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Charlie P 08-14-2007 09:31 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
I see alot of people talking about swirling winds. I kept a diary on my hunting for a few years and you know what the best stand location was when the winds swirled?








































My fishing boat.

brucelanthier 08-14-2007 09:34 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

ORIGINAL: Charlie P


If you don't chase them they eventually just walk off having learned once again that a human is not necessarily a threat.
Well when I'm out there I am a threat.:D


LOL well I can't be until sept 15 but then..........;):D

GMMAT 08-14-2007 09:35 AM

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After growing up on a farm, and seeing the animals react to me working in the field or whileon heavy machinery as compared to say me trying to be stealthy while in a tree on the edge of a bedding area and getting winded.........the deer do react differently. I do believe deer can be conditioned to react in different ways to different types of disturbances and pressure.
Matt.....this and the rest of your thread I can also attest to. But....you were talking about getting down from a stand in hunting season....crossing a piece of property .....and climbing back up. "I" just happen to think the deer there see you as a threat no matter how you're walking.

Thats all I meant. I see deer around humans all the time. They're "fairly" tolerant UNTIL something out of the ordinary happens. Then...they're wilder than the farm deer/tractor scenario I can assure you......even though they're association with humans would lead many to think they're "acclaimated".

Charlie P 08-14-2007 09:37 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

I know of no better way of ruining a great stand than by hunting it when the wind is wrong.
In certain situations...I can see this.
I had the same type question. What situation other the sitting your buddy on the other side of the thicket would this be a good idea?

bawanajim 08-14-2007 09:38 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


and in what situations would this be a good idea.
I never said there was one.


Because I have hunted my woods for fifteen years
And that qualifies you to know the thought processes going through a deer's mind? KUDOS!! Do you know if the 8=pointer bangin the split-eared doe is wishing he was with someone else?


All I'm saying is you can do anything you want but if you think you will kill a mature buck without knowing how the wind affects his life you are mistaken.
I never said this. The only mature buck I've killed in 2 seasons didn't know I was there for a reason.




Well I sure as hell didn't mean to over step your two years experience.
As I have stated repeatedly hunt as you want>>>>>>>>>>>.
Hunt in pink and use old spice for an attractant.I don't care How you hunt.
What I am sayingisthe wind is a deers best defense if you foil it you win if you don't , well who knows with your remarkable sense of reasoning maybe making loud noises will help you over come their sense of hearing also.

Good luck .Jim

Charlie P 08-14-2007 09:41 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

But....you were talking about getting down from a stand in hunting season....crossing a piece of property .....and climbing back up.
You can accomplish this in as little as 20 -40 yards especially if using a climber.

If I'm hunting a trail and the wind changes I could easily move to the other side of trial.

GMMAT 08-14-2007 09:44 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

Well I sure as hell didn't mean to over step your two years experience.
As I have stated repeatedly hunt as you want>>>>>>>>>>>.
Hunt in pink and use old spice for an attractant.I don't care How you hunt.
What I am sayingisthe wind is a deers best defense if you foil it you win if you don't , well who knows with your remarkable sense of reasoning maybe making loud noises will help you over come their sense of hearing also.
Thats usually what it resorts to with you, Jim.:eek:


What I am sayingisthe wind is a deers best defense
I agree.


if you foil it you win if you don't , well who knows
ALL I'm saying is you don't know, either way. If you've ever shot a deer that came in from downwind of your stand....you make my case.


maybe making loud noises will help you over come their sense of hearing also.
How many buck growls, buck roars, cans, grunt tubes, etc.. are sold every year?






GMMAT 08-14-2007 09:49 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

You can accomplish this in as little as 20 -40 yards especially if using a climber.

If I'm hunting a trail and the wind changes I could easily move to the other side of trial.
Charlie I know this.....and I hunta climber almost exclusively. I try my darndest to not only play the wind.....but in 46 hunts....I hunted the same tree, only twice, last year. I subscribe to the practice to a certain point......but then I figure I've done all I can do. If the wind shifts ....I ride it out. I know I've killed deer this way, too. My first was killed this way. He was with 20 or more that came from downwind of me.

SteveO KanevO 08-14-2007 09:53 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
I shot a deer downwind one time.......[:-]. Seriously though, I have and I believe everybody has shot a deer that traveled to a downwind position or came in from downwind. This is MADNESS!!!.....THIS...IS....SPARTAAAAAAAAA!

Charlie P 08-14-2007 10:03 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

I subscribe to the practice to a certain point......but then I figure I've done all I can do
Must be because you wear one of those fancy suits that let you forget the wind and just hunt and I don't.;)[8D]


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