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Well, everybody goes thru it. Its just a stage in bowhunting. Everybody goes thru the stage of being speed fanatics, I did for years. Then you kinda smarten up or mature. Just a natural progression. I have 2 compounds, and I setup both for the most forgiving setup, which is not max wieght. I use the poundage to tune. Back when everyone shot XX75's sure you could always find the most dynamic spine for max wieght of a bow. But with carbons, its not that cut and dry. You have to take off inches, and most are not willing to do that. And most definatley won't buy a new set of arrows. Both my compounds are about 64 to 67lbs. With todays bows, sure anyone can pull back 70lbs. But I see people overbowed more often than not. Its something people sure don't like to admit, and not too many on here will either. In fact, I ahve witnessed a few shooters on here that are overbowed.

I shoot three traditional bows, and they vary from 40lb to 53#. I shoot 600gr arrows thru them, and the 50# recurve penetrates straight thru. When I saw this, I saw the light.

My hunting buddy I work with shoots 56#, and I see him penetrate straight thru several animals.

Even among the traditional crowd, being overbowed has became a common thing. My old father in law, saw me shoot and was shocked I was shooting 53#. I always thought I was conservative. He and other claim, back in teh early 70's it was a rarity to see shooters shooting over 45#. I told him alot of my friends shoot 55-60#, and he couldn't believe it. He killed probably 100 deer or more with a 45# grizzly.

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Nice blood in the pic Germ; looks like you KILLED that deer.[8D]
Bullets and bullet caliber have no correlation to bow poundage. Bullets kill by shock, bullet weight, and speed of bulletdeterminesthe shock and size of the hole in the animal. To compare a .22 rifle to a lighter pound bow has no correlation what so ever. A hole shot through an animal with an arrow with a said broadhead on it is the same no matter what bow poundage fired it. The broadhead kills with hemorraging, not shock. A .22 rifle does not have the mass or knockdown of a .300 win mag. Hense, a .22 is meant for small game and not big game. An arrow is an arrow is an arrow. Same size hole in the animal, same EXACT hemmoraging. The only difference with a 40, 50, 60, or 70# bow is how far the arrow sticks in the dirt after it easily blows through a thin skinned fragile animal like a deer. Deer are fragile and a sharp broadhead EASILY blows through one as long as you can shoot accurately. If you can't hit a baseball at the average 15 yd or less whitetail shot, than you need to quit bowhunting until you can shoot your bow accurately.

If we were shooting big hunks of leadmounted on our arrows and were trying to knock a deer down with the impact, then a heavier pound bow would be a neccessity.

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Working out releaves stress. The body releases endorphines that make you feel good.:D

As for time consuming. I always hear that excuse and usually it's from people that sit and watch TV for 4 hours a night.Or spend hours on a PC or game system. I've been guilty of this myself and am not perfect. However, if a person wants they can fit a workout into 15 minutes and they'll feel better afterwards. Stop shooting 15 minutes early and do a small workout. There is always some time if people think about it.

Here's somethingI doubt most people think about before shooting. Why not stretch to loosen up the muscles? Even if you do not want to wokr out if you stretch you can prevent injuries due to tight muscles.

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Seriously, I can't figure out what has all you nancies so chapped about what I'm telling you here.

This argument started b/c I said that nobody should be hunting with bows under 55#. Well, we had a poll, and the poll results indicated that ***Surprise!*** Hardly anyone hunts withs bow under 55#.

Why? People like to have some arrow speed and a little bit of extra (albeit sometimes unnecesssary) penetrating power.

We also concluded that the guys who are on the lower end of the curve (55-60#) are perceptive enough to know that they should be aware of their arrow flight, keep sharp heads, etc... Again, no surprise here.

So what are you guys mad about again? Oh, yeah, mad b/c I said you shouldn't hunt with a sub-55# bow, but nobody actually hunts with such a bow. Proof is in the pudding folks.
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I'll be the first to say that there's a little bit of "draw envy" going on here. Everybody wants togenerate bone-crushing kinetic energy like me, but hey, sometimes you've just gotta know when to stay on the porch and stick with a bow that you can handle.

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"Draw Envy"...LOL.

I don't care who ya are.....that there's funnY!

:D

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That is not what he was saying Preach. He was saying that if you cannot draw over 55# then you should not be allowed to bowhunt because your bow will not be able to get enough penetration. That is completely incorrect.

I can and have had my bow at 72#, but I now shoot it at 64#. Why? Because at 64# it blows through elk at 40 yards. Heck, it shot my arrow through a quartering away bull caribou and went through over 18" of fleshat 35 yards and stuck in the pine tree behind him so deeply that I had to cut it out of the tree. There is simply no need for any more penetration than that.

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Wouldn't the same apply to any big game setup?Whyare the "lower end" singled out for the attributes mentioned?

Also, I don't believe that "we" have concluded, but maybe you have.

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You know quick if you shot better you would not hit bone;)

I have a friend who shoots 50# mathews and kills more deer than you and I combined;)and not those little guys either.
I am not trying to crush bone, I am tryig to kill a deer, LOL

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Just because a poll shows more people shoot higher poundage, doesnt mean lower poundage is bad. I dont care how many pictures of toys you post, you still arent convincing me or anyone else that you are more of a hunter because you shoot higher poundage. Posting pictures of toys resembling 40-55# bows is nothing but immature and disrespectful to a lot of hunters. Glad to have someone like you representing us.

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Because, all of us big dogs shooting 70+# don't need perfect arrow flight. Our arrows are flying with such speed andkilling powerthat the deer practically blow apart on impact.80# of KE doesn't need a bullet-straight flight to git-r-dun.

John Rambo shoots 90#, and the deer die before he even lets go of the arrow. Fear.


The moral of the story here is Draw Envy.

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wow

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I don't think this is what he's trying to convey.....but it SURE gets taken in this context, every time.

It's like....."How high do you hunt"?

"How fast is your bow"?

People ARE going to be defensive. Period. Human nature. We all know it happens.

There IS a point at which, I think everyone would agree, it IS unethical to pursue big game (with a bow set at ___#'s). We just disagree at what that number is.....the closer it gets to what we're shooting.

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Doesn't good arrow flight have any correlation to accuracy? I believe you would still want to hit the target correct?

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Apparently not, with his high poundage it dies before it hits the target.

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It'sAS absurd to think you're never going to have an errant shot as it is to think that utilizing a higher draw #-age will overcome said, every time.

It works both ways, guys....

I'm making a wild guess, here.....but I'm betting the chances of an errant shot being taken on abig game animal goes up (GREATLY) with the people shooting the extreme low end of the poundagesbeing discussed......and they're the ones that would MOST benefit by shooting a higher poundage bow.

You guys shooting45-60 that put in your time and practice....and are proficient...aren't even being discussed (from what I can read).

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Serious question here guys - purely hypothetical.

If Richard Simmonsbroke out the camoleotard and took up archery tomorrow, what draw weight do you think he would shoot?

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Let's see.... what draw weight are you pulling Quick?:D

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I am starting to wonder why you have so many pictures of Mr. Simmons.

But being his arms are bigger than yours I would say 78 lbs[:-]

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LMAO!!!!!!!!

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I got this picture back in '99 at a Richard Simmons inspirational camp for retired porn stars. He signed it "Never stop dreaming." It has more stuff written on the back, but I'm not sure that this is the proper forum for that.

I'd say Richard, with his stocky, muscularbuild, could pull at least 75#. That's way more than a lot of you nancies, but not as much as Rambo.

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LMAO!

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Wow Fran, you are killing here. You're going to reach your limit soon because you've got these guys hook, line, and sinker.

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But for what reason, a lot of time on hands....Why troll here?

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if i was to look at simmons in real life without knowing him, id say 50. But since i know he works out, id say 75 at MOST.

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Here you go killer

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LMAO - Awesome. Richard was my inspiration - I've never stopped dreaming.

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Where on God's earth could you show your face......if you were making fun of Richard Simmons.....and he bitch-slapped you into next week?

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This is one of the funniest things I have watch. I almost cried

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NRq11EDAQ

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oh my god germ that was one of the funniest things I ever saw, for that matter this is one of the funniest threads I have ever read.

Quick, you are killing me with the picturesbut I do have a little concern with the Richard Simmons picture though.

I hope this thread can last a couple of more days because this is pure entertainment

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That Simmons dude has always creeped me out.[:'(]

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You know there's such a thing as gay porn stars.

Tom

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Are you trying to flirt with me, maybe dropping some hints that you might be "interested," Stat?

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I don't know that I have ever laughedv so hard ...... can't catch my breath!!!


Fran and Gary, you guys really need to get on that reality show about being a comedian .........

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Because the fishing is good.;)

I'm just having a good time reading all this, so keep it up.

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Tony, I totally agree the last bowhunter standing. this has been my goto thread the last couple of days, and everytime I read something new I laugh harder. My employees all think I am retarded just sitting here laughing at my computer screen

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It's a shame these threads have gotten so out of control. [&o]

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Feeling left out? Here ya go, Bob.





They say that just feeling the affection, even if it's just from a doll, will enhance a guy's mojo and help him really build those upper back muscles for drawing high poundagebows. (Men's bows)

After one week with me in my program, you'll be prepared to bowhunt with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

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Quicksilver knowing how to use google image is like giving a monkey an Uzi;)

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i think you should shoot as much poundage as you can acuratly. never no when you might hit a rib