silentassassin

Are just passing your problems on to someone else! The next time it might be a man hunting with a child. You will have stamped it OK to rob and hold a gun on them too. Have some guts! You owe it to your community. Lack of character is what landed us in the situation where we have to worry about these things in the first place!

Protect your hunting rights, "Spay or neuter a liberal."

Sitter

Silent, I am assuming you are referring to the recent post where the hunter was robbed by armed thieves. If that was the scenario what do you expect people to do? You have a rifle leveled at you from point blank range. I hate to tell, you but at that point they make the rules. Nobody in their right mind is going to risk their lives and call the bluff. I agree with you that we should stand up and defend ourselfs. Ive been jumped before(they had baseball bats)and I fought back. They gave me 30 stitches, but they didnt get my property. But let me tell you if they were holding rifles and not louisville sluggers, they would have gotten whatever they wanted and I would live another day to revenge it!

BrianDamage

why rehash a locked topic?

but let me straighten you out:

It's not about having guts or not. Nobody said that they wouldn't defend themsleves...but it doesn't take a genious to figure out when a man points a gun at you and wants your deer, that the best thing to do it let him have it.

I carry a Glock model 30 (45acp) daily...you will be hard pressed to find me NOT carrying it. I don't carry when I bowhunt for 2 reasons 1) it is illegal in my state 2)the public land I hunt on is a Federal wildlife refuge and it is illegal to carry a gun on the property. I value my right to carry too much to risk getting caught violating the law. I guarentee you that in such a situation, tha DA will do his best to hang you with violating whatever laws you did by carrying where you are not supposed to, whether the shooting was justified or not.

that being said, I shoot IDPA matches (International Defensive Pistol Association). I can tell you with upmost confidence that if you were to engage me in a gun fight, all I need is a portion of your head sticking out and you are a dead man. You grab my wife and hold her hostage, you better not let that head be where I can see it because I will blow it off of your shoulders. And I can do it while jogging backwards to cover.


Part of the responsiblity of carrying a handgun is knowing when NOT to shoot jusst as well as when. If I'm in a bank, and a couple if dudes bust in robbing the place, as long as they're not killing folks, I'm on the floor doing what they say. Damn sure not doing to die defending the banks money.


Just like I'm not going to risk pulling a gun on some fool that already has a gun pulled on me. This ain't the movies. More than likely he will take the deer and go. If I feel that death is inevitable, then I would have no choice but to fight.

Now,an unarmed guy wanting my deer is going to have a fight on his hands. But you dummys are wanting to fight back a guy that already has his gun on you? Hope you have a good insurance policy.


Hey, I tell you what, go ahead and fight back! That way, that's one less hunter in the woods bothering me when I'm hunting.

You people need to grow up. I don't know if your girlfriends are reading this or somehting, but I'm trying to figure out who you are trying to impress. Sure ain't impressing me none.

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silentassassin

I was referring to all of the people that were saying they wouldn't fight over a deer. blah blah blah

I wouldn't expect anyone to do anything with a gun trained on them but there were several other situations mentioned that were flat out cowardly. I wouldn't shoot anyone over a deer. But you can bet I would defend my deer or a piece of friggin bubble gum for that matter! I would however shoot someone for trying to asssault me while defending my deer. All of those that said they blantantly wouldn't fight over a deer etc. Well they are passing there problem on to someone else becasue they didn't have the guts to fight it themselves. I will guarantee that the first time someone beats a deer stealing slob into a mangled mess, will be the last time he bullies anyone out of a deer. People that refuse to fight are the reason people like this exist. I wouldn't kill someone for a deer but I would kill someone in self defense in a heart beat and never lose a wink of sleep! For those of you that say that you would just set there and take it, how far do they have to go? At what point do you decide to stand up and fight? I refuse to let any human invade me or my family in that manner. I refuse to be a victim! I have no sympathy for those of you that accept being a victim! Sometimes you have no choice but to be a victim, but you don't ever have to accept it!

Brian,

I assure you, the feeling is mutual!

Protect your hunting rights, "Spay or neuter a liberal."

Edited by - silentassassin on 01/16/2003 12:03:09

BrianDamage

well the scenario that sagitatrious threw out there was for a couple of armed guys taking his buddies deer, and wanted to know what we would do...that's why everybody was saying fighting over a deer wasn't worth it
I don't think anybody said they wouldn't fight against an unarmed attacker (I'd make him eat dirt)
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basserman

The testosterone runneth over again. Time to close again!

"Semper Fi"

GForce

I agree basserman. Starting to wreak of dead horse! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Shoot often - Hunt always

davidmil

SILENT... you're grasping at air and twisting the scenerio. The question was put to us as being out numbered, undergunned etc. If I guy shows me his fist and I have both arms he's in for a fight. No one said we wouldn't defend ourselves. We simply stated we didn't see the value in taking a life over a piece of meat. I have no quams about blasting the hell out of someone if the situation merits such a response. I've done it before. I've also put the barrell of a loaded gun to someones temple with every intention of dropping the hammer if things didn't proceed really well. But I just don't think a piece of meat is worth it. No matter how macho you think it is to defend yourself and &quot;STUFF&quot; at all cost.... if I have the drop on you with a firearm you don't stand a chance if my intentions are to shoot. Go ahead... try it... &quot;make my day&quot;. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I personnally have NEVER heard a direct story(other than an urban legend) where someone took a deer a gunpoint. Don't try and blame us for the next victim of a crime because we see MORE value in life than a chunk of meat. We're not passing anything on to the next guy. We're using prudent judgement and making our standards as to what life is worth. It's more than a pound of jerky.

Charlie P

Silent,Just wondering how old are you.

BobCo19-65

Personally, I wouldn't even get in a fist fight over a deer. Go ahead and blast me for it.

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I really don't care.