Now that right there is funny Davidmil. "dyed" I don't wanna "dye" LOL

Ive bought camo ameristep one at walmart

I buy camo ones to replace the black ones.

Honey, you ain't seen nothing until you've seen one of my restorations of a faded silk garment or one of my guaranteed preserved wedding gowns. I charged twice the going rate and had to stay at night to catch up. I was the only drycleaner that used the same goodies the Smithsonian used to preserve the first ladies dresses. And to think, I used to bust dinks with an M16.[8D]

David I would love to spend a week with you hunting just to hear what all is in your head. Man, you are full of knowledge(among other things) LOL

LT

While you are talking ratchet straps........I hatem. They are noisey, take more time to use, and sometimes a pain to unhook. I prefer the cam lock straps like Lone Wolf and some other companies are starting to use. Oh yeah, I don't like the all black ones either.

There are those that will tell you there's nothing there.[8D] But I do know something about drycleaning. I was a neat freak about gowns and preservation. Before I'd touch them I'd wash and rinse my hands with baking soda and all that. I wouldn't do them until I changed filters, new fluid. No one would touch them except me. I used all the acid free boxes and unbleached muslim wrapsand tissues from the Smithsonian supplier in NY. When I finished it I demanded immediate pick up to remove it from a hostile envioronment of a cleaners or I took it home to the AC area. I had people come a long ways to give me their gowns. Depending on the gown, it might cost you some bucks.[8D]

I too would second the camo ones if you didn't want to spray the old ones. The only two color options I use for my straps are either black or camo. I believe wal-mart sells the camo ones and so does Dicks here in Maryland. I don't think that the black one stand out all that bad. They sure aren't as bad as blue or red.

I haven't noticed it matters. They can't see the red or the blue. The black contrast might be visible. I do use camo ones from wal-mart and they work fine. I replace them every other year. They also work well to tighten up you layered foam targets to get more use out of them and reduce pass-thru's

All good suggestions guys. I believe I may try the grey primer or look around for some TMA certified camo straps. I somehow just do not trust just any Wally world rated straps with my life. Thanks for all the replies guys.

LT