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thehairlessone 09-03-2007 05:52 AM

Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
I just saw this on myspace. Thought it was neat
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&ChannelID=12 0951810


rick


m00sedrool 09-03-2007 06:38 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Personal opinion: what an idiot to take a shot like that, then admit it was a marginal hit in the guts. If they don't have dogs, they probably don't even find that bear. Ridiculous.

Arjuna 09-03-2007 07:00 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
I agree m00sedrool. That kind of shot and then the justification makes us look bad. Its not even good advertising for Aftershock. JMHO

IUSEPSE 09-03-2007 07:01 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Not to keen on the prospect of taking a 70 plus yard shot at a bear. To many things can go wrong. That bear heard the arrow coming through the air and was checking out. Guess that is why it hit the belly area. Not to ethical even if you can shoot that far at a target IMHO.

Diesel77 09-03-2007 07:27 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
I dont know anything about the shooter or his skills so its hard to completely flame the shot.Butfor the typical shooter thats nota very ethical or responsible shot thats for sure. Good thing they had tracking dogs. Glad they recovered the bear.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-03-2007 07:29 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: m00sedrool

Personal opinion: what an idiot to take a shot like that, then admit it was a marginal hit in the guts. If they don't have dogs, they probably don't even find that bear. Ridiculous.
I have to agree. It's obvious he couldn't make the shot because if he could have, he would have. Way to many variables to go wrong on a very alert animal. Very poor decision to take the shot, very poor decision to video that shot, very poor decision to brag about the shot, very poor shot placement, very poor advertisement and very lucky hunter who should be thankful for tracking dogs.

Red Boar 09-03-2007 07:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: m00sedrool

Personal opinion: what an idiot to take a shot like that, then admit it was a marginal hit in the guts. If they don't have dogs, they probably don't even find that bear. Ridiculous.
I have to agree. It's obvious he couldn't make the shot because if he could have, he would have. Way to many variables to go wrong on a very alert animal. Very poor decision to take the shot, very poor decision to video that shot, very poor decision to brag about the shot, very poor shot placement, very poor advertisement and very lucky hunter who should be thankful for tracking dogs. I'm thinking of writing the broadhead co.
Couldn't of said it better...good post. Hunters come under enough scrutiny without adding fuel to the fire.

hardcorehunter 09-03-2007 07:32 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Cool Video, and a Bowtech Guardian nonetheless.:D It definately shows why the speed of sound at 1128 fps can't be beat even with the fastest and quietest bow.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-03-2007 07:44 AM

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Not a bad looking broadhead tho. I was going to try one for free as advertised on their website until I saw the.....$7.95 for shipping and handling...LOL[&:];)[8D]

meh101465 09-03-2007 07:46 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
poor guy ..maybe he can get close next time . you can drive a car with your foot , but that dont mean you should .

we're all presented with marginal shots , using good judgment is sometimes clouded by the need to fill a tag, or in some cases , to make a video .

i've seen more than one video where the guy makes a bad shot.........one in perticular the guy says it was a bad shot , but its the only one i had . I dont watch this guy any more.

Finch 09-03-2007 07:57 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Definitely not a shot I would have considered. Bear started heading back for the woods before the arrow got there.

bloodcrick 09-03-2007 08:24 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Not to smart at all. Does any one think he looks like the Brian from the tv series T.A.P.S. (ghost hunters) ? :Dor is it just me :eek:

bkalbach 09-03-2007 08:49 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
i question wether or not that arrow "passed right through".

Chris_H 09-03-2007 09:09 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Well I'm not gonna criticize this guy... If he's good enough to make the shot, then why not take it? Now, if he wasn't sure if he could make that, then thats a different story; it'd be poor judgement to attempt a shot that you aren't sure of. He killed the bear, didn't he? He also hit it in the vitals. I'm new to bowhunting, but I'm gonna stick with my opinion. If you're good enough to take a bear at 74 yds, do it. If you're good enough to take an elk at 834 yds with your rifle, then why not take the shot? Just my 2 cents.

spudrow 09-03-2007 09:13 AM

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I agree. The shot should not have been made. Ridiculous.


Spudrow from Mo




Bullet Hole Bailey 09-03-2007 09:16 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: Red Boar


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: m00sedrool

Personal opinion: what an idiot to take a shot like that, then admit it was a marginal hit in the guts. If they don't have dogs, they probably don't even find that bear. Ridiculous.
I have to agree. It's obvious he couldn't make the shot because if he could have, he would have. Way to many variables to go wrong on a very alert animal. Very poor decision to take the shot, very poor decision to video that shot, very poor decision to brag about the shot, very poor shot placement, very poor advertisement and very lucky hunter who should be thankful for tracking dogs. I'm thinking of writing the broadhead co.
Couldn't of said it better...good post. Hunters come under enough scrutiny without adding fuel to the fire.
I couldnt have either. Hunters like that just keep the fires burning.

standsleeper 09-03-2007 09:47 AM

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[blockquote]I agree with just about everything Rob has to say. This is no exception. The guy said it was a marginal shot . He knew it was a bad decision. The bear turned into the shot as it was heading for the woods. What would have happened if he didn't turn before the arrow got there? That was the most rediculous thing I have seen filmed, not to mention bragged about.[/blockquote]

JeramyK 09-03-2007 09:53 AM

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I agree, that shot should not have been taken. Looks like he is only using a 3 pin sight and I'd behe probably doesn't have a pin after 50 yards. That leaves even more guess work on an already marginal shot.

pa_yote_hunter 09-03-2007 10:52 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
should never take that shot....if you cant get closer to the animal just dont let arrows fly and pray that it will find its target.

Trex 09-03-2007 11:47 AM

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In response to hardcorehunter's comments. I have often wondered if an animal such as this bear or a deer have faster reaction times than do we humans? I guess my question is does the physiology of an animal permit it to react faster to a stimulus than a human under the same conditions? Do neurons travel faster in animals which allow them to have a quicker reaction?
Maybe too deep fordiscussion here but it seems to me that if I was walking along in the woods with no idea that anyoneelse was around that I would not be able to react to the sound of a bow shot as quickly as a deer under those circumstances.
I must be spending too much idle time thinking in my tree stand.

tsoc 09-03-2007 11:51 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Not something I would have done nor something I respect.Why the broadhead company believes that worthy of endorsement escapes me.


mathews outback 09-03-2007 11:59 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
WHAT A BAD SHOT,THESE KIND OF PEOPLE RUIN GOOD ETHICAL HUNTERS CHANCES TO OBTAIN PROPERTIES TO HUNT,THIS SHOT WAS HIGHLY UNETHICAL AND WHY WOULD YOU SHOW SUCH A BAD SHOT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR A BRAND OF BROADHEADS,BAD ADVERTISEMENT,LIKE A GUY SAID ON A PREVIOUS POST NO DOGS NO BEAR

rankbull 09-03-2007 03:56 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
not my "cup of tea"

James Vee 09-03-2007 04:18 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!

Dr Andy 09-03-2007 04:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: James Vee

Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!
Marginal shot or not you're right he got the job done. At least he admitted it was a marginal shot. How often do you see a marginal shot on TV and the guy brags on what a great shot it was! At least he fessed-up. I won't shoot past 30 but thats me you gotta know your own limitations!

johnst43 09-03-2007 06:01 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Not only was it to far. I would have to wait for the bear to put his right leg forward. Seems to me the shoulder blade would be blocking alot of the vitals.

m00sedrool 09-03-2007 07:25 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: Dr Andy


ORIGINAL: James Vee

Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!
Marginal shot or not you're right he got the job done. At least he admitted it was a marginal shot. How often do you see a marginal shot on TV and the guy brags on what a great shot it was! At least he fessed-up. I won't shoot past 30 but thats me you gotta know your own limitations!
Job well done? Who knows how long that bear suffered and how far it went after being gut shot. Again...I'm betting without dogs, he goeshome empty handed. Just because the end result is a dead bear doesn't make it a good job in my book. And as far as admitting it was a marginal hit....hello...you took a ridiculously long shot and hoped it would make contact somewhere. You can disagree all you want, but that's just irresponsible on his part.

jsay 09-03-2007 07:30 PM

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Personally, I don't really care who the shooter was. A 75 yard shot is unethical. Too many things can happen and I don't care if the archer practices everyday on a target at 100 yards, that target isn't moving.

James Vee 09-03-2007 07:36 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.

Predator19 09-03-2007 08:27 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
2 words.......MORE ON

Buck_Slayer 09-03-2007 08:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Predator19

2 words.......MORE ON
haha, I hope that was supposed to be a joke...

Chris_H 09-03-2007 08:51 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: m00sedrool


ORIGINAL: Dr Andy


ORIGINAL: James Vee

Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!
Marginal shot or not you're right he got the job done. At least he admitted it was a marginal shot. How often do you see a marginal shot on TV and the guy brags on what a great shot it was! At least he fessed-up. I won't shoot past 30 but thats me you gotta know your own limitations!
Job well done? Who knows how long that bear suffered and how far it went after being gut shot. Again...I'm betting without dogs, he goeshome empty handed. Just because the end result is a dead bear doesn't make it a good job in my book. And as far as admitting it was a marginal hit....hello...you took a ridiculously long shot and hoped it would make contact somewhere. You can disagree all you want, but that's just irresponsible on his part.
Agreed James Vee and Andy. Like I said before, if you can make a 74 yard shot, then why not do it? And hell, moosedrool, it killed the bear. Do you know what bears can take? Have you ever read "The Great Alaskan Bear Tales" by Larry Kanuit? Bears can take multiple shots to the heart and skull and continue to live with calibers like .375 H&H. Of course, the bears adrenalin is pumping and the bears were furious... But the thing I'm trying to get at here is that there is nothing wrong with a gut shot. Nothing at all. In some people opinion, a gut shot is better than a heart shot because the heart cannot pump blood after being shot, therefore, a smaller blood trail. Definitely not irresponsible. Hell... for all you know, this guy could be the "Babe Ruth" of bowhunting. He killed the bear. Done deal. If you're experience enough to do it, then by god be an over achiever.

Excellent shot for 74 yards!

Red Boar 09-03-2007 09:03 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: James Vee

Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!
The end doesn't justify the means. Occasionally a good thing can happen from a very bad decision...hopefully it doesn't encourage him to try it again the next time.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-03-2007 09:04 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: Chris_H


ORIGINAL: m00sedrool


ORIGINAL: Dr Andy


ORIGINAL: James Vee

Am I the only one that wants to give this dude a high five and tell him great shot on a great bear? Job well done, bear rug on the way!
Marginal shot or not you're right he got the job done. At least he admitted it was a marginal shot. How often do you see a marginal shot on TV and the guy brags on what a great shot it was! At least he fessed-up. I won't shoot past 30 but thats me you gotta know your own limitations!
Job well done? Who knows how long that bear suffered and how far it went after being gut shot. Again...I'm betting without dogs, he goeshome empty handed. Just because the end result is a dead bear doesn't make it a good job in my book. And as far as admitting it was a marginal hit....hello...you took a ridiculously long shot and hoped it would make contact somewhere. You can disagree all you want, but that's just irresponsible on his part.
Agreed James Vee and Andy. Like I said before, if you can make a 74 yard shot, then why not do it? And hell, moosedrool, it killed the bear. Do you know what bears can take? Have you ever read "The Great Alaskan Bear Tales" by Larry Kanuit? Bears can take multiple shots to the heart and skull and continue to live with calibers like .375 H&H. Of course, the bears adrenalin is pumping and the bears were furious... But the thing I'm trying to get at here is that there is nothing wrong with a gut shot. Nothing at all. In some people opinion, a gut shot is better than a heart shot because the heart cannot pump blood after being shot, therefore, a smaller blood trail. Definitely not irresponsible. Hell... for all you know, this guy could be the "Babe Ruth" of bowhunting. He killed the bear. Done deal. If you're experience enough to do it, then by god be an over achiever.

Excellent shot for 74 yards!
He OBVIOUSLY wasn't good enough to take the shot and again, HAD the animal (bear) not moved the shot would have been worse! LUCK, PURE LUCK it turned out the way it did.

I'd bet the truth of the matter is they would have NEVER found that bear without the dogs....PATHETIC shot! Let's all take HAIL MARY shots, who cares if we hit the deer in the guts, the dogs will find them.

PATHETIC!

And in the words of Forest Gump. "And that's all I have to say about that. "

CAJUNBOWHNTR 09-03-2007 09:12 PM

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But the thing I'm trying to get at here is that there is nothing wrong with a gut shot. Nothing at all. In some people opinion, a gut shot is better than a heart shot because the heart cannot pump blood after being shot, therefore, a smaller blood trail. Definitely not irresponsible.

Holy cow! do you really believe that a gut shot is better than a heart shot.[:o]

CB

James Vee 09-03-2007 09:12 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Initially I had not planned on posting at all on this thread. But after reading three pages of bandwagon flaming for a bear killed with archery tackle at a distance of 74 yards I thought I would say a word for those of us who do not make congratulatory posts on threads where a flaming is inevitable.

That being said, on behalf of those posters who wish to congratulate the hunter on a job well done, CONGRATULATIONS. ;)

thehairlessone 09-03-2007 09:30 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 

ORIGINAL: jsay

Personally, I don't really care who the shooter was. A 75 yard shot is unethical. Too many things can happen and I don't care if the archer practices everyday on a target at 100 yards, that target isn't moving.
I dont know if I really agree with alot of these statements. I personally would probly never even think of trying that even though I am sure I can make it.

75 yds. at a huge animallike a buffalo or an elk for example wouldnt be that far fetched in my opinion for the right shooter. Heck I have seen videos where guys have taken turkeys at 50 yds. and a javalina at 55-60 yds.

It all depends on the shooter .

From what I could tell it looked like that arrow caught the bear in the vitals too. I didnt think it looked like a bad hit but the hunter probly hadnt seen it in slow motion.

I thought it was a hell of a shot. Now would I try that on a bear? Heck no.

Would I try it on another animal? Possibly depending on the size of the animal and the conditions,etc.

Last year I shot a turkey target at a 3-D shoot that was at least 70 yds. Does that mean it would be ethical for me to take that shot at a real turkey? Heck no.

Would it be ethical for me to take a 70 yd. shot on a moose? Only I can decide that.

Rick

BowHuntingFool 09-03-2007 09:32 PM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
Why didn't the Moron just use a gun???? Thats the thrill of bowhunting, getting them in close!!!!!!!!!!!

dkbs 09-04-2007 05:09 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
First of all, I know there are idiots out there attempting these shots on wild game animals. So he shot the bear at 74 yards, big deal, how many more are missed at those long ranges. So you take the long shots on game so occasionally people can slap you on the back and say way to go. We never hear, nor do we want to, about the misses and much worse wounded animals taken from marginal shots.

And what about a company that uses this for marketing their products. PATHETIC!

If I've offended somebody, I meant to!

Dan

tsoc 09-04-2007 06:14 AM

RE: Cool Video! 74 yd. shot on a bear
 
You have got to be kidding me!! You can't possibly be serious!


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