Thats pretty cool,Hope you get-em.

I mean standing (or laying) just like he is.

Forgive me guys....I'm not familiar with the jargon ....having only hunted 2 seasons. I understand "field dressed" weight......but I live so close to my hunting areas....I weigh them "entrails incl." or live weight.

Wowbig deer...below off the Pa DNR websight:

In Pennsylvania the average adult buck weighs about 140 pounds live weight and stands 32 to 34 inches at the shoulder. He is about 70 inches long from the tip of his nose to the base of his tail. His tail vertebrae add only about 11 inches, but the long hair makes it far more conspicuous. Does tend to average less in weight and body length than males of the same age from the same area.

Cool.

I weighed my 2.5 yr old last year @ 172 lbs.....Sept. 30th. The 3.5 yr old I killed weighed 171 lbs.....taken 12/12.

"average", though.....lol....What's an "adult buck"? 1.5? 2.5? 3.5?

If you take out the BB's and the 1.5 yr olds....that information is just plain false. Add in MY 1.5 yr olds....and they won't go 125 lbs....except in rare occurrences. Most 2.5 yr olds here won't go 140, either. Some will go way over that.

I kinda tend to target the bigger ones I have, here. No sense in shooting a 130 lb 2.5 yr old.....or ANY 1.5 yr old (in MY opinion.....in MY woods). You guys do what makes you happy.

I think our deer are actually growing as far as body weight. I find that 140 average to be a tad short coming.

My 2.5, 3.5 year old bucks I've taken the last 6 years all go over 150 and more towards 175 if not more.

A budy of mine took a 217 lb field dressed buck at his cabin, weighed in at a meat locker, biggest bodied buck I've ever seen. It filled his Dakota bed, would have been a 240 plus pound deer live.

I'm not sure I ever took a 200 lb deer yet myself, never weighed them however I'd surmise they are clearly 160 plus.....

140 average seems very low. I also wonder if that were summer weight, winter weight or when?

I agree with the summer/winter thing. I know the trasnformation they go through between now and prime acorn time is phenomenal. Then...they lose weight during the rut (bucks).

When would they be estimating them?

I don't know..as an estimate I would think that they take the averages for age structureand the average of winter weight vs summer weight etc. Only by combining all the ranges could one make a reasonable estimate.

I agree, GR8......makes sense.

There was a 2.5 yr old last year that I think was another 160-170lb'er......the half-rack. Other than that one deer.......it would have been a 3.5 or older to get that kind of weight here.

One1.5yr old that might have gone 140, also. THAT deer will test me if I see him, THIS year. I hope he stays just out of range.

Live weight = on the hoof

Just thought you would like to know.

I appreciate it duc....but I "Assumed" everyone knew when I give a deer's weight that it was live weight....if I didn't say (_____lbs, field dressed).

Thats what I meant.