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tsoc 09-06-2007 02:30 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Thanks Troy! I am pleased to see how many of the good folks here are disgusted by this! As Fran would say that seems to be a part of the gene pool that could use some chlorine.(The father)

johnst43 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Just sick. Great way to teach your kid. Good thing he dressed him up in camo.

rybohunter 09-06-2007 03:06 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Just wrong in so many ways.

As far as knowing right from wrong for kids, the adult dad didn't, so where do you draw the line?

If an IQ test was needed to get a hunting license, only about 1% of the people would pass in (insert state you like to pick on here)

baldntatted 09-06-2007 03:12 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
how about PA lmfao JK couldn't resist

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-06-2007 03:16 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: baldntatted

how about PA lmfao JK couldn't resist
No, your right on there...I think I'd make that 1%. ;)

MOTOWNHONKEY 09-06-2007 03:21 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Looked like a good shot atleast.

lpv77 09-06-2007 03:30 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Thats is sick... Does anyone know if that is in relation to the "childers" that post on here??



patgrizzlyhunter 09-06-2007 03:30 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
All i can say is wow what a "hunt"[:'(]. That is sad that the kid is going to think that is what hunting is all about.












BigJ71 09-06-2007 03:45 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: davidmil

Unfortunately, I think this is an all to frequent an occurance in the land of big feeders and shooting towers and so called QDM. When a deer spends his entire life seeing the truck come and serve him breakfast and dinner he knows no better. It's down right disgusting alright. A couple weeks ago people on here were expounding on the great analogy of Nuge when he was suggesting baiting was the same as hunting over and acorn grove. Some said he was cool and right on. Now that we see what baiting can really do we're shocked? I'm not. The put out what they call "Supplemental Feed" for the betterment of the herd they say. Really all it is is baiting and allowing them to put more deer in the pen with big horns and call it QDM. It's growing horns and feeding the livestock. We can't have it both ways. Either you support baiting or you fight it in all it's forms, pure bait or QDM food supplements. I find it sickening but am surprised that some who support baiting find this shocking.
Wow!! Perfect post.

This is why I don't like feeders and baiting. Remember, that deer didn't care/know if it was a boy or a grown man standing there. I'm guessing here but I bet come hunting season the dad is going to "hunt" the same way. He will probablyshoot a big buck and then beat his chest about what a great hunter he is.[:'(]

That's what happens to "free roaming deer" when you start feeding them like pets.


PABuck_HNTR 09-06-2007 03:54 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
From all the responses, I can tell it's something I don't want to watch. I would probably barf

mobow 09-06-2007 03:56 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
I'm thinking I didn't see the same video clip we're talking about maybe.......But the one I saw was a young kid that shot a buck on a feeder, at close range. When they found the animal, it had CLEARLY been shot by a rifle......I've never in my life seen the side of a deer blown out like that from a bow shot.......never.

TFOX 09-06-2007 04:08 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
I don't know about you but when I scrolled down the page,I got real thirsty.:D




I don't condone shooting tame animals and calling it hunting but it doesn't make me sick.As long as the animal is being used.

This is probably a high fenced area as well and the deer are not SUPPOSED to be eligible for the books.

We all eat slaughtered cattle and they are killed for human consumption.This animal was killed for human consumption as well,they just put a tag on it and CALLED IT HUNTING,which it clearly is not.It is killing an animal.

No need to get all upset about it.

Mdbowhunter16 09-06-2007 04:53 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Wow the things people do amaze me.[:'(]

Bailsuk 09-06-2007 05:28 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

I'm thinking I didn't see the same video clip we're talking about maybe.......But the one I saw was a young kid that shot a buck on a feeder, at close range. When they found the animal, it had CLEARLY been shot by a rifle......I've never in my life seen the side of a deer blown out like that from a bow shot.......never.
I'm with ya on that one , the video i saw showed kid put arrow in a tame deer from 8-10ft . But thedeer they found was obviously shot by the guy in the tree blind ,which you see near the pickup . It looked like the arrow had been placed in the wound , not good , not clever , definately a bad way to introduce kids to bowhunting . I think the reason for the music was to cover the sound of the rifle . Lame IMO .

Dave

Hoytail Hunter 09-06-2007 05:39 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

I'm thinking I didn't see the same video clip we're talking about maybe.......But the one I saw was a young kid that shot a buck on a feeder, at close range. When they found the animal, it had CLEARLY been shot by a rifle......I've never in my life seen the side of a deer blown out like that from a bow shot.......never.
It's possible that after the shot(lacking penetration)the dad put some lead through the deer as it limped off. Afterall, the video did show a guy getting out of a treetop blind.

Then again, it's also possible that from thrashing about the deer could've done that to himself. Below is a pic of a buck that I hit high because the arrow hit a small branch on its way to the deer. It hit him just under the spine and from running and thrashing, this is what happened.



lrhuntr 09-06-2007 06:02 PM

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Deleted for skirting the profanity filter.

bkalbach 09-06-2007 07:53 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
profile set to private now. can't even access it.

BowHuntingFool 09-06-2007 07:58 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
More positive advertisement for Aftershock Archery, they are the same company that the guy takes the 74 yard bow shot at the bear![:'(][:'(][:'(]

BowHunterJim 09-06-2007 08:20 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
As a teenager I think that the kid had nothing to do with the hunt other than do what his dad said. When a child is forced into hunting they are not doing it to hunt, they are doing it to kill. Even if they still hunt now they probaly think that its all about the kill when its about the pursuit. Its not the destination you reach, its how you get there is how people should look at hunting. If you hunt for the kill your not hunting. If you put many hours in scouting and shooting then you sit in your stand all day and inthe last hour legal shooting a nice deer walks by and you put a good shot on itthen goes 40 yards. This is hunting. I was not forced to hunt. My dad does not hunt so I dont havea mentality to kill. I want to get my first bow deer with some pride.

Mdbowhunter16 09-06-2007 08:28 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: BowHunterJim

As a teenager I think that the kid had nothing to do with the hunt other than do what his dad said. When a child is forced into hunting they are not doing it to hunt, they are doing it to kill. Even if they still hunt now they probaly think that its all about the kill when its about the pursuit. Its not the destination you reach, its how you get there is how people should look at hunting. If you hunt for the kill your not hunting. If you put many hours in scouting and shooting then you sit in your stand all day and inthe last hour legal shooting a nice deer walks by and you put a good shot on itthen goes 40 yards. This is hunting. I was not forced to hunt. My dad does not hunt so I dont havea mentality to kill. I want to get my first bow deer with some pride.

Sounds like you have got a good head on your shoulders when it comes to hunting. Keep it up!:D

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-06-2007 09:16 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

ORIGINAL: bkalbach

profile set to private now. can't even access it.
YES, the power of positive bowhunters...I wonder if he got the message too?

pa_yote_hunter 09-06-2007 09:29 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 

As a teenager I think that the kid had nothing to do with the hunt other than do what his dad said. When a child is forced into hunting they are not doing it to hunt, they are doing it to kill. Even if they still hunt now they probaly think that its all about the kill when its about the pursuit. Its not the destination you reach, its how you get there is how people should look at hunting. If you hunt for the kill your not hunting. If you put many hours in scouting and shooting then you sit in your stand all day and inthe last hour legal shooting a nice deer walks by and you put a good shot on itthen goes 40 yards. This is hunting. I was not forced to hunt. My dad does not hunt so I dont havea mentality to kill. I want to get my first bow deer with some pride.
i hear ya!!! That is where i am at

wis_bow_huntr 09-07-2007 05:37 AM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Damit, he set his profile to private and I cant see the video untill he would allow me.....

quiksilver 09-07-2007 08:45 AM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Apparently, the guy is a member over at AT, username: "Cornpile" - I blasted him over there, and received a formalreprimand from admin about personal attacks. I really don't care.

He responded to my PM's, basically bragging that his homeboys own Hypershock, and they'll stand behind him no matter what.

I would love to post the PM's that I received, but I will never post a private message, you guys that know me - y'all know that. So, suffice it to say that I will never buy a Hypershock or Darton product from this pointforward.

Jim - Great post. I agree 100%. My dad doesn't hunt much either - I know where you're coming from bro.

Believe me when I say that I'm not one of those hypersensitive people who are always crying about "fuel for the anti's" anytime somebody get out of line... But that video was one of the most over-the-top,reprehensible things I've ever seen. Big props to everyone who sent an email or chimed inand got that video removed. Like Rob said - that's the power of positive people.


bigbulls 09-07-2007 08:48 AM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
Here is my comment to him...

Way to teach your 8 year old son how to shoot what is an obviously perfectly tame deer. It looked as it could have been hand fed and raised indoors. Some hunter you are.

Hopefully your son well realize how incredibly wrong what you are teaching him is and learn to actually hunt with out you leading the way for him.

You should be ashamed to call yourself a hunter, I know I am to have you amongst us and IMHO your so called "pro staff" support should be yanked immediately



And his response...

Sorry, I messed up. Didn't mean to hurt a thing.
The deer was not tame, and he's been taught different than that. You were not there and all this is, is just your opinion. Kinda like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.


He doesn't even know, or simply refuses to realize,he is an idiot and slob hunter teaching his child to be the same thing when he grows up.

I wanted to respond to him again but as you all see his profile is now set to private. :D






SteveO KanevO 09-07-2007 10:15 AM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
There was a post on here last week I think of a guy putting a 74 yard shot on a bear using guess what......Aftershock Maniac Broadheads. He hit the bear in the gut to. I left Aftershock a nice comment on both subjects. I couldnt watch the video but I get the jest of this one without reading. It makes me want to hurl [:'(]thinking about that arrow just flopping around in the deers body cavity. How morbid and insensitive can any one person be. Its a disgrace.

wack 09-10-2007 10:43 PM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
I read all these posts, couldn't see the video's but I think I get the point here. I try not to judge others. Something like this, where the development of A young child is at stake, it's difficult to know when to step in and what to do about it. A man is trying to be a father, at least he's spending time with his kid. More than I can say for my father. At that age I took the rubber tips off my kids bow, sharpened the arrows in a pencil sharpener and went out killing all kinds of critters unsupervised. One day I shot A goose, it flew away with my arrow and made front page news, Got my but beat and never saw another bow until I was an adult. His heart is kind of in the right place, wanting to teach his kid hunting. Unfortunately nobody must have taught him what hunting is about, there fore it's impossible to teach his son. Instead of bashing the man, maybe offer him some friendly advice and tactfully teach him what he needs to know to be able to teach his son?
I hope by all this that something good does become of it. The video isn't posted and video's have a funny way of not always telling the absolute truth. If the man says he made a mistake, then maybe there's some hope for him and his boy after all. Hope so.

wis_bow_huntr 09-11-2007 05:25 AM

RE: Do kids really know right from wrong?? (Amazing video)
 
I couldnt see the video as it appears to be gone. Alot of pig hunting videos now. But from what it sounds to me is this is a classic story of a man who has it all andjust doesnt care. I would never let my son or daughter hunt that way. Im sure hes a good hunter but the way he taught his son was wrong from what I have heard.


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