Silent, I am assuming you are referring to the recent post where the hunter was robbed by armed thieves. If that was the scenario what do you expect people to do? You have a rifle leveled at you from point blank range. I hate to tell, you but at that point they make the rules. Nobody in their right mind is going to risk their lives and call the bluff. I agree with you that we should stand up and defend ourselfs. Ive been jumped before(they had baseball bats)and I fought back. They gave me 30 stitches, but they didnt get my property. But let me tell you if they were holding rifles and not louisville sluggers, they would have gotten whatever they wanted and I would live another day to revenge it!