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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:10 AM
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East coast happenings. Probably also hunter apathy, not enough interest in the bowhunt from locals, so the city hires sharpshooters. Who knows,they still can't hunt on Sundays in some states. West of the Mississippi, different points of view and outlook on everything.
Speaking of "Hunter Apathy", Don.....the fact that the above things YOU mention doesn't bother you.....speaks volumes. The NIMBY (not in my back yard) latent pacifist attitude (and I'm not making fun of you, believe me....I'm pointing out something that is going to get worse and worse) is contagious, I'm sorry to say.

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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:16 AM
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I'm just going off of past posts, Don. There are PLENTY of hunters who don't care what happens in other states.....as long as it doesn't affect their season....their quarry.....their state.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:22 AM
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The use of affordable contraception through out the US in order to control deer populations is going to happen no matter what we want. It will eventually make sense, as it will at some point be cost effective, and it will be implemented, not only in Iowa, but all over.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:32 AM
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I'm just going off of past posts, Don. There are PLENTY of hunters who don't care what happens in other states.....as long as it doesn't affect their season....their quarry.....their state.
Not me. I care for all of my fellow hunters.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:42 AM
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The use of affordable contraception through out the US in order to control deer populations is going to happen no matter what we want. It will eventually make sense, as it will at some point be cost effective, and it will be implemented, not only in Iowa, but all over.
How is spending money to implement contraceptives cost effective, compared tohaving hunters pay for deer tags, hunting licenses, taxes on hunting clothing, hunting supplies, guns, bows,motels, food, restaurants, fuel, etc. There are taxes on all of the above from hunters that generate billions of dollars. How does spending money instead of making money, make sense?
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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:47 AM
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Cost effective from the stand point of being affordable enough, in leu of hunting for the majority of the population to get behind. About 80% of our society is either anti-hunting or not interested. Before you jump on my "80%" as well, it may not be the precise number, but clsoe from what I recall.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 08:55 AM
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I won't argue with your #'s RL, I don't know them either. How does the state make up the billions lost in revenue from huntersand how does the state present higher taxes to the already tax burdeoned citizen? Are we going to birth control the raccoons, possums, coyotes, turkeys, and other game to keep their #'s healthy so that disease does not take its' toll and to protect property owners and farmers from property loss and crop damage? Do we put this contraceptive in the entire water system so that all animals are insured a dose?
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Old 02-06-2007 | 09:00 AM
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I won't argue with your #'s RL, I don't know them either. How does the state make up the billions lost in revenue from huntersand how does the state present higher taxes to the already tax burdeoned citizen? Are we going to birth control the raccoons, possums, coyotes, turkeys, and other game to keep their #'s healthy so that disease does not take its' toll and to protect property owners and farmers from property loss and crop damage? Do we put this contraceptive in the entire water system so that all animals are insured a dose?
You make very solid points. Obviously contraception is not realistic now, due to cost and effectiveness, but I was just expressing that when/if contraception becomes "affordable enough" it will get used. Maybe more so in urban areas,where many folkswould prefer not to have hunters/sharp shooters hunting in their neighborhood, but still need to get numbers down.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 09:00 AM
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I won't argue with your #'s RL, I don't know them either. How does the state make up the billions lost in revenue from huntersand how does the state present higher taxes to the already tax burdeoned citizen? Are we going to birth control the raccoons, possums, coyotes, turkeys, and other game to keep their #'s healthy so that disease does not take its' toll and to protect property owners and farmers from property loss and crop damage? Do we put this contraceptive in the entire water system so that all animals are insured a dose?
HCH has some great points, I think RL is correct it will be tried. I think it will fail. I spend a pile of time in my woods, I bet i have not seen every deer.

Like HCH said, someone has to pay for it, I know I will vote no to any new taxes in my area.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 09:06 AM
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I won't argue with your #'s RL, I don't know them either. How does the state make up the billions lost in revenue from huntersand how does the state present higher taxes to the already tax burdeoned citizen? Are we going to birth control the raccoons, possums, coyotes, turkeys, and other game to keep their #'s healthy so that disease does not take its' toll and to protect property owners and farmers from property loss and crop damage? Do we put this contraceptive in the entire water system so that all animals are insured a dose?
You make very solid points. Obviously contraception is not realistic now, due to cost and effectiveness, but I was just expressing that when/if contraception becomes "affordable enough" it will get used. Maybe more so in urban areas,where many folkswould prefer not to have hunters/sharp shooters hunting in their neighborhood, but still need to get numbers down.
I agree RL. We had a city bowhunt here in Ames andbasically no one it participated in it. I had a ton of tags already in my pocket, busy working, and when I do have time to hunt, I like to go to my own landsto hunt. My buddies were in the same boat. Hunter apathy; we just already have our own places to hunt, deer already in the freezer, and lack of free time to help out the city hunt. Yes, I can see cities looking at different methods to control them.
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