RE: I always hear this story...
 

RE: I always hear this story...
 

I'm thinkin radius....dang...what business am "I" in...lol:eek::D

RE: I always hear this story...
 

No generalities? You ask a question and then make up rules that make it impossible to answer?[8D] Unless you catch the deer standing in the scrape or making the rub, like you say, generalities is all you've got to go on with scrapes and rubs!

GENERALLY, as said above, you can get a pretty good idea of the size of the buck by the size of the rub and how bad he trashed the tree and surrounding brush. Little bucks will generally pick on saplings and rub lower down. Bigger bucks will often rub bigger trees, rub higher and do a lot more damage.

Then, with scrapes, the buck that made the scrape is not the only buck that will visit it. A dominant buck will make his own scrape right on top of one made by a lesser buck.

It's not a good idea, IMO, to hunt over scrapes and rubs because you never know when they're going to be visited again. But you do know deer need food and water every day. If you find big rubs, and scrapes that have been getting hit hard and heavy, at least you've got a pretty good idea you've got a bruiser somewhere close by.

After that, it's up to you to figure out where he lives, where he feeds and waters, what his travel patterns are to get to feed and water, and set your stands to take advantage of the prevailing winds in the area... In other words, doing your homework.

Or you just set up anywhere, place absolute faith in your scent reduction products and trust to luck. Of course, if you take that route you might as well just go right on down to the tattoo parlor and have 'em put a big "L" on your forehead. :D

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Diameter is what????????????? "one foot across" I'd love to see your trig skills at work.;)

I truly am sorry about your reading comprehension difficulties , it couldhelp explainyour poor math skillsand your lack of ability to retain facts.

I clearly explained how shed hunting in the spring gives you volumes of imformation on how to pattern a buckthat you can then target in the fall and you retort with fairy tales and what if's.

You have a good one now,

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I love when it gets down to insults....lol.

THE reason I mentioned "generalities" is.....it's a guess unless you see the animal use the scrape or rub. How do I know? One morning, '05 season....I set up 9 yds from an active scrape. 1st buck that worked it was a half-rack spike. Disappointed...I thought at that time he was the only one using it. Next buck to use it was a nice little 6-pointer. NEXT buck to use it.....another 6-pointer. LAST buck to use it, that morning....was a BUTTON BUCK.

Big boy strolls by the field edge at 10:15 that morning and never gives it a look or sniff....though he came within 6 or 7 yds of it.

If a man wasn't sitting in my tree that morning.....what could this scrape tell him?

I can tell ya.....ANY buck will make a scrape on top of another one by what I've seen. I've witnessed multiple bucks on scrapes 3 or 4 times. Never in the presence of the dominant buck......but I've also never seen him work one. I watched him thrash the ever living hell out of a licking branch, once....but never seen HIS scrape.

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And this was meant as a compliment???????

You claim to listen but you seldom hear!

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GMMAT just because a mature deer does not "work" a scrape does no mean he did not check it.

Most of the time IMO mature deer check them from down wind side where they can not be seen. Why I seldom sit "over" a scrape, but in funnel he may use to scent check it from a distance. I will be downind from the scrape, and be setup so the deer is in front of me.

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It was a question. No insult, there.

Some people get mad every time someone comes up with an alternate (though not "new") method of approaching hunting. Usually they cansimply pass offwhat the person's saying to "experience"........"age"......"whatever".

Of course...insults always work, too.

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Germ:

Not the reason I stated he didn't work it.

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Yea but ..but..but if he sees you your screwed anyway. [:o] ;)