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RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: Charlie P So you guy can see not everyone thinks the same in NY I've hunted this state for 30 years seen it go from 5 guys on a "party permit" (doe permit) to being able to take up to what is it now 7 deer? Plenty of really nice bucks get killed around here every year. Don't see a need to mandate AR's. The old days of arm bands and party permits..............couldn't even shoot a doe and saw plenty of them.........now I have enough tags to make a book and don't see half as many deer. Yup............those biologists sure know what they are doin' ;) |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: Germ I see and shoot plenty of them;) So I do not get your point, matter of fact your odds in NY are better than mine in MI;) So is it possible that there already are plenty of big mature bucks out there and the herd is way healthier then we know...............because we just don't see them remember?? Well you don't in the QDM zones:D I see them all the time, just wish they were closer;) |
RE: Healthy herd myth
Yea then we can have the problems they do in many of the big buck states, outfitters buying up land and making it hard for an average guy to finda spot to hunt. We need hunting to become the sport ot the rich right? I would ask hunters in these areas their thoughts on hunting access in these areas - common answer was "hard and getting harder every year". I then asked them what they thoughtaccess would be like if the proposal went through, actually worked, and resulted in a rep like Pike Cty. Not a hard question to answer - local hunters would lose most if not all access and the state land would be over run. Steve |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Germ That is great Atlas, I really like there system. It allows guys to shoot what they want. I can tell you when you take that second tag out of some hunters hands their standards change on what is a good buck. |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Charlie P You know I just don't want the goverment mandating more of my life. I'm happy doing what I'm doing. If I decide I want to stalk up on a small buck and shoot him off the ground well that's what I enjoy. You want to shoot a large racked deer walking under your tree stand fine. Just don't mandate how I'm supposed to hunt anymore then it already is. Steve, great point. That's why I continuously raise the bar for myself. |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: HuntingBry No less of a challenge, just more opportunity to meet that challenge.;)  |
RE: Healthy herd myth
Can't keep up - going to bed.:D
Steve |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy Yea then we can have the problems they do in many of the big buck states, outfitters buying up land and making it hard for an average guy to finda spot to hunt. We need hunting to become the sport ot the rich right? I would ask hunters in these areas their thoughts on hunting access in these areas - common answer was "hard and getting harder every year". I then asked them what they thoughtaccess would be like if the proposal went through, actually worked, and resulted in a rep like Pike Cty. Not a hard question to answer - local hunters would lose most if not all access and the state land would be over run. Steve Issues are only going to get worst, either way. Why I say get involed and help out. Start a group called HFRDM Hunters for reasonble deer management |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: Germ That is great Atlas, I really like there system. It allows guys to shoot what they want. I can tell you when you take that second tag out of some hunters hands their standards change on what is a good buck. BTW in MI the deer would be shot and tagged by his wife. But that is for another thread;) |
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Germ True statement, so it is ok if I shoot him at his peak. He has been breeding for at least 2.5 years than most deer:D Talk about your contridictions[&:] People who own and breed thoroughbred horses would tend to disagree ;) |
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