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Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Just watch this video, then, look me right in the face and tell me that it's a great idea for an 8-year-old to be bowhunting.
Can you believe that this guy (dad) is listed as "Pro Staff" for both Darton Archery and Aftershock broadheads. Go to his myspace page, scroll halfway down to the video - click play, and try not to puke. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid =53040254 |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Don't you know that there are those that will be more impressed with this because it is a bow kill than they would be with someone shooting a deer with a rifle because anyone can shoot a deer at 200 yards with a rifle ;).
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Wow some "hunt".
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
i do not agree with the top video. tht was like killing a pet i bet the boy could have walked up and stabbed that deer IMO
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Nice music can't ya just picture a little " Nuge " DOING THE SAME THING.
Here a link to after shock be sure and let them know your feelings .[:'(][:o][:@] http://www.aftershockarchery.com/feedback.aspx |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
that will probibly be on petas web page soon[:@]
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier Don't you know that there are those that will be more impressed with this because it is a bow kill than they would be with someone shooting a deer with a rifle because anyone can shoot a deer at 200 yards with a rifle ;). quik, as far as the video, are they shooting pets? How sad to introduce a kid and say that's hunting. I don't have an issue of an 8 year old hunting where legal. That's not my call, that's the parents respondsibility but in this instance, That whole video saddens me. I'd been impressed if they had the boy in a ground blind hunting free range deer and non baited animals. If a buck or doe came within his effective shooting range and he shot it and recovered it, kudos but that scenerio was pathetic... As far as his Myspace, looks typical but I didn't go through his pictures. It wasn't worth it. I'm all for introducing kids to hunting but I think they should be introduced the right way. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
I have no problem with it other than the celebration. Doesn't seem like something worth celebrating.
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
well said rob
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
I sent him a message on Myspace. I'll post the hatemail response when I get it. Should be comical.
"Some Christian... Having your 8 year old walk up to and shoot a tame deer at a bait feeder. Classy. You're a piece of work, dude." |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Um, the title should be amazingly stupid video!! I want my 30 seconds back!! I turned it off right after the shot!!! Thats worse then high fence hunting!!!
PUKE!!!!! |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
I've got no problems with an 8 year old hunting, but the lack of responsible adult supervision is disturbing. As Rob said, it's sad that this is the way the boy is introduced to "hunting."
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Wow, scouting really pays off :D. Just kidding. The whole thing really sickens me.[:'(]
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Wow, really made Fred Bear proud there...[:'(]Use a knife next time to give your self some challenge.
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Two things about that video that really stood out:
1.) Dad's obvious incompetence, lack of morals, complete ineptitude as a parent. 2.) The child walking right up to a domesticated animal, and sticking it from 10 feet awaywitha youth bow- without any hesitation or inclination of wrongdoing. Then cheering about it. This makes me wonder when kids are actually old enough to comprehend what it is thatthey're doing. I've hunted with a few kids over the years, and it's clear to me that they cannot appreciate the danger/methodology/sportsmanship involved. I guess, maybe at age 8, with dad encouraging him - the kid really didn't know he was doing anything wrong. My point is that anyone who has a hunting license...they should have the presence of mind to know right from wrong. My question is - at what point would the child have the presence of mind to say "Hey, I'm not going to kill this tame animal. It just isn't right." Personally, I think the appreciation of what it is that you're doing, that's a quality that comes with age, but maybe I'm out in left field on this one. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Im happy for the kid he didnt know any better. but thats not how his first bow kill should have been done and im sure he'll feel the same way when he gets older.
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
How would everyone have viewed that video if the kid was sitting in a ground blind in those bushes 10 yards from that feeder?
Look, i don't have a problem with anyone hunting over bait, a food plot whatever. However as dumb as this video looked why would someone who hunts over bait have an issue with this just because they choose to do the same thing from a blind or treestand? |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
that's not the point Danny the feeder is not in question. it's the fact that the deer is odiously tame of some kind even if they visit the feeder all the time there is no way he could just walk up to it and shoot it from 10 yards. I'm all for kids hunting but this is a little much.
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THE VIDEO GOT DELETED LOL
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
I don't want to watch the video,I get enough of a sense from Frans description and the description at ArcheryTalk.When an animal has no fear of you and tolerates your presence with out alarm at such a close distance,you are not hunting that animal you are killing it and there is a world of difference.
How many of us want to watch video's of people killing steers or slaughtering pigs? Not many I would expect.Now there is nothing wrong with raising an animal to butcher it for food for your family.Those animals deserve to be killed quickly and humanely. What is being described is sick in my mind,doesn't provide the dignity to the animal that it deserves and is warping the child's mind as to so many of the critical things that go into being a reverent hunter.Pathetic is the word that comes to mind.I seriously wonder about the perspective that child will have going forward. |
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ORIGINAL: baldntatted THE VIDEO GOT DELETED LOL |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: buck_master_101 ORIGINAL: baldntatted THE VIDEO GOT DELETED LOL Where can we find that? |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: baldntatted that's not the point Danny the feeder is not in question. it's the fact that the deer is odiously tame of some kind even if they visit the feeder all the time there is no way he could just walk up to it and shoot it from 10 yards. I'm all for kids hunting but this is a little much. Bald I hear ya. No doubt was that deer not worried about the kid. Is it really that much different though than if that was not a tame deer, that feeder went off like clockwork every day. Deer came in every day. but this time you set up your blind 10 yards away in those bushes?. So the deer is not tame. It's still an easy kill with no real skill required. So is it really that much different? Believe me i didnt like the video. I dont have a problem with baiting or feeders. I'm just saying that in some situations shooting over bait is not that much different |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: DannyD How would everyone have viewed that video if the kid was sitting in a ground blind in those bushes 10 yards from that feeder? Look, i don't have a problem with anyone hunting over bait, a food plot whatever. However as dumb as this video looked why would someone who hunts over bait have an issue with this just because they choose to do the same thing from a blind or treestand? |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
If the kid was in a blind it would show that the deer are at least similar to the ones I hunt where the sight and smell of a human sends them running. This set up shows that this deer isn;t afraid of people at all. Its like killing a cow when its feeding. The bad part is that this guy is calling it hunting and introducing his kid to it as hunting. All it is is target practice at a live animal. It puts a bad light on hunters and hunting. You can't blame the kid because it isn't his fault he was raised by someone who's never heard the words ethical hunting.
As far as the kill. Obviously the bow is under weight and the only thing that killed the deer was the arrow flopping making that huge hole in the hide. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: goherd1111 ORIGINAL: DannyD How would everyone have viewed that video if the kid was sitting in a ground blind in those bushes 10 yards from that feeder? Look, i don't have a problem with anyone hunting over bait, a food plot whatever. However as dumb as this video looked why would someone who hunts over bait have an issue with this just because they choose to do the same thing from a blind or treestand? Most likely. I often do. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Poor kid if he only knew what hunting was all about. Thats terrible!
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: Crittergiter ORIGINAL: buck_master_101 ORIGINAL: baldntatted THE VIDEO GOT DELETED LOL Where can we find that? |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Pretty sick stuff. :(
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I'm appaled at this intro to hunting... I've got a 6.5yr old boy i'm begining to teach about hunting and the ethics that go with it... trying to point out that its not the kill that's important, its the hunt... my son will NEVER experience hunting like that...
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
[/align] [blockquote] ORIGINAL: quiksilver Two things about that video that really stood out: 1.) Dad's obvious incompetence, lack of morals, complete ineptitude as a parent. 2.) The child walking right up to a domesticated animal, and sticking it from 10 feet awaywitha youth bow- without any hesitation or inclination of wrongdoing. Then cheering about it. This makes me wonder when kids are actually old enough to comprehend what it is thatthey're doing. I've hunted with a few kids over the years, and it's clear to me that they cannot appreciate the danger/methodology/sportsmanship involved. I guess, maybe at age 8, with dad encouraging him - the kid really didn't know he was doing anything wrong. My point is that anyone who has a hunting license...they should have the presence of mind to know right from wrong. My question is - at what point would the child have the presence of mind to say "Hey, I'm not going to kill this tame animal. It just isn't right." Personally, I think the appreciation of what it is that you're doing, that's a quality that comes with age, but maybe I'm out in left field on this one. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
I don't see how there is any debate over this subject at all. The whole thing is disgusting. That poor kid is going to grow up with a murder/kill mentality toward wildlife (and life in general)instead of a deep appreciation and respect for the outdoors and the wildlife in it.
Likeothers said, its just like killing your dog. That deer has become acclimated to humans and trusts them enough to be 10 feet away. This guy almost makes me not want to refer to myself as a hunter. If I was someone who was on the fence about hunting... I would be running to join the loonies at PETA after seeing that video and myspace page. I will be sure to write both Aftershock andDarton to express my thoughts. I hope others will do the same. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: tsoc I don't want to watch the video,I get enough of a sense from Frans description and the description at ArcheryTalk.When an animal has no fear of you and tolerates your presence with out alarm at such a close distance,you are not hunting that animal you are killing it and there is a world of difference. How many of us want to watch video's of people killing steers or slaughtering pigs? Not many I would expect.Now there is nothing wrong with raising an animal to butcher it for food for your family.Those animals deserve to be killed quickly and humanely. What is being described is sick in my mind,doesn't provide the dignity to the animal that it deserves and is warping the child's mind as to so many of the critical things that go into being a reverent hunter.Pathetic is the word that comes to mind.I seriously wonder about the perspective that child will have going forward. |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Wow, proud moment for Darton Archery and Aftershock Archery I am sure.:eek:Great memory for the boy too. [:'(]
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
You beat me to it! I was gonna throw some trash at him too. But I'll just sit back and let you do the dirty work lol :D
That is just ridiculous... an underpowered bow with a tame deer... you can see when the deer is down (looks to me likethe deerwent a long way, or the truck was parked 10 yards from the stand :eek:) that the broadhead cut up the hide because it was dangling out of the deer... I'll put money on it that this guy was desperate for his son to get a deer with a bow. I wonder how much he had to pay... |
RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
if you look who commented on his profile team texas from dream season seems like they would know this is not cool.
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
ORIGINAL: baldntatted if you look who commented on his profile team texas from dream season seems like they would know this is not cool. He's never responded to my emails, by the way. LOL No surprise there... |
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i was compelled to submit a comment to Aftershock also... i couldn't let this slide
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
Unfortunately, I think this is an all to frequent an occurance in the land of big feeders and shooting towers and so called QDM. When a deer spends his entire life seeing the truck come and serve him breakfast and dinner he knows no better. It's down right disgusting alright. A couple weeks ago people on here were expounding on the great analogy of Nuge when he was suggesting baiting was the same as hunting over and acorn grove. Some said he was cool and right on. Now that we see what baiting can really do we're shocked? I'm not. The put out what they call "Supplemental Feed" for the betterment of the herd they say. Really all it is is baiting and allowing them to put more deer in the pen with big horns and call it QDM. It's growing horns and feeding the livestock. We can't have it both ways. Either you support baiting or you fight it in all it's forms, pure bait or QDM food supplements. I find it sickening but am surprised that some who support baiting find this shocking.
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RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
how ya been doing david long time no see?
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