I’ve decided to use a/c/c’s for hunting, this year (at least…for turkeys). I suppose all the hoopla has gotten to me. What is it about these arrows that’s supposed to be so good, though. Right now…..it’s a BIG turn-off that I can’t use my Lumenoks with them.

I've had 3 made up and I've shot them a little on the 3D range. Only difference I know, so far, is they're heavier (about 22 gr.) than the X-Weaves I'm currently using.

Why change? Aren't you happy with the X-weaves? I thought about trying them. I went from ICS Hunters to ACC's after I saw one blow up. Not that that was the only reason. I wanted to try them anyway and that just gave me a push. But the X-weaves seem like they'd be as good as ACC's.

To be honest.....I had a few made up.....just to try.....and I hate to just let 'em sit around (for what they cost). Maybe I'll just make someone a deal....lol.

The a/c/c's are very good arrows with excellent spine and straightness tolerances. Are they better than X-weaves? Yes. Will you notice the difference? Probably not.

LOL, MO.....

If they're better.....I think I just got slammed on!!

The straightness tolerances on the A/C/C's are actually less than theX-weaves.

A/C/C's are a great all around arrow, however a goltip pro hunter is lighter, cheaper, more durable, straighter, and I honestly think the pin nock system is a higher quality component system than the easton system. If lighter isn't a priority for you, then just add more tip weight to get it where you want it and in turn you increase your FOC to come up with more forgiveness with fixed blade heads, windy conditions, etc. I also like the Carbon Express Maxima's as well however they are quite a bit more expensive than pro hunters and don't seem to have any more advantages and I still like pin nocks better than the bulldog collars.

I have spine tested Maxima's, Pro Hunter's, and A/C/C's at the shop on our spine tester and all produced excellent results.......all hadtolerances close enough to produce fantastic groups at distances well outside of any hunting condition.

Well I guess it depends what X-weaves your looking at.

And No GMMAT I wasn't slamming you, I just think that if ones bow is properly tuned to each arrow, they arent going to see a noticeable difference in groups unless they are an excellent archer.

I think he did it AGAIN!!! (lol...just kidding)

I'd be adding about 22gr in arrow weight.....which I could counter by going to a 100gr broadhead (vs. 125gr I use, now). Or....I could rest on the fact I've had my best year ever (3D and Hunting) and stop thinking about changing.

Is there any reason to think about going from the x-weave hunter to the pro series? Is it worth the extra $1 or $2 per arrow?

I am of the opinion that the small diameter will pay off well in penetration. Check out Dr. Ed Ashby's research in Africa on arrow penetration. He found that the shaft drag wasa huge factor. His "shaft drag factor" was used to reduce the penetration potential of an arrow/broadhead combination based on his thousands of shots into African game. His research showed that the arrow smaller than the broadhead ferrule was the best penetration, arrow same size as ferrule was 90% as good, and arrow larger than ferrule was only 60%.

I use ACC's and they're the best arrow I've shot by far. Great tolerances and components and they are a good all around arrow. I use them for 3d and hunting and they perform great.

On the other hand, if the tolerances are the same with the X-Weaves and you're not getting any better benefit why change? It's like going from a top of the line Mercedes to a top of the line BMW just to change names.