind left ribcage and exited just inside left shoulder. One lunged her. He said from the time she started moving she sounded like a baby crying. His account of this story was seconded by his son who was nearby and stated that the bawling continued until the finishing shot.
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The 2002 season a hunter told me this story:
His first deer with a bow was a .5 yr. old doe that he shot while walking away at a very slight angle. Arrow went in behind left ribcage and exited just inside left shoulder. One lunged her. He said from the time she started moving she sounded like a baby crying. His account of this story was seconded by his son who was nearby and stated that the bawling continued until the finishing shot.
Shoot often - Hunt always
#24
Yes, it is important to watch a deer's reaction after a shot, especially if it is a complete pass-thru, to determine weather to start to track or wait because of a bad hit. As far as watching a deer die, it bothers different people in different ways. Sure we all want a quick clean kill but you have to face the fact that it is a part of this sport and some times it isn't pretty. Just don't take a shot that you are unsure of and practice, practice, practice.
#25
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>To add a bit of what most of you have already said....Death is part of life....human or animal. When speaking about human death, it's a different gig but animal death....come on....it's not even remotely the same. I don't want to sound barbaric(sp?), but I learned at a very young age growing up a dairy farm, about animal death. It happens all the time....not a big deal. That's life. If it makes your stomach turn or makes you queezy, maybe you need to pickup a different sport.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
He nailed it. That's the way I was raised. I usually butchered 300 or so animals a year back in HS. Some of them being my own pets, that I got to like. On most I'd slit there throat and hold them down until they stop kicking. Was is fun or exciting to watch the last few seconds.. no. It's just part of life though. I killed it, so I feel I owe the respect to be there as close to the animal as I can and end it death as quickly as I can.
A couple weeks ago I shot a coyote a little far back. It was yelping, sounded just like my own dog. But i'm glad I'm there at the end, to quickly end the dogs' suffering. It's a part of life. And like what was said before, if you can't stand to see an animal die in any way, then you really should take up another sport. Because death is part of this sport. I think it should be showed on tv, but only to a certain extent. About like most shows are now.
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He nailed it. That's the way I was raised. I usually butchered 300 or so animals a year back in HS. Some of them being my own pets, that I got to like. On most I'd slit there throat and hold them down until they stop kicking. Was is fun or exciting to watch the last few seconds.. no. It's just part of life though. I killed it, so I feel I owe the respect to be there as close to the animal as I can and end it death as quickly as I can.
A couple weeks ago I shot a coyote a little far back. It was yelping, sounded just like my own dog. But i'm glad I'm there at the end, to quickly end the dogs' suffering. It's a part of life. And like what was said before, if you can't stand to see an animal die in any way, then you really should take up another sport. Because death is part of this sport. I think it should be showed on tv, but only to a certain extent. About like most shows are now.
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for all you guys that enjoy watchin the dyin process, go for it!!
I don't, and I won't, perriod!
It don't bother me to the extent that I'm even remotely thinkin
about quitin bowhuntin. bowhuntin has been my life for over 13yrs, and I ain't about to stop now.
and if either of you big macho guy's think I need to quit bowhutin
simply because i don't enjoy watchin death, then your gravely mistaken. it ain't gonna happen!
Nick Bales- hipocritical?? if I'm being hipocritical for loving to bowhunt, but not LOVING to watch a deer die, then this board I would imagine is full of hiprocrits. and not only this board, but others like it as well.!!
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go Cat-22
I don't, and I won't, perriod!
It don't bother me to the extent that I'm even remotely thinkin
about quitin bowhuntin. bowhuntin has been my life for over 13yrs, and I ain't about to stop now.
and if either of you big macho guy's think I need to quit bowhutin
simply because i don't enjoy watchin death, then your gravely mistaken. it ain't gonna happen!
Nick Bales- hipocritical?? if I'm being hipocritical for loving to bowhunt, but not LOVING to watch a deer die, then this board I would imagine is full of hiprocrits. and not only this board, but others like it as well.!!
Ward Burton-- Daytona 500 winner--
go Cat-22
#28
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From: WV USA
I watch for a reaction after the shot such as a mule kick or something of the like just a hint as to whether or not ive made good contact then i watch it till it goes down or goes out of sight, I don't do it because i get a rush from watching it die i just want to make my tracking job easier or know where to go to find him if i see him go down, as for in the hunting shows I think the shot should be showed as well as the reaction but showing one flopping around is just wrong, i mean that is just giving anti hunters more fuel,
"She said if I hit that fishin hole today, she's be packin all her things and she'd, be gone by noon....I'm gonna miss her, when I get home."
"She said if I hit that fishin hole today, she's be packin all her things and she'd, be gone by noon....I'm gonna miss her, when I get home."
#29
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I have the ultimate respect for whatever I hunt, and feel that it is somewhat hypocritical (spelling?) to be the cause of an animals death but say you care enough about the animal not to watch it die.
WI deer hunter
sounds like that's what you meant to me.
anyway, matters not to me. I got my opinions about this, and you have
your's. just don't hold your breath till I quit bowhuntin for not
liking to watch an animal die. I love the sport to much.
I'm through.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Ward Burton-- Daytona 500 winner--
go Cat-22
WI deer hunter
sounds like that's what you meant to me.
anyway, matters not to me. I got my opinions about this, and you have
your's. just don't hold your breath till I quit bowhuntin for not
liking to watch an animal die. I love the sport to much.
I'm through.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Ward Burton-- Daytona 500 winner--
go Cat-22
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From: Hopkinsville, Ky USA
IMO hunting should be represented in public view in only the very best light. The actual hunting experience (for me anyhow) is a very personal thing to be shared w/individuals of my choosing.


