What do you do with the deer when it is warm?
#22
I don't have time anymore. I travel so much and I'm on the go. It's too much trouble. I've also found myself eating less red meat in the last few years. 5 years ago I would eat steak every night. Now very little. In fact, I ate prime rib for the first time in I don't know how long. I guess I've been eating my seafood. If I lived on the coast, I would shoot a few for crab pots. Steamed Blue Crabs beats deer any day of the week. Second place I would give to lobster.
But I still like shooting deer with my bow![8D]
But I still like shooting deer with my bow![8D]
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I don't have time anymore. I travel so much and I'm on the go. It's too much trouble. I've also found myself eating less red meat in the last few years. 5 years ago I would eat steak every night. Now very little. In fact, I ate prime rib for the first time in I don't know how long. I guess I've been eating my seafood. If I lived on the coast, I would shoot a few for crab pots. Steamed Blue Crabs beats deer any day of the week. Second place I would give to lobster.
But I still like shooting deer with my bow![8D]
I don't have time anymore. I travel so much and I'm on the go. It's too much trouble. I've also found myself eating less red meat in the last few years. 5 years ago I would eat steak every night. Now very little. In fact, I ate prime rib for the first time in I don't know how long. I guess I've been eating my seafood. If I lived on the coast, I would shoot a few for crab pots. Steamed Blue Crabs beats deer any day of the week. Second place I would give to lobster.
But I still like shooting deer with my bow![8D]
Just playin'

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With all due respect, that is an oldwives tale .... If I have to butcher a deer right away, I butcher the deer right away ... I have never noticed a bad taste form one I have processed immediately ..... I do like to hang my deer if the conditions are right though ....
With all due respect, that is an oldwives tale .... If I have to butcher a deer right away, I butcher the deer right away ... I have never noticed a bad taste form one I have processed immediately ..... I do like to hang my deer if the conditions are right though ....
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So all of the packing houses and the placese my families resturaunt gets cow and wild game are wasting their time ageing the meet????????????????????????
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
With all due respect, that is an oldwives tale .... If I have to butcher a deer right away, I butcher the deer right away ... I have never noticed a bad taste form one I have processed immediately ..... I do like to hang my deer if the conditions are right though ....
With all due respect, that is an oldwives tale .... If I have to butcher a deer right away, I butcher the deer right away ... I have never noticed a bad taste form one I have processed immediately ..... I do like to hang my deer if the conditions are right though ....
hall .... did you know that in the old days and in some places even today, they will hang meat until it molds ..... cut away the mold and you have one tender piece of meat .....
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Here's some good info for ya ....
The nearly lost art of the great steak
Once upon a time you could go to your corner butcher and buy an aged USDA prime cut of beef. If you have had a good, aged steak, you know it is more tender and flavorful than what you typically buy in the store. The reason for this is that aging allows natural enzymes to breakdown the hard connective tissue in meats and for water to evaporate away concentrating the flavor.
Dry Aging
The old method of aging meat in known as dry aging. Dry aging is done by hanging meat in a controlled, closely watched, refrigerated environment. The temperature needs to stay between 36 degrees F and freezing. Too warm and the meat will spoil, too cold and it will freeze, stopping the aging process. You also need a humidity of about 85% to reduce water loss and to control bacteria and you need a constant flow of air all around the meat, which means it need to be hanging in a ventilated space. The last and most important ingredient in this process is an experienced butcher to keep a close eye on the aging meat.
There are many reasons that butchers don’t typically age meat these days. First of all the cost of aged beef can be very high. Because of the weight loss of aged beef, the price per pound can be pretty outrageous. If you add in the time, storage space, refrigeration, labor that price just keeps moving up. For aging to properly improve the quality of a cut of meat, it should contain substantial marbling. This means that there is fat evenly distributed throughout the meat. Only the highest grades have this kind of marbling and make aging worthwhile. (there is no marbling in deer)
Because of the high price and the space necessary to age meat, dry aging has become very rare. Actually only a few of the finest restaurants buy aged beef. Many in fact, have taken to aging their own beef.
Wet Aging
The less expensive alternative to dry aging is called wet aging. Meat is shipped from packing plants to butchers in vacuum packaging. Butchers can set this packed meat aside in their refrigerators and allow them to age. Since the meat is packed in it’s own juices the enzymes will breakdown the connective tissues and make it more tender. However, because there will be no fluid loss the concentration of flavor that you get from dry aging won’t happen.
So why not save yourself some money, and age your own beef? Take that vacuum packed primal cut (from which market cuts are taken) from the butcher and put it in the refrigerator for 2 weeks and you’ll have a really tender piece of meat, right? No. Aging needs to be done and precise temperatures under controlled circumstances.
zSB(3,3)
[/align][/align]The average family refrigerator just doesn’t have what it takes to properly age beef. It is very easy to get a good colony of bacteria going in that meat during the couple of weeks it takes to age a piece of beef.
Worse still is this recipe for a trip to the hospital that’s been floating around the Internet. Take your prime or choice steaks, unwrap them, rinse with cold water, wrap in a clean kitchen towel and place on the coldest shelf of your refrigerator. Every day for 2 weeks take the steaks out and change the towel. At this point you are promised a fantastic steak, provided you live though the digestive process after eating it.
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The nearly lost art of the great steak
Once upon a time you could go to your corner butcher and buy an aged USDA prime cut of beef. If you have had a good, aged steak, you know it is more tender and flavorful than what you typically buy in the store. The reason for this is that aging allows natural enzymes to breakdown the hard connective tissue in meats and for water to evaporate away concentrating the flavor.
Dry Aging
The old method of aging meat in known as dry aging. Dry aging is done by hanging meat in a controlled, closely watched, refrigerated environment. The temperature needs to stay between 36 degrees F and freezing. Too warm and the meat will spoil, too cold and it will freeze, stopping the aging process. You also need a humidity of about 85% to reduce water loss and to control bacteria and you need a constant flow of air all around the meat, which means it need to be hanging in a ventilated space. The last and most important ingredient in this process is an experienced butcher to keep a close eye on the aging meat.
There are many reasons that butchers don’t typically age meat these days. First of all the cost of aged beef can be very high. Because of the weight loss of aged beef, the price per pound can be pretty outrageous. If you add in the time, storage space, refrigeration, labor that price just keeps moving up. For aging to properly improve the quality of a cut of meat, it should contain substantial marbling. This means that there is fat evenly distributed throughout the meat. Only the highest grades have this kind of marbling and make aging worthwhile. (there is no marbling in deer)
Because of the high price and the space necessary to age meat, dry aging has become very rare. Actually only a few of the finest restaurants buy aged beef. Many in fact, have taken to aging their own beef.
Wet Aging
The less expensive alternative to dry aging is called wet aging. Meat is shipped from packing plants to butchers in vacuum packaging. Butchers can set this packed meat aside in their refrigerators and allow them to age. Since the meat is packed in it’s own juices the enzymes will breakdown the connective tissues and make it more tender. However, because there will be no fluid loss the concentration of flavor that you get from dry aging won’t happen.
So why not save yourself some money, and age your own beef? Take that vacuum packed primal cut (from which market cuts are taken) from the butcher and put it in the refrigerator for 2 weeks and you’ll have a really tender piece of meat, right? No. Aging needs to be done and precise temperatures under controlled circumstances.
zSB(3,3)
[/align][/align]The average family refrigerator just doesn’t have what it takes to properly age beef. It is very easy to get a good colony of bacteria going in that meat during the couple of weeks it takes to age a piece of beef.
Worse still is this recipe for a trip to the hospital that’s been floating around the Internet. Take your prime or choice steaks, unwrap them, rinse with cold water, wrap in a clean kitchen towel and place on the coldest shelf of your refrigerator. Every day for 2 weeks take the steaks out and change the towel. At this point you are promised a fantastic steak, provided you live though the digestive process after eating it.
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#28
Use the gutless quartering method, it takes 10 minutes to do a deer including the backstraps and tenderloins. Take any working older/extra fridge, remove the racks, stack the "quarters" upright in it and put a couple towels in the bottom to soak up anyblood. I have had to do this in the past with early season archery elk and deer. (90 + temps) You'd be surprised what you can stack in an oldfridge like thatif you have no other choice and dont want to lose your venison.
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Quarter it up an put it in a freezer.
Quarter it up an put it in a freezer.


