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quiksilver 06-19-2007 01:58 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

Quicksilver knowing how to use google image is like giving a monkey an Uzi;)


PreacherTony 06-19-2007 01:58 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: W.T.F.


ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

I don't know that I have ever laughedv so hard ...... can't catch my breath!!!


Fran and Gary, you guys really need to get on that reality show about being a comedian .........
Tony, I totally agree the last bowhunter standing. this has been my goto thread the last couple of days, and everytime I read something new I laugh harder. My employees all think I am retarded just sitting here laughing at my computer screen
WTF..... You aint kidding! I am fully expecting to be invited over someones house for dinner, and when I get there, there will be all my family and friends waiting to talk to me about how concerned they are that I lost it! [8D]

Germ 06-19-2007 02:10 PM

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;)


TFOX 06-19-2007 03:49 PM

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Germ,you are killing me.That is the funniest video I think I have ever seen.:D

Big Duane 06-19-2007 05:23 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
American Indians took everything on this continent with primitive arrows shot from self bows



davepjr71 06-19-2007 07:30 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
If they had access to 70# compounds they'd use those over s bow made from a stick and some sinew.

bigcountry 06-19-2007 07:43 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: davepjr71

If they had access to 70# compounds they'd use those over s bow made from a stick and some sinew.
I have access to 70# compound and now prefer stick and well (dacron), but plan on saving my backstrap sinew this year, and seeing what kinda string can be made from it.

davepjr71 06-19-2007 07:48 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
That's your choice to use a traditional bow. I'm simply stating that they would have used the most modern technology. If you don't believe that then they'd still be flinging rocks and sticks at animals.

Everyone keeps saying it's macho to use a 70# compound bow. Wouldn't it be more macho to use a traditional bow at 55#'s when you have access to equipment that is more lethal?;)

bigcountry 06-19-2007 09:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: davepjr71

Everyone keeps saying it's macho to use a 70# compound bow. Wouldn't it be more macho to use a traditional bow at 55#'s when you have access to equipment that is more lethal?;)
No man, thats total BS. Look all around you with the kids these days. Everythings bigger and better, and you got to have it. From cars, motorcycles to bows, to guns. I even saw some 18 year old using a 300RUM for deer in MD. I mean come on. Its getting totally rediculus. This freakin thread is rediculus and pretty well shows the state of hunting today.

Equipment that was adequate years ago, now, won't penetrate an animal according to some. People have lost the real meaning of hunting in my opinion.

davepjr71 06-20-2007 04:51 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
I'm pretty sure most guys used to use 70# and up longbows for hunting. And I really believe that target shooting has created this mind set that 55# is great for everything.

Haven'tthe maxweightscome down on compounds? There used to be a bunch of companies making bows over 80#'s and now only a few do. So, I'm not sure where you are coming from with everybody wants bigger complex.

So, you are only a real hunter if you use a longbow? Now that's BS. And again seems to show the superiority complex that some guys have. A guy starts shooting traditionaland then automatically he's doing the only real hunting. Cracks me up every time.


bigcountry 06-20-2007 05:12 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: davepjr71

So, you are only a real hunter if you use a longbow? Now that's BS. And again seems to show the superiority complex that some guys have. A guy starts shooting traditionaland then automatically he's doing the only real hunting. Cracks me up every time.

I never said that. I still use a compound sometimes. I am sorry, you can't grasp the concept of this whole thread. But what does one on here expect?

davepjr71 06-20-2007 05:31 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
Me too stupud for all of you guyz on hear.

You said people have lost the real meaning of hunting. What exactly do you mean by that? To me it reads that if you use a high poundage bow you've lost the meaning of hunting. that has nothing to do with the meaning of hunting. it's a person's preferences in weapons.

And comparing a high poundage bow to 300 mag is rediculous. The bows are lower poundage than they used to be. I could see making a comment if everyone were using 120# compounds. You guys rip on quick for making that comparison and yet use it yourself for your own means.

bigcountry 06-20-2007 05:41 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: davepjr71

Me too stupud for all of you guyz on hear.
I don't know. You think so?


You said people have lost the real meaning of hunting. What exactly do you mean by that?
Meaning, its not all about getting the best advantage possible to use the most destructive weapon available so you can tell everyone you got a deer.This is definatley aimed to a few on here claiming no way 55# equipment can get the job done. These folks are puppets of advertisers. They get wowed by the numbers, and believe most what they are told.


To me it reads that if you use a high poundage bow you've lost the meaning of hunting.
Go back thru and read all posts from the beginning. Read man, read.


And comparing a high poundage bow to 300 mag is rediculous.
Nobody did that. Strickly showing the mindset of youth today. Read man, read.

davepjr71 06-20-2007 06:06 AM

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You're only a year older than me grandpa!!!!

I've read every post. What i see makes me laugh. it's everyone's choice what they use. And, if you haven't figured out that Fran is busting your chops you need to relax and chill out a little.[8D]

When I started shooting in the late 70's pretty much every longbow shooterI knew had a bow higher tha 60#'s. They realized even what the Native Americans realized that the more effective the equipment the better off you are.

However, it seems today we have a reverse macho attitude that saysI can kill with a light weapon so thereforeI am superior to you andI know better.

I know that you can kill something with a tree branch with a string tied to it rated at 25 lbs if you wanted to.


PreacherTony 06-20-2007 06:17 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: davepjr71

You're only a year older than me grandpa!!!!

I've read every post. What i see makes me laugh. it's everyone's choice what they use. And, if you haven't figured out that Fran is busting your chops you need to relax and chill out a little.[8D]
yep


When I started shooting in the late 70's pretty much every longbow shooterI knew had a bow higher tha 60#'s. They realized even what the Native Americans realized that the more effective the equipment the better off you are.
yep


However, it seems today we have a reverse macho attitude that saysI can kill with a light weapon so thereforeI am superior to you andI know better.
yep



HuntingBry 06-20-2007 06:57 AM

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No offense to anyone here, but saying that the Native Americans used their primitive weapons to take all the game in North America in defense of using a lighter poundage is just dumb.

It also took them a hunting party and about 30 of those pointy sticks with stones on the end to kill their prey. There was a video posteda while back of African tribes flinging spears into elephants as their means of hunting.

Just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.

PreacherTony 06-20-2007 06:58 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

No offense to anyone here, but saying that the Native Americans used their primitive weapons to take all the game in North America in defense of using a lighter poundage is just dumb.

It also took them a hunting party and about 30 of those pointy sticks with stones on the end to kill their prey. There was a video posteda while back of African tribes flinging spears into elephants as their means of hunting.

Just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.
yep

davepjr71 06-20-2007 07:05 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

No offense to anyone here, but saying that the Native Americans used their primitive weapons to take all the game in North America in defense of using a lighter poundage is just dumb.

It also took them a hunting party and about 30 of those pointy sticks with stones on the end to kill their prey. There was a video posteda while back of African tribes flinging spears into elephants as their means of hunting.

Just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.
Thank you and exactly my point.

W.T.F. 06-20-2007 07:17 AM

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we need quick and germ back on here to lighten this thread back up again, I was all excited to read this thread this morning expecting a good laugh and I read all this arguing, man what a let down

Germ 06-20-2007 07:21 AM

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Alright here is the last word:)

Having a limit on KE is the way to go, example

Guy shooting a 50# Bowtech Guardian with a heavy arrow is going to have more KE than a guy shooting a PSE Nova with soft round wheels at 60# pounds with a lighter arrow.

Using WonderBoy(Quick) logic he would take the 60# bow because it is more manly[:'(]

I will use smart man logic(Huntinson) and shoot the bowtech, it is just that simple:D

As Motown would say Gospel

davepjr71 06-20-2007 07:35 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
Wow, amazing how easy it is for people to skew a thoery to make what they say sound good

The higher poundage bow can shoot the same arrow with more KE.

Everyone automatically keeps saying that the guy with the heavier DW shoots lighter arrows when at the range I see way more guys shooting 350 gr arrows at 55 and i'm using 420 gr at 72# at 292 fps.

The problem being that many of the people that shoot lighter weight automatically go to lighter arrows to increase speed even though they claim that speed is not their goal.

A lot of guys with higher draw weights shoot the heavier arrows even faster than the light DW arrow guys. Which would you choose?

Me, i'll take the 72# Allegiance with a 420 gr arrow over the 55# bow with the 350 gr arrow. Thank you very much.

as the boys in the hood say
RECOGNIZE!!!

Germ 06-20-2007 07:39 AM

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The higher poundage bow can shoot the same arrow with more KE.
Not a PSE Nova with soft cams, LOL Which is my example;)

The point is not just about draw weight! There is alsocams type, Arrows weightand broadhead sharpness.

Shooting a 60 softcam round wheel bow compared to a 50# hardcam is not that different. You guys are stuck on the weight and not taking the Bow design in to the equation;)

quiksilver 06-20-2007 07:42 AM

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Put the crackpipe down Germ. A 50# Slowtech Retardianlobs arrows around 10 fps. I guess that's enough KE, maybe if you're hunting field mice or gerbils. For deer, you'd be better off with no bow at all, just trying to pounce onto the deer's back andchoke it to death.



Bigcountry - sounds like you need to hit the weights. If that doesn't work out - I figure with all the hot air you've got, you might wanna check out one of these. You could probably launch that puppy through a concrete wall.


For the record, I didn't say that the high poundage bows are more manly. It's just the users that are macho.

Germ 06-20-2007 07:46 AM

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Well some of us have big enough arms to pounce on one and choke it to death. Your .17 calibar guns would crack like Paris Hilton in Jail:D

What are those pythons(gardner snakes) 8-9 inches in Circumference;)

quiksilver 06-20-2007 07:51 AM

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I've got 6" on each of these pythons. You combine them, and that's 12" of pure steer wrestling power. If I do 2-3 pushups, right before I burn out - the pipes swell up to 7" each with a good "pump." That's 14" total. Pretty massive.

I won the "Over the Top" world armwrestling title for my weight class (I was uncontested). You're dealing with a world champion here, Germ. I'm no fly-by-night, and I've got the medals to prove it.

Germ 06-20-2007 07:54 AM

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Next time enter the10-15age divison. The 1-9 I think you have mastered;)

kdsberman 06-20-2007 08:12 AM

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hahaha.

James_2k 06-20-2007 08:32 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Put the crackpipe down Germ. A 50# Slowtech Retardianlobs arrows around 10 fps. I guess that's enough KE, maybe if you're hunting field mice or gerbils. For deer, you'd be better off with no bow at all, just trying to pounce onto the deer's back andchoke it to death.
lol, laughed so much at that :)

davepjr71 06-20-2007 08:38 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
Pictures and looks mean nothing when it comes to strength. Perception is a funny thing.

I've been in the gym with guys a lot bigger than me that are pansies on the weights. They throw them all over the place and make all sorts of grunting noises to sound big and bad trying to impress.

It's funny watching a 260 lb guy humiliated when you use the same weight they do and they have 80 or 90 lbs on you.:D

Germ 06-20-2007 08:46 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: davepjr71

Pictures and looks mean nothing when it comes to strength. Perception is a funny thing.

I've been in the gym with guys a lot bigger than me that are pansies on the weights. They throw them all over the place and make all sorts of grunting noises to sound big and bad trying to impress.

It's funny watching a 260 lb guy humiliated when you use the same weight they do and they have 80 or 90 lbs on you.:D
You do realize quick and I are joking;) My other job I am a personel trainer so I know exactly what you are saying;)

So you never answered my question

Would you take a 60# PSE Nova with soft round wheels or a 50# Bowtech Guardian shooting the same arrrow?



davepjr71 06-20-2007 08:54 AM

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I knew you were. i just like needling people and just wanted to add to the conversation for the guys that think size matters.:D

I personally wouldn't take either.

However, you are asking this from a technical stand point so I'll indulge. The 50# guardian will probably out perform the 60# PSE. I think it will but I'm saying probably becauseI do not have both bows to conduct testing to prove.

In another thread people were recommending the round wheel soft cam PSE to a new shooter andI recommended he get something more modern that has better performance.I got chewed out by the PSE fans for saying so.

quiksilver 06-20-2007 08:58 AM

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Germ at his day job.

"You think anyone wants to take a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys?"

To answer your question, Germ - I wouldn't shoot either one of those girly bows.

Germ 06-20-2007 09:07 AM

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While I agree with you about the round wheels, my point is not just to look at the # of the bow. We have to look at the whole package.

As for you quick I would have a wife beater or be shirtless is those pants:D

Here is picture represents Quicks thinking on bow weight. That's right Quick get out of the stone age and buy a modern bow. If you want we can have a fund raiser for you. I hear you want a giant rainbow for the symbol, so all your "friends" come;)




PreacherTony 06-20-2007 09:09 AM

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I just urinated myself ...

davepjr71 06-20-2007 09:32 AM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 
This kid could pull back a 70# bow.




Germ 06-20-2007 09:42 AM

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His name is Richard Sandrak or AKA "little hercules"

He was big in the fitness seen a few years back. Kid is a powerhouse and has a workout that is intense.

davepjr71 06-20-2007 09:56 AM

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Evidently, his father quit working with him due to what was happening to the kid.I think he stopped growing vertically due to the heavy lifting.Many accuse the parents of child abuse.

ArrowMike 06-20-2007 04:38 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: quiksilver





There are more that I don't have pictures of, but they're not much to look at anyway.

The spike above was my first buck. All deer above were killed with 60# or more.
What happened to this ones neck?

hardcorehunter 06-20-2007 05:05 PM

RE: 55# Takes Yukon Moose!!!
 

ORIGINAL: ArrowMike


ORIGINAL: quiksilver





There are more that I don't have pictures of, but they're not much to look at anyway.

The spike above was my first buck. All deer above were killed with 60# or more.
What happened to this ones neck?
LMAO!! Looks like an inexperienced nimrod either shot it in the neck or took a knife and whittled on it. Hey quick, the guts are at the opposite end, that is where the cut is made. What are those little brown things sticking out of its' head? Ticks??????

GMMAT 06-20-2007 05:16 PM

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I sorta witnessed the same reverse phenomenon when I was fly fishing.




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