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quiksilver 07-09-2007 10:52 AM

Help me pick a broadhead
 
Okay, I've been using muzzy 100's for ages now, and since I'm going with a new bow, new arrows, new everything - I might as well experiment with a new head as well.

Here's the dish. I got my paws on an HCA iron mace and their 5.5 gpi Speed Pro arrows, and I'm gonna be putting the heads on an arrow that will weigh in the ballpark of 200 grains with just feathers, nock and insert.

Just so we know what we're working with here, it's a 70#, 29" draw bow. Here are some actual chrono numbers from my bow.

A 255 grain arrow shoots between 360 and 370 fps. (55 grain head, 75# KE)
A 300 grain arrow shoots around 340 (100 grain head, 77# KE).
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Choices:

If I'm staying at 100 grains, I want a massive cutting diameter, and want to try a mechanical head, so the 2 blade Rages look pretty nice. I have about 3 dozen Muzzy's stowed away as a fallback plan. That said, I'm still leaning toward going lighter.


The muzzy 75 grain model looks pretty foolproof, but I fear problems getting it to fly right. I have no helical - 4" straight feathers. I'd guess that a 75 grain head shouldput me around 350-355 fps.


Wasp Jak Hammer 75 looks pretty nice. Mega-thick blades on this guy (.036)


Rocket Wolverine 57 grains! - 1 1/4" cut - .027" thick blades.


Rocket Ultimate Steel 75 (.036" blades) - supposedly flies nice - pathfinder chisel tip


High Country sells a pretty mean looking 55 grain head that is worthy of looking at





Now, I know you guys will probably think I'm nuts - going so light, but if you'd see my yardage markings out to 60 yards with the 250 grain arrow, it's absolutely sick. It really is one pin to 30, just a nudge to 40, and again at 50, 60. The bow is forgiving and holds light enough that I can make a good shot with confidence and no fear ofpushing my effective range outward.

The only thing holding me back before was my inability to judge yardage to +/- 5 yds past 30-35, but the flatter trajectory (and good FOC) is giving me a little more wiggle room to mis-judge a long range shot and still be in the vitals. That's why we're looking at such light heads.

I know this might be a dumb question, but do you guys think I'll have any problems with mechanicals at these speeds? I'm specifically worried about the blades coming open on the snap from 0 - 360when I touch the trigger.

Greg / MO 07-09-2007 10:57 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
Don't know how many people can honestly answer your last question about their arrow going from 0-360 from personal experience... [8D]

I'd take a hard look at the new Muzzy MX-3's. with the shorty profile..

Germ 07-09-2007 11:08 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Don't know how many people can honestly answer your last question about their arrow going from 0-360 from personal experience... [8D]

I'd take a hard look at the new Muzzy MX-3's. with the shorty profile..
I can:D

The air drag at 360 FPS is way more than my 240 FPS[:-]

Is your total arrow weight 250 grain with broadhead or without?

quiksilver 07-09-2007 11:12 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
My total arrow weight (Bare, with just 3 feathers, painted-on cresting, insert and nock) - is right around 200 grains.

The 255 number was the 200 grain arrow with a 55 grain head. 3.64 grains per pound.

So Gary -what's your honest opinion about how that 57 grain Rocket would perform out of that setup. That would be a 257 grain arrow, probably in the 360-370 range. Would I be okay if I just added maybe a second rubber band?

That was the game we used to play with those Punchcutters back in the day. It seemed like the faster bows were pushing them open, so we'd just add a second rubber band.

Greg - I like the MX3, but I've already got a zillion 3-blade Muzzy 100's at home. It would be nice to make the upgrade, but not worth scrapping the ones I already have. If I stay with a 100 grain fixed blade, I'll probably just use the ones I've already got stowed away.

gutshot 07-09-2007 11:16 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
I can't tell you which one to pick but I will tell you that I had bad expierences with the Wasps.

Germ 07-09-2007 11:24 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
If it were me I would shoot the rage. I thinkwith the way the head is design to open it will not be an issue. I saw a hole the rage put in a deer on Sunday hunting show. It was biggest entry hole I have ever seen. I could have stuck Hunsuckers guns in there;)

I am really close to breaking a Germ rule and going with the rage myself.

Arthur P 07-09-2007 11:34 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 

Now, I know you guys will probably think I'm nuts - going so light, but...
Yep. You're right. Good luck.

Germ 07-09-2007 11:53 AM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
I think your nuts also:D

I may be getting one of those bows, I plan on putting a 600+ grain arrow on her and whack those deer;) I am really wondering how a fixed will fly at 360 fps?

Arthur P 07-09-2007 12:07 PM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 

I am really wondering how a fixed will fly at 360 fps?
You speak for me also... Since penetration is compromised by ultra light weight anyway, we've got to be spot on with shot placement. I'd be more inclined to go with a mechanical, probably the Wolverines (assuming they penetrate as well as Steelheads do), just to make sure I've done everything I can to help the arrows go where I aim them.

Cougar Mag 07-09-2007 12:11 PM

RE: Help me pick a broadhead
 
Yeah, you are nuts;). Quik, I'll make you an offer.....how bout I send you a Rocky Mtn. Turbo to try? 100 grains, 1 1/8" cutting diameter, all stainless steel, .30 thick blades. I've got 15 of em and I can spare one just to show you that they will fly absolutely perfect and hit hard.


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