Mark, "get real" is a bit much, don't you think? I realize everything gets edited, I'm saying that's how it"looks" that far away, nothing more.

I'd rather see 100 yard shot kills than 20 yard shot wounded animals, wouldn't you ?

early in - One Shot One Kill is pathetic isn't it ?

lrhuntr who told you bowhunting was about getting close ? Define close ? You do know that archers/bowhunters since the dawn of man have been killing game at 60-100 yards and beyond, right ?

I'm curious where it says its about getting close ? I mean ........ why have a bow that shoots flat and 350 fps and pins out to 70 yards, why even MAKE That stuff ....... if its a 25 yard and closer game ?

hmmmmmmmmm ?


OHbowhntr how many deer are lost, shot and wounded, with 20 yards and closer shots every year ? How do you define what is and isn't an ethical shot ? I'm curious to know .......

Buster. ... just curious as to why you think 100 yard shot in a high wind on a moving deer is NOT a bad idea???

The ends DO NOT justify the means ..... [:-]

Buster, your easily convinced, aren't you?

I'm saying if it is edited and we all say it was then the title says "first kill with X bow" then is it pure advertising andis it real? And not staged? I questionwhen you here someone say 103 103 yards and a pause and cutway to Pete drawing back his bow and taking a shot. It's advertising and nothing more. Must TV shows are reenactments unless you see the shot and the hit in one frame. Real or not it's to sell a product(s). This little videolooks good and nothing more and the shot might have been 103 or might have been 13,that's my take of it.

First off, I wasn't the one taking the shot. The guy who did figured he could make it, he took it.

Second, I can't make that shot, not right now. He obviously thought he could.

Third, he DID make the shot, didn't he ?

If you think you can make the shot, if you're capable of making the shot, and if the shot was taken and made ......... how does that = bad shot ?


Doesn't it ?

I finished a Fred Bear field notes kind of book recently. The man was a heck of a shot - and he missed, and he missed often. He took shots I've been conditioned to believe were bad shots. He took shots I've been conditioned to beleive were "unethical" and "bad". He made some shots, he missed some - he was a bowhunter, nothing more, nothing less when afield.

I think thats been lost somewhat. Nobody likes to wound animals, but the Fact remains, some "good" shots go bad, some "bad" shots end up with a dead animal ......... and that means all we really have are shots, doesn't it ?

I expect each and every bowhunter to take shots they think they can make and are capable of making. This isn't a law, its not a rule - its what I expect of myself, my hunting partners and everyone else. Thats it. Simple. Easy.

I chapped a guy a bit recently on him taking a neck shot on a buck. I didn't tell him it was a "bad" shot........ he thought he could make it, and he did. What I told him was that it wasn't a high percentage shot, taking them all the time would lead to wounded animals, I was pretty confident in saying that.

Same for this guy. 103 yard shots will not be 100% kill shots all the time. Fred Bear taking a 65 yard shot at a world record sheep facing him, and shooting half drawn isn't high success either - but they made those shots because at the time, they thought they could.

'nuff said

Yeah, well ..... my daddy could beat up your daddy [:-]

Now. ..... nuff said

I can pee higher, and farther than you KACHOW!

Ya got me there ... touche'!

Happy endings make me cry.