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GMMAT 08-15-2007 09:14 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
Hey Jim.....Just so I know who I'm talking with (ya know...with the internet thing and all)......post up some photos of your past few years mature bucks. You were in the contest, weren't you?

Heck...I only killed my first five with the bow last year.

Germ 08-15-2007 09:18 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim


ORIGINAL: Germ

GMMAT just because a mature deer does not "work" a scrape does no mean he did not check it.

Most of the time IMO mature deer check them from down wind side where they can not be seen. Why I seldom sit "over" a scrape, but in funnel he may use to scent check it from a distance. I will be downind from the scrape, and be setup so the deer is in front of me.
Yea but ..but..but if he sees you your screwed anyway. [:o] ;)
I am like a panther in the tree:D



Not the reason I stated he didn't work it.
Ok I am out

Charlie P 08-15-2007 09:25 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

Heck...I only killed my first five with the bow last year.
Wow I wouldn't have known that if you didn't posted around a hundred times since the season ended.

Not that hard to do especially if your hunting a zoo.:D

GMMAT 08-15-2007 09:31 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
And the insults keep coming!

That's a great way to bolster a point!:eek:


Not that hard to do especially if your hunting a zoo.:D

That used to bother me......now I see it for what it is. See above.

Charlie P 08-15-2007 09:32 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
If you think that was insult your skin is very thin.


That used to bother me......now I see it for what it is.
Obviously you didn't see it for what it was.

Charlie P 08-15-2007 09:36 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

Heck...I only killed my first five with the bow last year.

Who an inexperienced bowhunter, wait that's right you gained way more experience by shooting those five in one season then a guy that has hunted for years and only shot three.

Charlie P 08-15-2007 09:40 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

Hey Jim.....Just so I know who I'm talking with (ya know...with the internet thing and all)......post up some photos of your past few years mature bucks. You were in the contest, weren't you?

Geez I don't take a lot of photo's nor do I enter contests I guess I have no experience.

Ok i'm done.

GregH 08-15-2007 09:48 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

So Greg....if they see you move......they're not alerted to your presence? In my eyes...there's as good a chance of this occurring as what you guys are putting out there (though neither scenario is absolute).

Seems to me it's a "catch-22".


If the weather report says one thing and you get to your stand and find that the wind is not right for your stand, why on earth would you sit there anyway and alert the deer to your presence and stand location??

I don't know if I'd go that far. If I haven't climbed the tree....I can still move. If I'm up there, though.....I'm there. Right or wrong.

It is possible to get down from a stand and leave the area undetected, I've done it many times.

If a buck sees you of course he's alerted to your presence. A deer isn't like a light switch, either on or off, there are many variables that attribute the accuteness of their alarm. Like humans, you see a shady looking person standing on the street between you and your parked car. No visable weapons and he's not doing anything out of the ordinary. Do you .... A) Run terrified in the opposite direction for your life
B) Circle quietly around
C) Cautiously approach keeping an eye on him.
For deer, the higher the degree of alarm, the more drastic the method of survival is. This is the same for their memory too. If you shoot at a buck and slightly wound it, there's a good chance you won't see him from your stand for the rest of the season. If he busts you in your stand, you may or may not see him again from your stand and if you do, it will be from a safer distance. He will be eyeballing your stand. If he sees you walking out in a calm non-threatening manner, he'll take note and be cautious, but chances are you will see him from your stand because he don't know where it is. Although he may back track you to your stand. I've seen proof of this in the snow.

Deer are like people in that they all have different personalities and different tolerances for danger. In most cases, does, fawns and young bucks, 2 1/2 and younger will usually try to verify two of their senses to confirm their suspicion of danger. For bucks 3 1/2 and older they only need one sense to be verified. The older bucks only need a suspicion, no verification. If somethimg doesn't seem right, their out of there no questions asked. I believe that there some bucks that won't come out until after dark and never expose themselves to danger. Their survival is of the uttmost importance, even more than breeding.



GMMAT 08-15-2007 09:53 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 
I didn't say anything about you, Charlie......but so far I'm being ridiculed by people who I have no idea if they know what they're talking about or not. You insult me....but I can't ask whom I'm dealing with?

Bawana's been in the contest since its' inception....and I just thought a man that knew so much about mature buck killin could show me the fruits of his expertise. I didn't ask to see yours.....but here's your time to shine if you so choose. Your call.

bawanajim 08-15-2007 09:56 AM

RE: I always hear this story...
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Bawana's been in the contest since its' inception....and I just thought a man that knew so much about mature buck killin could show me the fruits of his expertise. I didn't ask to see yours.....but here's your time to shine if you so choose. Your call.
Jeff I still drive the truck in those pictures if that counts for anything. ;)


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