OK, folks. Let's see if I can get you guys stirred up a bit. As you know, I'm buying a new bow this year. First time I've ever shopped for a bow. From what I've learned on here, I need a short ATA length because I ground hunt alot. (under cedar trees, kneeling in brush, etc.) I also need a long brace height for stability. My draw length is 30" and my old bow was set at 65lbs pull. I've tried other bows set at 65 and it seemed to be fine. I've got carte blanche from the wife to "spend whatever it takes to make you happy". (God I love that woman!) So, given that criteria, do I buy the Mathews SQ2, the Hoyt Havoctec, or the PSE Firestorm Lite? I haven't handled any of these particular models. I have drawn a Hoyt Magnatec, a Mathews MQ1, and a PSE Team Fitzgerald. It seems as though I would be able to get any one of these customized to my setup as far as draw length, poundage, and let off %. I know of dealers in the area for PSE and Hoyt. I'm searching for a Mathews dealer as well. Well OK boys, let me have it! I know I probably just started a major %^&* storm about bows again, but you guys know more about them than I do.

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I would go with the hoyt. The new line of hoyts that came out this year are AWSOME!!! It's so aggresive I couldn't believe it. But very stable and forgiving. Extreamly fast and the most accurate I've seen in a while. The bow is short but shoots like a longer bow. The best bow I've ever seen. If I had the money, one would be in my truck now.

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Get Serious get a HOYT.

You definetely know how to start something! I've had Hoyt and currently have a SQ 2. It shoots like a longer bow and I LOVE it! It's a personal choice though

What??No mention of the LEGACY?

OOPS! Sorry jsasker, My second choice, but many's first choice

I was looking for something shorter than that. The Legacy is 34" ATA. The SQ2 is 31". The Hoyt Havoctec is 31". And the PSE Firestorm Lite is 30". Brace height is 8.5" for the SQ2, 7.75" for the Havoctec, and 8" for the Firestorm Lite. The IBO ratings are 305fps for the SQ2, 308fps for the Havoctec, and 300fps for the Firestorm Lite. Weight is 3.7lbs. for the SQ2, n/a for the Havoctec, and 3.2lbs. for the Firestorm Lite. See my dilema? They are all about the same specifications. So which one do you prefer?

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Yeah, don't rule out the Razortec either. It is still short enough to be considered a "shortie".... My suggestion, as always, would be the Hoyt. I believe they have the most technologically advanced designs and materials.

I do not think that you could go wrong with any of the choices though.

BBH, Just speaking from my personal trials, I would only consider the SQ 2. Remember this is ME and you should make that determination yourself. I'm 6'2" and at about 240 this bow seems small but, I have a 30 inch draw and the Q2 is the smoothest shooting, forgiving "small" bow that I have tested. I have had a number of "bad luck" incidents with the Hoyts. My hunting partner just had one blow up and he required medicle assistance.
You gotta remember though that these are my experiences. I'm sure there are a number of hunters that have had no problems with the Hoyts and some may have had problems with Matthews.

I am fortunate enough to live 30 miles from Sparta, WI and have picked their brains a number of times. Buy the one your more comfy with, for sure!

What we call short today is too short for me , if I were you I'd look at a q2XL or a protech . You have a 30 inch draw so you could probably sit on your butt and shoot either of those bows , of course thats not proper form . If you want a shorter bow Check a q2 but I believe you'd be happyer with a slightly longer ata to match your longer draw .

We all have different oppinions , if we did'nt the world would be a BORING place