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Oh crap Jeff, I quite watching the guy over a year ago, maybe He said 15 to 20 yards, Sue me!
I dont care if the guy kills a Grizzly by shoving a toothpick up its hind quarters, I dont care how he hunts!
What I do care about is whenanIgnorant HipacraticalMoron that hashis own showon national TV go's out ofhis way to say Bear Baitingisunethical and should be banned,and have a problem with it, and without going into another lengthly post I will say this, You will never see him stalking a Bear in MI, on his show!

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:D:D:D Ain't Rednecks dangerous behind a cumpooter!!!

What is it about him that pisses me off so bad ???

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Fair enough (your opinion) I guess.....but it has nothing to do with this thread.

I could care less if Michael Vick goes down a razor blade laden slide into a pool of alcohol......but that takes nothing away from the fact that he's a damned good NFL quarterback.

Tred hunts the hard way.....regardless of personal opinionsRE: his "attitude".

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Most over-used phrases on hunting shows:

1."I do things the hard way, the Barta way"
2."The beast is dead, long live the beast"

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Amen. Ted needs some new lines.

I think the Celebrity Deathmatch between the two would be hilarious. My money is on Ted. Deathblow administered by flaming zebra guitar!!

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I wouldLove to see that fight, I would have to put money on Tred though, Rear naked choke then sckewered with unstrung longbow!

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While Tred was figuring out a hard way to defeat Ted, Ted would have already "strangle held" him....Ted has my vote.

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I dont think your laughing as hard as I am! I asked a simple question, and stated what I thought about the guy, it was You and Jeff that Freaked out and attacked me. Heck Im a nice Guy, I can evean overlook the ignorant remark you made about the money, even if it was a delusional assumption on your part that thats what I ment. I mean your probably the only one on this forum that thinks thats what I was implying, sowho are all the little faces laughing at?

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i dont like the guy. hes a horrible hunter in my opinion. i change the channel everytime and hes way to cocky and full of himself

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Sliver you can spin it any way you want. I never got upset at you. I get upset when guys add 2 + 2 and come up with 4 and tell me they don't like "4" because it's an ******* number.

Still 4, ain't it?

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Unfortunately Versus doesnt run too many hunting shows except early Sat and Sun morning when Im usually always busy doing stuff. How many guys get to lay around til noon on weekends watching TV?Sometimes they run some shows in the afternoons. So, it doesnt really matter what celeb is on. I'd watch Martha Stewart chasing pigs with a bowie knife if thats all I had to watch. And I do watch Tred, he is a little over the top for sure, some of his opinions dont line up with mine, but Like I said, I dont get to watch TV often so I take what I can get.

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Since when does Tred do it the hard way?

He hunts at some the best ranches in the West, goes to very low pressure areas like British Columbia, etc. Anyone who gets the chance to stalk 34 mule deer in the same trip, and take multiple shots, doesn't exactly have it hard.

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Do us both a favor Jeff and go back and read my first post, then read your reply to me and your next post befor I could even answer the first one, and Im sure you can see that you put the spin on your own thread.
If you can add 2+2 and come up with 4, Then I am sure you knew when you posted a thread about Tred, someone was going to say something bad about him unless you have had your head under a rock since you been a member on this forum, and I dont think thats the case.
You think he does things the hard way, thats ok with me! However, I see him as a threat to something myself and many others in this State faught hard to keep, and every time I see his name come up on one of these threads I feel obligated to let everyone know I think he's a Blabbering Hypocritical A$$. But thats just me!

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and he has taken shots over 100 yards with the wind blowing. i dont like the fact that he just shoots at anything that moves. he misses a lot too.

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Where's the "spin"? I asked if you'd ever shot a longbow......which I equate to doing it the hard way.

Well.....that's why I prefaced the entire thread with this in the VERY FIRST POST ON THE THREAD.

Holy ****. I feel like I've just been read the "american way" speech by the Delta's before they walked out of the fraternity hearing in Animal House.

HOW did we get to that????

Amazing......simply amazing.

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For heavens sakes it is a Reality "Show". The guy is clearly concerned in ratings so he can make a buck. Yeah, he does some things the hard way. I do too. Does that make me smarter? No! Does it make him have to work harder to get what he wants? Yes! He is basically showing the general public if they want to waste countless hours doing it his way with mediocre success, they can. I for one, would rather spend my time learning how to do it right, and then use it for helping someone else. He is not helping anyone. He is lining his pockets. It's all about him and doing it his way. Well, wake up and smell the coffee. An ego is a terrible thing to display to the public.

LT

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Think of it this way, LT......

Fred Eichler basically does it the same way Tred does (most of the time)......but who do you think sells more books/hunts/air time?

I'd say his ego was selling pretty good.. He is not an unintelligent man (and, again....I wouldn't walk to the end of the street to hunt with the guy).

The post was......about how he hunts. Not about how he is as a person.

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Being full of pride and a haughty spirit always goeth before a fall. I did not want to resort to the "Word", but it's the truth no matter how you look at it. If this guy did everything he does with an humble attitude he would probably be a much greater success. Like I said, egos are a terrible thing to display.

LT

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LT...

Go back and read my initial post. This thread was supposed to be about how he hunts.....and not what kind of person he is. I don't like the guy, either. It has nothing to do with how he hunts, though.

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And you don't feel the two go hand in hand ?

I don't find it "hard" to miss or wound the animals I hunt. I find it wrong.

As hunters it should be our passion to kill as quickly and as humanly as possible. Any thing else is unacceptable.
And to profit from incompetence makes not only Tred but fans of Tred appear as incompetent.
If you want to do it the "hard" way cut your legs off or stick a sharp stick into your shooting eye,that would make it "hard" .To purposely go out and promote the maiming and wounding of animals is as wrong as trout fishing with dynamite.

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No. No I don't. I thought Pete Rose was an arrogant SOB, too. It doesn't detract from the fact that the record books show him to be the most prolific base hitter of all time. So.....No....I don't think it does have anything to do with it. I thinka person could be a miserable human being and a damned fine hunter. I'm betting I'm proven correct thousands of times a year.

Tred promotes this? I missed that.

So now he's "incompetent"? There's a stretch (and I knew you wouldn't let a chance to isnult pass you by;))

Interesting theory. Do this and I'll watch your show and start a thread about you!

Give me a link to that episode. I missed it.

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Is Michael Vick a good NFL quarterback?

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Yeah Jeff, and look at the shining example of a legend Pete Rose will leave behind. (and the Vickster) Being good at what you do, hunting, ect. is all well and fine. It's when you crap up your image and show it to the world that it becomes an issue. I agree, the post was about his way, the Tred way. Hunting his way is just not hunting to "me".

LT

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Since when did doing things the hard way make you cool? If he was digging a pond with a spoon everyone would think he was nuts. I've seen several episodes of his show. I don't watch it much anymore, not due to his attitude or how he hunts. I prefer to watch whitetail hunting, and he does very little of that.

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The rose colored glasses that you view this world with truly amaze me.
They give you the side of people I really see. In your mind you have the ability to completely remove the worst of human traits and replace them with praise for meaningless attributes.
You continue to praise Pete Rose because he of his ball hitting ability while being completely blind to the facts that the man is a admitted criminal an abusive father and an all around butt wipe. I'm sure you can find solace in Ray Lewis and his return to the fine game of football, Helluva a guy. And of course Vick is a great quarterback in your mind.In mine he is only out of jail because of who he is and in your mind he is only in trouble because of who he is.
Your choice of admirable people and mine are vastly different.

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I have nothing against Tred. I've seen his show a couple times. He only does it the hard way because he uses equipment he can't hit anything with...LOL. You can't really compare him to Fred Bear. Fred was a much better shot. My only problem with Tred is that he tells you his effective range then goes out and flings arrows all over theplanet at animals too far for him.I don't think that helps are sport very well when non hunters may be watching. I look at his show as entertainment only. But that's how I look at all thehunting shows on T.V. I would much rather (and have) hang out with Fred Eichler. His head isn't swelling up and he puts a down to earth show on T.V. He's also probably killed a lot more animals then Tred. And he did do that harder then Tred has.

Darrall Dougherty

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I said Tred hunted the hard way......and acknowledge that despite all of his social misgivings......Vick is an accomplished NFL quarterback.That's not rose colored glasses.......that's not admitting you're BLIND.

Wrong....again. I give him credit for being the most prolific base hitter the game's ever known (admit to NOT being blind)....and agree to him being a butt-wipe.

Wrong, AGAIN......but is he a good player?

It's got nothing to do with my opinion. His numbers don't lie.

Wrong....AGAIN (see apattern?) I think he should be put away for more than he's gonna get......and you putting thoughts and words in my mouth is ringing hollow to your argument.

Show me where I ONCE said I admired them as people. You can't.

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I have to agree with buttonbuckmaster on this. OK, so Tred says he does it the hard way...well not exactly. To me, the hard way DOES involve a longbow. However, the hard way also involves being proficient with the longbow. The hard way involves, getting close enough to make a high percentage shot. If this means 50 unsuccessful stalks to one kill then so bit it. That's why it's called the hard way. The hard way means that you bust your a$$, you are 100% confident in your shooting ability with the equipment you use and you leave the bells and whistles of modern hunting behind. To me, Fred Bear did it the hard way...not Tred Barta. I've watched multiple shows of Barta hunting with his long bow only to see him shoot at running deer from 40 yards, try and stalk close enough to a caribou only to get sighted at over 40 yards but let an arrow go anyway and wingshoot at geese. The only one I didn't see him make a stupid shot in was when he was hunting coyotes and that's only because his guide wouldn't let him. Tred Barta is a fisherman first and foremost. "The hard way" mentality for fishing is fine. If you handline tuna on 2 pound test the fish swims away with a hook in it's mouth...worst case scenario. You don't have a caribou with an arrow sticking out of it's leg or an injured goose flying away never to be found. What I'd really like to know is how many animals were injured at the hands of Barta but never made it to the screen. There's no way someone lets that many arrows fly the way he does and doesn't wound something.

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Anybody who doesn't like Barta ever thought about turning off the frickin' TV when his show comes on? Tred bashing is getting more than just a bit B-O-R-I-N-G!

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Well I am glad to see you agree with me. ;)
Praise is something that is earned .Tred in my eyes has not earned it.
I am not sure it is possible to Host a TV show that All Hunters would watch & support ,but I do feel there is a lot of room for improvement over what we presently have.
Editing seems to be a real weak spot in what is acutely seen by viewers and what sees the floor.
The way I see itsports stars gone bad is if their names are never spoken again in public then the very fame they seek will be rightfully taken away.
Pete Rose comes to my mind as a prime example of name notoriety.[:'(]

Have a good one ,Jim

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Tred endorses a product that my company makes, and I have met him and talk with him when he came in for a tour of the plant. The guy isn't asbig of a jerkas you might think from watching his shows. He has a good sense of humor and is a blast to talk to. I honestly have never tried to hunt like he does and for that I could never comment or put the guy down for that.

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I don't really have an opinion on Tred, but I have to disagree with your assessment of Michael Vick as a "damned good" NFL quarterback. He is (was) mediocre at best. He is a world class athlete for sure, and fun to watch, but he was only average at the quarterback position.

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I have a feeling.....that if Fred Bear's hunting escapades were all filmed......he'd disappoint a LOT of people.

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Jeff,
Many of them are on film.

Darrall Dougherty

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I think if you film just about anybody that hunts your goin to see some unethical actions, because whats unethical to onemay not be to another

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He is an average qb, just like Tred is an average hunter. There are many better qb's, and many better hunters.

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So.....out of 200+ D1 football progarms......where about <1% of all high school football players get to go on scholarship.......he was one of the 10 or so quarterbacks drafted......signed.....and that rose to starting status.

I'd take those "elite" percentages. Bottom line is.....they're both damned good at what they do.

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This forum should be locked. No one is going to gain from saying if they like the show more or less. He makes his living hunting, many people dont and are jelous of that. Just my own two cents.