Is this how YOU feel about hunting?
08-06-2007 | 08:42 PM
#141
Boone & Crockett
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
I do not think that state mandated A/Rs are right. I'll try my best to fight my fight with the people I hunt with on the places I hunt, but I do not think there should be a law...because ultimately it should be the choice of the individual to hunt the way they want, in this instance.
BUT
States mandate how many does or bucksI can shoot. In some area's does can not be hunted. Mandate fish of certain length. What is the difference? Is it the one more mandateyou do not like?
If you want to know I like OBR, to me it is the fairest method.
NOTE:
In MI our second Tag has an AR of 4 points on a side
08-06-2007 | 09:06 PM
#142
Nontypical Buck
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From: WV
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: Germ
AR are intersting and i enjoy reading test data fromareas we have had in MI. I think they are not need by states DNR, let people make the choice. I am hunting a test AR place in KY 15'' spread restriction. I am curious to what I will see. I have scouted the WMU and it looked pretty good.
BUT
States mandate how many does or bucksI can shoot. In some area's does can not be hunted. Mandate fish of certain length. What is the difference? Is it the one more mandateyou do not like?
If you want to know I like OBR, to me it is the fairest method.
I do not think that state mandated A/Rs are right. I'll try my best to fight my fight with the people I hunt with on the places I hunt, but I do not think there should be a law...because ultimately it should be the choice of the individual to hunt the way they want, in this instance.
BUT
States mandate how many does or bucksI can shoot. In some area's does can not be hunted. Mandate fish of certain length. What is the difference? Is it the one more mandateyou do not like?
If you want to know I like OBR, to me it is the fairest method.
Sorry Germ,
I don't know what "OBR" means
As for the A/R and why I'm opposed to it, several reasons I guess. One is many of these same guys that I complain about are really just good ol "salt of the earth" country boys, who usually have several generations of hunters in one family hunting together. It's tradition for them. And when I run into them with their "truckload" I may shake my head and laugh. They will probably laugh as well. At any rate, even though I may question their thought process on shooting their 37th 4pt, I would never question their character or their general love of the outdoors.
So, even though I will always encourage them to change, I would never want the state to step in to "change their minds for them" If the state needs to make a change then I'd say cut back on the numbers but still, don't restrict the horns.
Another case would be for an adult"newbie" who may be on one of his first hunts. I'd like to see him/her be able to have as large a chance for success as possible.
Now, That being said, I think it would be just fine for the state to implement "trophy areas" on SOME public land, but not all.
08-06-2007 | 09:10 PM
#143
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From: NY
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Atlas I can not tell a cucumber from zucchini
I think they would kick me out.
ORIGINAL: atlasman
I thought we were sharing pics of things we grew and harvested whenever we felt they were big enough.
Same principle.
Wanna join the QGMA???..........for $25 I will put your name in a book
ORIGINAL: Germ
Only Atlas would bring vegetables to an antler fight
Only Atlas would bring vegetables to an antler fight
I thought we were sharing pics of things we grew and harvested whenever we felt they were big enough.
Same principle.
Wanna join the QGMA???..........for $25 I will put your name in a book
I think they would kick me out.
Field judging is important................we'll teach ya
08-06-2007 | 09:11 PM
#144
Boone & Crockett
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
OBR
One Buck Restriction. Ilike it because it does not force a change, but lets the hunter choose if the deer is to his standards.
I like your thoughts HB.
Like I said before I think there is common ground
One Buck Restriction. Ilike it because it does not force a change, but lets the hunter choose if the deer is to his standards.
I like your thoughts HB.
Like I said before I think there is common ground
08-06-2007 | 09:11 PM
#145
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From: NY
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Dude that is TGMA[:'(]
ORIGINAL: atlasman
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
ORIGINAL: Germ
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
08-06-2007 | 09:11 PM
#146
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
I just don't understand how the 17th forkhorn is just as fun as the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd? I know I'm not alone in this thinking
08-06-2007 | 09:11 PM
#147
Nontypical Buck
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From: WV
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
A/R on second tag would be worth considering, imo. Also to limit season bag limits onbucks to ONE (currently 3, I believe in WV, just down recently from like 6 or something(I never cared cause I was never going to shoot as many as the regs allowed anyway))
Maybe One each with bow and gun would be what I persoanlly would like here.
Maybe One each with bow and gun would be what I persoanlly would like here.
08-06-2007 | 09:15 PM
#148
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: atlasman
No way man............think about the cucumber does germ........it's really all about the does.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Dude that is TGMA[:'(]
ORIGINAL: atlasman
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
ORIGINAL: Germ
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
Plus it is not fairchase. They are tied to the ground.
I bet their fenced in also[:-]
08-06-2007 | 09:16 PM
#149
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1
A/R on second tag would be worth considering, imo. Also to limit season bag limits onbucks to ONE (currently 3, I believe in WV, just down recently from like 6 or something(I never cared cause I was never going to shoot as many as the regs allowed anyway))
Maybe One each with bow and gun would be what I persoanlly would like here.
A/R on second tag would be worth considering, imo. Also to limit season bag limits onbucks to ONE (currently 3, I believe in WV, just down recently from like 6 or something(I never cared cause I was never going to shoot as many as the regs allowed anyway))
Maybe One each with bow and gun would be what I persoanlly would like here.
08-06-2007 | 09:17 PM
#150
Nontypical Buck
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From: WV
RE: Is this how you feel about hunting?
ORIGINAL: Germ
It's all a charade Plus it is not fairchase. They are tied to the ground.
I bet their fenced in also[:-]
ORIGINAL: atlasman
No way man............think about the cucumber does germ........it's really all about the does.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Dude that is TGMA[:'(]
ORIGINAL: atlasman
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
ORIGINAL: Germ
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
I have never seen such fat cucumber.
We have good genetics around here..........gotta keep the cull cucs out of the mix though. Once I see that a cuc is all it's ever gonna be it needs to be removed. There is some interesting research out there though saying that even tiny thin cucs can grow to be massive. The debate whether or not to harvest spike cucs rages on.
Plus it is not fairchase. They are tied to the ground.I bet their fenced in also[:-]