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RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
Things that make you go hmmmmm.....
I'm going to investigate that on the QTM site.;) |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
1. More does = More deer = More Bucks This is true but we must be sure not to go over the carrying capacity. Which in several cases some areas could definitely support more deer. I know for a fact that there is just as much food here in Northern MO as there is in Illinois but not near as many deer. But the MO biologists keep emphasizing overpopulation. I think in many cases more does tags mean more money for the state. 2. Bucks will have more does to chase in the fall making them move longer into the season. Quite the contrary bucks will move less because theyll have all the does they need in one location. |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
ORIGINAL: drhntr178 ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: drhntr178 I havent read all the posts but Ill throw in my 2 cents...Why does male only harvest work for turkeys but not for deer? In both species the males fight for dominance and extablish a pecking order. the males also mate with multiple females. Why does it work so well for one species and not the other? (And dont try to throw in the argument about fall turkey season.The few hens harvested then does not even compare to the number of males taken in the spring) |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
Here is the question
How many jakes are being shot? I will ask DNR this week. I am interested to know |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
Wouldnt the bucks be helathier if they had all the does they needed without having to compete with other bucks. Not near the stress from fighting and no running around like crazy during the rut. Just another thought.
Maybe more does=healthier bucks.... any arguments on that one. |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
Stress from breeding is pretty intense too. Imagine you "bred" up to 20 different females repeatedly over a month. First of all, you da man!! Second, you probably wouldn't have enough energy to tie your shoe.
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RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
ORIGINAL: NEW61375 Stress from breeding is pretty intense too. Imagine you "bred" up to 20 different females repeatedly over a month. First of all, you da man!! Second, you probably wouldn't have enough energy to tie your shoe. |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
ORIGINAL: Germ Here is the question How many jakes are being shot? I will ask DNR this week. I am interested to know Adult gobblers- 36587 juveniles gobblers- 11022 hens- 849 Adult gobblers make up over 70% of the harvest. Males equaling over 95% MO has some of the best turkey hunting in the country. Facts like this make me question the whole deer have to be 1:1 or 1:2 to be healthy. |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
ORIGINAL: Germ _dan had made post awhile back about area he hunted that was not hunted by humans. If I recall he said the ratio was like 1:3. maybe he can chime in The area that Germ is refering to is about 50-75 sq miles in size. From what I have seen and what my brothers have told me they have seen I come up with a ratio of 1:1.5, max 1:2. The first time I hunted this area was in 2004 and can gurantee that in the last century there have been MAYBE 6 people in there. This area has lots of wolves, bears and deer. Plus a few moose. So, I would consider this to be as natural of an environment as I have ever seen. Unspoiled and uninterupted. Gotta go install windows on the new cabin.......back in an hour.:) |
RE: Is Harvesting Does Really the Right Thing to do?
Maybe more does=healthier bucks.... any arguments on that one. |
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