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GMMAT 05-31-2007 04:29 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

It's a little different when you don't know how far the target is and only have a few seconds to get a shot off. [8D]
Damned right it is......but it's funny to listen to those who would have us think a 2" group @ 60yds is quite believeable. I don't see it (and neither do you). The guys I'm talking about are shooting hunting rigs, too (as was the original poster). That stuff ya'll do with the stabilizer resting on the target (OK...a stretch....but you get my drift:D)....doesn't enter into this....OTHER than to show how far-fetched the 2"/60yd thing really is when it comes to hunting archery tackle.

Hey RJ.....thanks for your input. ALWAYS appreciated.

Paul L Mohr 06-01-2007 10:06 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 
Rick has it right, pressure makes a big difference. When I shoot it is in my back yard or at a local range. I don't compete, I just don't like it. I'm not a competitive person. Brings out the A hole in people for the most part. I shoot 3-D for fun every now and then, and I did vegas type spots a few times at a local club during the winter. Just isn't something I am interested in. I shoot because I enjoy it, I don't feel the need to prove I am better and I don't really care when someone else is better than me. I have enough stress in my life without turning something I enjoy into something I need to worry about:D. I don't even keep score when I shoot or play golf. I just do it because I enjoy it.

I thought shooting spots would make me a better archer, nope, gave me target panic is what it did[:@]. And shooting a timed event at an unknown distance would probably give me an anxiety attack.

And like I said, I am talking shooting at known distances with no pressure, no time limit and a bow set up for that kind of a shot (not a target bow, just set up for that distance).

Also like Rick said, define consistantly? Could I shoot 2 inch groups at 60 yards all day? Hell no! I would say between 2 and 4 inches was an average, and every now and then I would flinch or something and miss way off. 60 yards is not very forgiving of mistakes on the release. However I shot well enough to say 2 inch groups at that distance are very possible, ruined enough arrows I know that.

Could I do it now, no way. I don't shoot enough anymore. At the time I was shooting at least 3 or 4 hours a day every day at that distance or longer.

And this wasn't with a fancy tricked out $1,000 dollar target bow either. It was with a $350 darton Yukon, a slide type sight with a pin, a 12 inch stabilizer and a trigger release, off the string no less (no loop). The same set up I hunted with. You don't need a target bow to shoot well. They look pretty and might help a little, but you don't NEED one. a camo paint job doesn't make you shoot any worse.

Doesnt really matter to me if you believe it or not, but I can assure you hitting a six inch target at 60 yards is very possible for many archers.

I for the life of me can't understand why you would care if someone you have never met and probably never will can do it or not? If you and your buddies can't, oh well then. Whether this guy can or can't doesn't really matter since you have never met him and most likely never will.

Then again, why do I care that you care;) I guess men are just like that.

What I do know is I personally have no reason to lie about it since I don't compete or care what someone on the internet thinks about me. For all you know I don't even own a bow[:o].

Paul

GMMAT 06-01-2007 10:35 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 
Oh I can hit a 6" target at 60 yds, too, Paul.....just not every time.

And I don't really "care". It's just always annoyed me to hear guysgive the "I could have gotten signed to play pro ball if I hadn't blown my knee out" speech.........only to find out they got cut off their HS team.

Character flaw, for me, I guess.

Paul L Mohr 06-01-2007 11:06 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

And I don't really "care". It's just always annoyed me to hear guysgive the "I could have gotten signed to play pro ball if I hadn't blown my knee out" speech.........only to find out they got cut off their HS team.

Character flaw, for me, I guess.
I'm with ya on that one I guess. I just wondered if you knew how futile it was to argue it over the internet.

As if I never argue on the internet;):D[:o].

But there really are those that if they missed a 6 inch target at that distance (known distance) would be highly upset with themselves. And I am one of them because I know I can shoot better than that. To be honest though I have pulled the shot a few times and completely missed my target at that distance. It happens, but its not the norm.

Paul

GMMAT 06-01-2007 11:13 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

To be honest though I have pulled the shot a few times and completely missed my target at that distance. It happens, but its not the norm.
Common ground....and the reason I dont shoot at anything with a heartbeat from that range.

And I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way. Wasn't intended to be confrontational, at all.

Have a great weekend, Paul.

markj 06-01-2007 12:46 PM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

ORIGINAL: PaBowhunter29

i heard a guy say its harder to shoot a fast bow. i think it would shoot better group, becaus eyour arrow will get to the target faster then less time for your arrow to move around.
thanks
For all practical purposes the answer is YES. It is harder to shoot a bow made to be fast. All the above answers I agree. Look at some of the competiton target bows. Long and slow. But stable and forgiving.

But I suck at all of them so it makes no difference for me.

markj 06-02-2007 07:46 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

ORIGINAL: jsasker

Anyone shooting 2" groups at 60 yards should turn pro immediately!
You are correct, andthey are the best in the world. I have always had a problem with the more radical bows.

GregH 06-02-2007 09:19 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 
The answer is yes, it is harder to a fast bow. I used to be a competitive archer and have shot indoor, nfaa outdoor and 3-d. While 3-d was the most fun, indoor is where you get all your form and solid shooting skills from. With a bowhunter freestyle (BHFS) set up, short stabilizer and sight pins, I averaged 57x 300s. My best ever with a 3-d bow shooting @320 fps, my best score was a 51x 300. There's less room for error with a fast set up. However, for one shot at unknow yardage, the faster bow has the edge with its flatter trajectory. My personal hunting rig is set to shoot no faster than 275 fps. Everything works well for me at this speed, a fairly flat trajectory, good broadhead flight and good accuracy. Practice makes perfect.

markj 06-03-2007 11:00 PM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Hey Maaaaatttttttt. Hey Riiiicccckkkkk.

Can ya'll shoot 2" groups at 60 yds......consistently?

I am seriously asking this. I've just never seen anyone who could do it. I shoot 60 yds and.....honestly.....I think hitting my 8-ring is a pretty good shot from that distance.

I shoot indoor 3D tournaments from 43yds and in. I finished 2nd, 1st and 2nd, this Spring.....and I haven't seen anyone shoot like that. NOBODY.

Come to think of it......How big is the scoring area of the BUCKMASTERS tournaments? I've seen those guys miss it......and I'm guessing it's at LEAST 6" square. (I've gone to the last 2 tournaments)

Are there REALLY guys who can shoot like that?
Anybody? 2" groups at 60 yds consistently?

Filma continuous unedited video of you doing it, shoot on camera and walk to the target,and I will think of something real nice to give you. Like a self-funded sponsorship. I am serious. If I can find someone that good we will both be very happy.

I have heard this from guys foryears, shot with them, and they always have an "off day".

W.T.F. 06-04-2007 06:39 AM

RE: is it hard to shoot a very fast bow
 
I shoot at 60 yds everyday and yes I can shoot a 2" group from 60, I have done it many times. but to do it consistantly is something most pros wish they could do. I am able to hit a 4" or 5" group pretty consistant but will still get that flyer every now and then. when you get a flyer at 20 yards it hits the 8 ring when you get one at 60 it misses by 10" or more. I dont doubt that there are guys that can do, especially some of the F.I.T.A. shooters. I just havent seen it done.


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