Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
04-13-2007 | 12:28 PM
#51
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: Outdoor writer
I guess your reading comprehension skills are taking a day off?
ORIGINAL: burbaust99
Excuse me, but I do believe there are some things more important than tagging a buck. Family should come before anything, period.
ORIGINAL: Outdoor writer
It is all about priorities and I am not talking about or suggesting that anyone put hunting before family like has been hinted. I am also not saying that not killing big bucks makes anyone less of a deer hunter but quit making excuses for another hunters big buck success or your own lack thereof.
It is all about priorities and I am not talking about or suggesting that anyone put hunting before family like has been hinted. I am also not saying that not killing big bucks makes anyone less of a deer hunter but quit making excuses for another hunters big buck success or your own lack thereof.
04-13-2007 | 12:33 PM
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
My truck has 115,000 miles on it and is a 99'. I don't own a boat, camper, rolex or deer farm. My house is almost 40 yrs old. I live within my means but to do that I have to have a JOB. I don't see where I am bad mouthing anyone or making any excuses. You seem to be the one bad mouthing those that won't quit their job to hunt "trophys" or ignore their children so they can spend more time hunting. How can you say that it is BS when I say I need to devote time to my job and my family? You know, I liked your book I just said it didn't really address my real world and now you seem to have your panties in a knot. Well Don, unlike you I prefer to raise my children and not leave that up to their mother or someone else. Now go and blow your "real world desire" smoke up someone else's ass.
My truck has 115,000 miles on it and is a 99'. I don't own a boat, camper, rolex or deer farm. My house is almost 40 yrs old. I live within my means but to do that I have to have a JOB. I don't see where I am bad mouthing anyone or making any excuses. You seem to be the one bad mouthing those that won't quit their job to hunt "trophys" or ignore their children so they can spend more time hunting. How can you say that it is BS when I say I need to devote time to my job and my family? You know, I liked your book I just said it didn't really address my real world and now you seem to have your panties in a knot. Well Don, unlike you I prefer to raise my children and not leave that up to their mother or someone else. Now go and blow your "real world desire" smoke up someone else's ass.
04-13-2007 | 12:34 PM
#53
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Guys I don't believe anyone is telling you to sacrifice Family or Job. Here are some things I do.
I don't go out with the guys... Ever
I do not eat out, maybe once every months
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I stop playing golf, maybe 3 times a year now, instead of the 3 times a week I use to play.
There are pile more things I do also, but none effect my family life.
I don't spend 1 min less with my family than I did before, I just have shifted my free time Priorties. That is all he is talking about in his book.
Nobody, I mean nobody takes care of my kids, but me and my wife
Guys I don't believe anyone is telling you to sacrifice Family or Job. Here are some things I do.
I don't go out with the guys... Ever
I do not eat out, maybe once every months
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I stop playing golf, maybe 3 times a year now, instead of the 3 times a week I use to play.
There are pile more things I do also, but none effect my family life.
I don't spend 1 min less with my family than I did before, I just have shifted my free time Priorties. That is all he is talking about in his book.
Nobody, I mean nobody takes care of my kids, but me and my wife
04-13-2007 | 12:38 PM
#54
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: Outdoor writer
Hey Bruce, nice to meet you. I didnt realize that you live in my house and are so familiar with my family relationships, job status and bank account. I guess my generalized statement hit a little too close to home. Sorry, it really wasnt meant that way. I was just trying to make a point about how each of us has different priorities once we get past the OBVIOUS ONE OF OUR FAMILIES. I didnt realize that you had given up all other interests BESIDES YOUR FAMILYto hunt.AGAIN, MY WAY ISNT THE ONLY WAY OR THE RIGHT WAY, WE ALL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. MY CHOICES DONT MAKE ME ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN YOURS MAKES YOU. JUST QUIT MAKING EXCUSES WHEN IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE EACH GOING TO GET OUT OF HUNTING WHAT WE PUT INTO IT. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT THEN "GREAT FOR YOU"
Hey Bruce, nice to meet you. I didnt realize that you live in my house and are so familiar with my family relationships, job status and bank account. I guess my generalized statement hit a little too close to home. Sorry, it really wasnt meant that way. I was just trying to make a point about how each of us has different priorities once we get past the OBVIOUS ONE OF OUR FAMILIES. I didnt realize that you had given up all other interests BESIDES YOUR FAMILYto hunt.AGAIN, MY WAY ISNT THE ONLY WAY OR THE RIGHT WAY, WE ALL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. MY CHOICES DONT MAKE ME ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN YOURS MAKES YOU. JUST QUIT MAKING EXCUSES WHEN IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE EACH GOING TO GET OUT OF HUNTING WHAT WE PUT INTO IT. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT THEN "GREAT FOR YOU"
. And I didn't give up all other interests except my family to hunt, I still have an interest in my job and in my house. Oh, I'm sorry those aren't interests, those are excuses . I smell smoke again........
04-13-2007 | 12:41 PM
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
See, thats just it.....I don't go out with the guys or smoke or play golf. If I go out to eat it is with my family. If I have free time, and that is time not spent with family, working on the house, cutting enough firewood for the next winter, time spent in the large garden growing stuff to eat, working around the house, or helping my extended family with their "chores, or working at my job, if I have free time I spend it in the deer woods or preparing for the deer woods (shooting arrows, amintaining gear, etc.) The only way to gain more time is to take away from family, house/garden, or job. To claim I am making excuses and do not have the desire or discipline is BS and I don't appreciate it.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Guys I don't believe anyone is telling you to sacrifice Family or Job. Here are some things I do.
I don't go out with the guys... Ever
I do not eat out, maybe once every months
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I stop playing golf, maybe 3 times a year now, instead of the 3 times a week I use to play.
There are pile more things I do also, but none effect my family life.
I don't spend 1 min less with my family than I did before, I just have shifted my free time Priorties. That is all he is talking about in his book.
Nobody, I mean nobody takes care of my kids, but me and my wife
Guys I don't believe anyone is telling you to sacrifice Family or Job. Here are some things I do.
I don't go out with the guys... Ever
I do not eat out, maybe once every months
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I stop playing golf, maybe 3 times a year now, instead of the 3 times a week I use to play.
There are pile more things I do also, but none effect my family life.
I don't spend 1 min less with my family than I did before, I just have shifted my free time Priorties. That is all he is talking about in his book.
Nobody, I mean nobody takes care of my kids, but me and my wife
I am in the same boat as you
I do not garden[:'(]
04-13-2007 | 12:41 PM
#56
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I am familiar with what you wrote in your book . And I didn't give up all other interests except my family to hunt, I still have an interest in my job and in my house. Oh, I'm sorry those aren't interests, those are excuses . I smell smoke again........
ORIGINAL: Outdoor writer
Hey Bruce, nice to meet you. I didnt realize that you live in my house and are so familiar with my family relationships, job status and bank account. I guess my generalized statement hit a little too close to home. Sorry, it really wasnt meant that way. I was just trying to make a point about how each of us has different priorities once we get past the OBVIOUS ONE OF OUR FAMILIES. I didnt realize that you had given up all other interests BESIDES YOUR FAMILYto hunt.AGAIN, MY WAY ISNT THE ONLY WAY OR THE RIGHT WAY, WE ALL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. MY CHOICES DONT MAKE ME ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN YOURS MAKES YOU. JUST QUIT MAKING EXCUSES WHEN IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE EACH GOING TO GET OUT OF HUNTING WHAT WE PUT INTO IT. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT THEN "GREAT FOR YOU"
Hey Bruce, nice to meet you. I didnt realize that you live in my house and are so familiar with my family relationships, job status and bank account. I guess my generalized statement hit a little too close to home. Sorry, it really wasnt meant that way. I was just trying to make a point about how each of us has different priorities once we get past the OBVIOUS ONE OF OUR FAMILIES. I didnt realize that you had given up all other interests BESIDES YOUR FAMILYto hunt.AGAIN, MY WAY ISNT THE ONLY WAY OR THE RIGHT WAY, WE ALL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. MY CHOICES DONT MAKE ME ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN YOURS MAKES YOU. JUST QUIT MAKING EXCUSES WHEN IN THE LONG RUN WE ARE EACH GOING TO GET OUT OF HUNTING WHAT WE PUT INTO IT. IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT THEN "GREAT FOR YOU"
. And I didn't give up all other interests except my family to hunt, I still have an interest in my job and in my house. Oh, I'm sorry those aren't interests, those are excuses . I smell smoke again........
04-13-2007 | 12:53 PM
#58
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I don't believe I said that.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Saying someone puts deer hunting in front of Family is total BS also.
Saying someone puts deer hunting in front of Family is total BS also.
Sometimes it is not about time either. Using the time you have wisley. I hunt as much as you guys, but I try to put the time I have by hunting the "Right Time".
In October when it is 75 degrees I stay home with the family. Desire does not always = time.
04-13-2007 | 12:56 PM
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: Outdoor writer
Oh yeah, Don - I heard all about that outbreak in Iowa and how hard it was on the deer. The crazy thing is though that there are reports of huge herds of mature bucks swimming the Mississippi River from Illinois to get into Iowa. I guess they all heard about the greener pastures and less competition for does. Anyway I will be applying for Iowa this year, think you and Sarah can find a place for me to bunk? ...... in Iowa that is, I know you will probably tell me to stay in Illinois!! :^)
Oh yeah, Don - I heard all about that outbreak in Iowa and how hard it was on the deer. The crazy thing is though that there are reports of huge herds of mature bucks swimming the Mississippi River from Illinois to get into Iowa. I guess they all heard about the greener pastures and less competition for does. Anyway I will be applying for Iowa this year, think you and Sarah can find a place for me to bunk? ...... in Iowa that is, I know you will probably tell me to stay in Illinois!! :^)
04-13-2007 | 12:59 PM
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Saying "having some else raise your kids or their mother" means what than?
Sometimes it is not about time either. Using the time you have wisley. I hunt as much as you guys, but I try to put the time I have by hunting the "Right Time".
In October when it is 75 degrees I stay home with the family. Desire does not always = time.
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
I don't believe I said that.
ORIGINAL: Germ
Saying someone puts deer hunting in front of Family is total BS also.
Saying someone puts deer hunting in front of Family is total BS also.
Sometimes it is not about time either. Using the time you have wisley. I hunt as much as you guys, but I try to put the time I have by hunting the "Right Time".
In October when it is 75 degrees I stay home with the family. Desire does not always = time.
And yes, sometimes it isn't about the amount of time but how you use it. That is why I save my vacation for hunting. Except for the vacation time spent with my family, the rest is used to hunt days that will hopefully be productive.