Don, with all due respect, and I DO respect you,like reading your posts, and your sense of humor, you do seem to have a "not in my back yard" philosophy at times. You think that it's all about $ .... I don't agree. I believe it's all about legislation. IMO

Germ. you may vote no to a resolution or proposition, if in fact it is put forth that way. But laws are happening in the more liberal states that WILL, and I repeat, WILL have a resounding affect in our entire country eventually. I have kids, and by the grace of God, I will have grandchildren one day and if we are not careful to elect the folks that stand for what we believe .... our sport will be doomed ....

[/quote] East coast happenings. Probably also hunter apathy, not enough interest in the bowhunt from locals, so the city hires sharpshooters. Who knows,they still can't hunt on Sundays in some states. West of the Mississippi, different points of view and outlook on everything.
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Hardcorehunter,
There is one common theme with most of your comments, you are just throwing out your opinion or guessing what happens in other states. If you don't know what is goin on in Iowa then why do you even remark about apathy in other states. So are you going to fight the proposal in Iowa or do you not have time or just don't care because you already have too much land to hunt. These remarks are not meant to be insults and they are not my opinion of you, my statements can be backed by statements you have made. Whether they choose contraception or sharpshooters it is a threat to the sport of hunting. All over the country cities are paying $300 to have deer killed and all you say is it must be hunter apathy. Just because you have not gotten involved does not mean that everyone else just sits on their hands.

here is another fact for you
"The latest year data released from the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service shows that there are 14.7 million individuals with a paid, certified hunting license. Caution: Keep in mind that hunting license sales are not a true indication of the number of hunters. Many states offer lifetime licenses while other states do not require youth to carry a license. Therefore license sales are always lower than the actual number of hunters."

"The NSSF estimates that there are 20.6 million active hunters in the United States"

US population 301,113,424

EQUALS 5% OF THE US POPULATION AS LICENSED HUNTERS

Do you think the other 95% pay a lot of taxes?

I respect you too PT. I do care about other states' laws. I lived in Massachusetts for a year and I am aware of a liberal state such as MA. The state wouldn't even allow hunting on Sundays. I couldn't wait to move. If this contraceptive plan was viable, believe me, it would be already in effect in that state. You just about had to pay a tax to go to the restroom in liberal "Taxachussetts". When MA implements a statewide ban on hunting and implements contraceptives for animal population control, I will take more interest in these so called anti-hunting , contraceptive fears. This thread is about IA, and since I am and have been an Iowan most of my entire life, I feel I have a pretty good grasp and comprehension of this topic.

Wow, Slim, its now 5% who are hunters? That is concerning to me if accurate.

This is most likely just a business interest ploy or partnership. I worked on government contracts for years and worked on all sorts of dumb stuff that didn't work and costed millions of dollars because the companythat was dealing with the contractwas headed by some nephew or son-in-law of some governemnt official that wanted to see that particular person profit from something. It can happen...even if it is an extreme cost per deer. There are alot bigger people than the average joe involved somewhere that stands to make alot of money from this and they are continuously lobbying it to the state and will continue to do it for years until it passes or they find another way to make some easy tax dollars.

Slim, this is a story that the antis have put out, or like stated by MO Archer, a company with intersets due to them making the contraceptive,and the state head wildlife bureau is not in favor of it or considering it.. Wildlife experts aren't considering this as the story implies. The "wildlife experts" are animal rights activists, or contraceptive marketers,and that is who the "wildlife experts" are. I guess if I lose my right to hunt here because of contraceptives it will be my own fault.I already pointed out why this WILL never happen. I respect your right to live in fear of the anti-hunting propaganda, I just don't buy it. My right to my opinion, Right?

It will not happen in Iowa--not yet. I also do not think it will happen anywhere else very soon as there is absolutely no contraseptive procedure deleloped yet that is successful in both money(&time) and results other than hunting. Antihunters are a very small % of the population, most people are indifferent, and if they have to pay to control the deer herd- something that is now generating state & business revenue--they will say NO.I am refering to state wide seasons, cities obviously sometimes shell out $s quite willingly
HCH- I have heard the Ames hunts didnt work so well, but some do, Cedar Rapids has had a very successful season. I think it depends on the way DNR and city officials aproach the hunt, earning a buck tag after shooting x number of does was how it was approached in CR, as well as getting more of the community involved with open forums etc. This helped in dispelling any scare stories the antis came up with.

There is a difference between living in fear and doing what you can out of responsibility to our sport in a whole. If it all crashes down one day, you won't have to say .... "man, I never saw it coming" IMO

Good to see you on here Joe. Back in IA now? I agree that these city hunts have been a big success. Ames just wasn't. I agree that letting a person takes a buck after shoot a doe is a reward that could spark some interest. There are some bruisers living in the cities. Anyway, good to see you back here, I always enjoy your post.

Alright HCH I will come to Iowa and shoot a couple city doe's and a buck

Wait is it hunting or shooting, lol