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with all the bows out there what brand is the most over rated?

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i have a 400dollar pse bow, my friend has a 1k matthews bow, i shoot beter than him

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You forgot Hoyt, which would have been my first vote.
Here is my opinion on overratedness.
1.Bowtech
2.Hoyt
3.Mathews
4.The paper clip bow I just made during study hall. The thing shoots 10fps...that is blazing fast!
Edit: The reason I say Bowtech is this. They didnt actually invent much, if any, of the technology that they use. Darton owns the patent on their cam system as well as a few other aspects of their supposed leading technology.

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I am glad to notice that you did not include Hoyt, as you must have realized that they are simply the best and definitely not a case of hype. ;):D

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Campo,now that study hall's over, it's time for class. [&:]

Darton filed for the patent about 2 weeks before BowTech. Darton DID NOT have a working Binary type cam, just the paperwork. BowTech made the Binary cam work ON A BOW. Who really brought parallel limbs to market? It would seem there was an attempt but, before the Patriot it sure wasn't much in use. Now even martin, who downed the parallel design badly as a recipe for disaster, has them. Have you seen a Guardian or Commander? How many companies have put out a bow over 40" ata, with over 8" brace, that's as fast as the Constitution? Before BowTech! And it should be shootable and quiet. There's more, but you have another class soon. ;)

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Negative, The way I understand itDarton simply patented the name "binary" which has nothing to do with the cam design. Bowtech designed the cams not Darton.

If Darton is such the industry leader in design and engineering and they suposedly own the patents on just about everything having to do with modern compound bows then why aren't they selling more bows than they are?



#1 for me is any bow having a hybrid, or cam and a half system. Of course this has everything to do with the cam system and not the bow itself.

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LMAO at Campo :D

Thanks for the good laugh....... Do me a favor and look at compound bow design previous the Extreme VFT and Patriot VFT's...... Now look at the designs of today by every manufacturer...

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I know everything is regional.......I fully understand that......but I don't know ONE GUY who shoots a Hoyt. I hear the hype......but I don't see them being utilized.

"Over-rated"? Not for me to say......but they certainly are hyped......and they're certainly not doing REALLY good in this area (Admittedly - based on the number of bows 'I' see at the shops I visit and the 3D shoots I've shot in). I've shot the last two year models (Trykon/Vectrix), and I think they're good bows. Not for me.....but they're obviously good products.

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My apologies. I was wrong apparently. I was just using the information that my coach and shop owner gave me. Both are Darton staffers, so I thought they would have the skinny on what was going on.
I still think Bowtech is overrated:D
Ok. Study hall over. Now to teach my students why Bowtech stinks[8D]
Jk jk
Or am I?

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There seems to be distinct cliques everywhere when it comes to bow choice. I belong to 2 local sportsman's clubs... One you see primarily Hoyt. The other is primarily Mathews. I do not think one is overrated or better than the other. It is a decision regarding personal comfort shooting and what feels natural. I shoot a Mathews Switchback XT. One close hunting buddy shoots a Bowtech Tribute. Another shoots a Hoyt Havoctec. We all shoot well and kill game with the bows we have.
I have shotfriends Bowtec, Hoyt, AR, Mathews, PSE, Ross, Parker, etc. They are all good bows. It just depends on what you are comfortable.

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I don't think any of the bows are overrated. A bow that you may think is the greatest thing since popcorn I may think sucks and vice-a-versa. Now if you ask which one is overpriced I'll say all of them.:D

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IMO, the most over-rated bow is a bow that someone will purchase in the hopes of purchasing accuracy, without practicing A-TON!

I've shot many bows over the years and everyone of them has it's own feel. As a bowhunter, you simply need to shoot a bunch and buy the one that feels the best. A bow is a very personal thing and I think way too much emphasis is placed on brands and speed; not enough on "how does this bow fit me".....

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you get what you pay for.

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Not necessarily true...

I think that the Fred Bear line of bows are great bows and are really inexpensive. I think that they are better bows then a lot of other bows similarly priced.

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My opinion: whatever bow you shoot that hits where you are aiming consistently and you are comfortable with is a good bow. names don't mean a thing, cause like alot of things you buy you are only paying for the name.

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This will be an interesting thread!Pass the popcorn

P.S.I shoot a middle of the road old PSE and will be looking at anew bow soon

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If Darton were that great, then we would see them instead of Bowtech.

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One thing Bowtech seems to have no trouble doing is producing new cams almost every year and always including "ADJUSTABLE DRAW LENGTH MODS" which the other makers say compromises speed and effeciency? Ever compare Bowtech speeds with the other guys? Ever compare the draw force curves and do any other manufacturers offer 2 different draw mod options? Bash Bowtech all you want, but show me those features in another comparable bow? If I was a proshop I would rather stock cheap DL mods than draw specific cammed bows, sure helps the inventory and bank line. I voted MAthews because I see the insane prices guys get for them on Ebay and shake my head. People pay almost retail for used bows with no warranty. You don't see that kind of cult like demand for any other used bow. Not saying the Mathews bows aren't excellent, just amazed at what people will give for a used one.

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I got seven Pope and Young bucks that didn't think my Mathews was over rated.

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This post is useless without pics!!! [8D]

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I was at the MN deer and Turkey expo this last weekend, and a dealer that sells Bowtech, Hoyt and Mathews was there letting you shoot all three. I like different aspects of all three, I prefered the drenalin, just because of the smoothness and the weight of the bow (I obviously shoot a mathews so I am sure you will think I am bias). But I am with those of you who say that whatever you are most comfortable with is what is best for you because confidence is more then half the battle.

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I believe the term "over rated" is used out of context in many cases when it comes to bows. Over rated in whose opinion? Remember that we are the end users, andwe determine by market share the "rating". Or do we?
As evidenced by the opinions here everyday ,I can't remember anyonethat was looking for a new bow that REALLY claimed a hands down, no contest ,head and shoulders above the rest Winner in their new bow choice. Most guys here shot at least 3 different brands and several models from each.And I don't think anyone could say that there was a real standout in the "new bow choice" category.
I sold a Mathews SW for a new Diamond Black Ice. Would I say that the B.I. was better than the SW. In some ways "yes" and in some "no".
There are always diehards, but they don't give the other side a fair shake anyway. At least not until their favorite bow line Pi$$e$ them off.
There was alot of "ship jumping" goin' on here this year. And that's a good thing for all of us. It keeps the manufacturer's on thier toes.

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For most people the most over rated bow is the one they didn't drop the big bucks for.

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It always comes down to price..There is a contigency that just will not pay for top equipment be it, Bows, Golf Clubs, Boots and most other things. They can justify their penny pinching by saying "your paying for a name" or "it's over-rated". I have nothing against the comparative shopper or the guy on a budget, but don't diss me just because I splurge on top line equipment for things I'm passionate about.

Don't let your Alligator Arms and deep pockets decide what equipment is best. Try them out and then say honestly.."Man I love the new XXX Bow but I can't afford it right now, so I bought a really nice ..........."

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I think it all depends on the use. Weather its hunting...3-D... 5 spot..... you realy do not need top of the line for hunting, just reliable and good shooting for the hunter. 3-D requires a little faster bow if your yardage eye is not too good........

I will say my accracy went way up with my new bow. Brand??? Price???? Feel???? Not sure, but I know I do not like to shoot two arrow into the same target.

I voted Botech, I have only shot one and YES it was fast! But it did not compare in feel, sound, and shock to my AR.

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After voting I found the current results amusing. :)

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I hear ya, GR8. I've never FELT "duped"!;)

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What does that have to do with the bow? If you swap bows, does that make your buddy the better shooter?

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There should have been an "all of the above" category in the poll. All of the bows are overrated in some form or fashion.

The manufactures will lead you to believe that if you buy their bow, you'll instantly become a better archer and harvest bigger game.

It's just like golf equipment....."if you buy our driver, you'll instantly add 50+ yards to your drives...."

It's all BS. It doesn't matter who makes the equipment as long as you purchase equipment that fits you personally AND is within your skill level.

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Why would you? They are makinf bank on every bow that Bowtech sells. Why go through the hassel of advertising when Bowtech has to pay them for the usage of their patent?
If someone was paying you to do nothing, would you be awfully eager to go overboard with effort.
All I can say is this.
Darton Pro3000: 71#@27"+396gr arrow=301fps.
That is darn fast..faster than any BowCrap I have shot;)

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Haha..nice one campo!

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Hey guys.....I hate to say it.....but that "bowcrap" is faster than anything either one of you is shooting.

And now.....back to your regularly scheduled class env......I mean....bashing.

;)(j/k)

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I guess that makes the Darton "more better" and the deer you shoot more dead than deer shot with other bows.

The best shooters I know don't shoot fast bows. Personally, I don't know of anyone with a "fast" bow (over 300fps) that shoots any better than me. Now that's not to say they don't exist and I'm not saying that I fit into the "best shooter" category, I'm just making a point.

Just because someone drives a corvette, doesn't make them a better driver or make the corvette the best car.

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Amen

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First of all,there is no way you are shooting a darton with a 27" draw length at 301 fps! I would say you are probably shooting 270tops. My buddy has the Guardian and he has a 28" 71lbsand shoots 273fps, i have a pearson Z34 31" 71lbs and I shoot 286fps.Bow tech is fast but that does not help you one bit with hunting. matthews IMP is the most overrated bow for the price they are selling for. I believe the same for hoyt and bowtech, but they are a step above matthews. These three big companies spend millions of dollarson advertising so therefore they brain wash hunters thinking they are the best bow makers. For an example hoyt has the most championships and such, but they also have the best shooters, that is because they are willing to pay more money to get those shooters to make it look like there product is the best. Not to take anything from the bow, but its the truth. You got these other bows that will shoot (IMP) just as good as the big three, like pearson, ross, fred bear... and you won't have to empty your wallet on them. When buying a bow the most important things about the bow is the accessories... make sure you have top of a line accessories.

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Are you not just back from a recent banishment?? Isn't equipment manufacturer bashing/name callingagainst the rules???

hmmmmm ....

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It's ok Carpo. You can't be expected to be any smarter than the info you're fed. You got yours right off the bottom. I really doubt any info you have for us will be any more correct. I suspect your chrono isn't any more correct, either. :eek:[&:]:(

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Opinions are like $#%^!!^'s. Everyone has one.
It makes for good entertainment!

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I shoot a hoyt andlove it. If I bought any other bow...I would probably say I love it as well. I have owned many pse's and I guess you could say I moved on to buy a Hoyt. The Hoyt shot great and fit my draw length, which is 31, grip felt right and shot very fast andaccurate.To Each His Own.

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Let me hear another Amen.